Any thoughts...bad day for the Red Sox.
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Six of the 12 biggest contracts in baseball would be Yankees. Good for baseball? I honestly can't see how.
Costanza must be working on that deal! I would love to see my Yankees get him - oh so sweet baby. 
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There are some "on line" reports that this is about a done deal. A-rod to yanks for soriano and several players to be named. Yanks would assume 16-17 million a year of A-rods contract and the Rangers would "eat" the rest (now that's one heck of a super sized meal).
Apparently A-Rod wants out of Texas so bad he has agreed to move to 3rd base, leave jeter at short and they'll find someone to replace Soriano at 2nd.
to all this I say what's the big deal- my dodgers signed Bubba Trammel. Go dodger blue
Apparently A-Rod wants out of Texas so bad he has agreed to move to 3rd base, leave jeter at short and they'll find someone to replace Soriano at 2nd.
to all this I say what's the big deal- my dodgers signed Bubba Trammel. Go dodger blue
IMO, Rodriguez' contract was bad for baseball, so anything that happens with it/him just magnifies the problem. Losing Arod and still paying out $67 mil? Could Hicks get any dumber? And will the Rangers have any fans left?
And winding up with the Yankees? Wow, that's a shocker.
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From 'Nice Guys Finish Last' by Leo Durocher:
Baseball lives at the center of a never-flagging whirl of irreconcilable opinions.
And winding up with the Yankees? Wow, that's a shocker.
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From 'Nice Guys Finish Last' by Leo Durocher:
Baseball lives at the center of a never-flagging whirl of irreconcilable opinions.
My son is a die hard Yankees fan (traitor) and his response was OH NO!
He's a derrick Jeter fan.
Play every game as if it were your last
He's a derrick Jeter fan.
Play every game as if it were your last
Thankfully we have the Roughriders, Ft Worth Cats, the Texas Collegiate Wood Bat league and of course our own sons to watch because I've lost interest in the Rangers.
How can any team effectively compete with the Yankees since they have ALL THE MONEY!!!
WHERE the HE___ is the commissioner??????
Bud...Open the books first; and, then deal with this issue IMMEDIATELY!!!!
WHERE the HE___ is the commissioner??????
Bud...Open the books first; and, then deal with this issue IMMEDIATELY!!!!
I remember a long time ago when the oakland A's were going to effectively "sell" vida blue to the cincinnati reds, and the commissioner stepped in and vetoed the trade, saying it was bad for baseball. what the texas rangers are effectively doing is selling a-rod to the yankees. it is bad for baseball. the evil empire's annual payroll is now approaching $200 million. come one...and for soriano? what is wrong with baseball is texas.
Tom Hicks is what's wrong with Rangers baseball!
It's DEREK and he is the Yankee captain...he isn't going anywhere...AROD is going to 3rd...Soriano and his strike outs are gone. This may be "bad" for baseball but it is good for the women of NYC....Arod and DJ side by side in pinstripes..the left side of the Yankee infield is going to be HOT.
GO NAVY!!!BEAT army!!!!!
GO NAVY!!!BEAT army!!!!!
Does this mean Arod will
have a new middle name?
*chatroom - evil laugh*
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By the time you learn how to play the game...
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have a new middle name?
*chatroom - evil laugh*
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By the time you learn how to play the game...
You can't play it anymore ~ Frank Howard
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This may be "bad" for baseball but it is good for the women of NYC....Arod and DJ side by side in pinstripes..
Don't listen to all the naysaysers that say this is bad for baseball! It is a great day for baseball! Where would baseball be without the Yankees? in deep gloom my friend. The yanks are the "Michael Jordon of basketball".
Everyone is jealous because the yankees win on the field as well as off the field. You ask yourself this question:
If you could own one franchise in baseball whom would it be? Duhhhhh!
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Originally posted by dadchs24:
I remember a long time ago when the oakland A's were going to effectively "sell" vida blue to the cincinnati reds, and the commissioner stepped in and vetoed the trade, saying it was bad for baseball. what the texas rangers are effectively doing is selling a-rod to the yankees. it is bad for baseball. the evil empire's annual payroll is now approaching $200 million. come one...and for soriano? what is wrong with baseball is texas.
the A's also actually traded joe rudi and a
pitcher, maybe holtzman to the red sox. the
sox were in oakland for a weekend series when
the trade occured so rudi and pitcher were
in sox uniforms and with team for 1 day. commish voided deal. neither played.
Is it rude of me to quote myself? (from the Norteast forum):
Put yourself in A-Rod's shoes. Your friend Derek kids you about the number of world series rings he has. How can you top that? By going to Boston and being a big part of the team that breaks the most famous curse in sports. Winning the series with Boston would be worth more than anything the Yankees could give you. It would be epic.
If I were A-Rod I would try really hard to get to Boston.
Put yourself in A-Rod's shoes. Your friend Derek kids you about the number of world series rings he has. How can you top that? By going to Boston and being a big part of the team that breaks the most famous curse in sports. Winning the series with Boston would be worth more than anything the Yankees could give you. It would be epic.
If I were A-Rod I would try really hard to get to Boston.
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Originally posted by 04CatcherDad:
Is it rude of me to quote myself? (from the Norteast forum):
Put yourself in A-Rod's shoes. Your friend Derek kids you about the number of world series rings he has. How can you top that? By going to Boston and being a big part of the team that breaks the most famous curse in sports. Winning the series with Boston would be worth more than anything the Yankees could give you. It would be epic.
If I were A-Rod I would try really hard to get to Boston.
I will quote myself from the northeast forum:
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If I were A-Rod I would try really hard to get to Boston
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You've got to be kidding.
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Remember, it's a business first!
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I repeat - "It's a great day for baseball".
That's all that's being talked about on every news channel, every bulletin board.
It's great for baseball in general. It's just another bad day for Boston!
Knowledge is Power! Thank you Mavens and HSBBWEB!
That's all that's being talked about on every news channel, every bulletin board.
It's great for baseball in general. It's just another bad day for Boston!
Knowledge is Power! Thank you Mavens and HSBBWEB!
If the Rangers play this right, this trade could be a huge positive for the Rangers!! With the money they are saving BUY SOME PITCHING!! Also now instead of a very,very tense and divided clubhouse there should be unity and they should be loose as a goose as there are no expectations
Alex Rodriguez will go to the Yankees with his fake good guy image,his huge ego,his huge contract,and try his best to become the center of attention on a team that has several players there with huge egos and the need to be top dawg. I predict a TRAIN WRECK in NY. And AROD will be driving the train. As he is all about ARod and nothing else. He stabbed the Mariners and their fans in the back. He is in the process of stabbing the Rangers in the back as we speak!! The Yankees will be the next victim!! He may say he will be happy to move to third and play 2nd fiddle to Jeter but if anybody thinks that attitude will last very long has to be kidding themselves. As soon as Jeter has a slump ARod will start making little comments (chirping)and then the tension will start to grow,it may take a year or more but it will happen. And then BAM!! a train wreck. GOOD LUCK YANKEES!!
Also I WILL pay to see ARod come back to Arlington!!!! I just hope Showalter and his pitching staff are working on a plan of action.. Chin Music in the key of A perhaps!!
Hicks is not dumb!!! He made a deal with ARod that did not work out and he is trying to correct that situation and I believe that he is on the right path to do that. He just sent the Yanks a dose of an incurable disease (egoitis) that will spread through the Yankees and cause them to implode eventually.
Now let's just see what happens with all the money Hicks has now. If he buys a pitcher or two the all of a sudden the Rangers are a good team again and Hicks is a GENIUS. We'll see
Alex Rodriguez will go to the Yankees with his fake good guy image,his huge ego,his huge contract,and try his best to become the center of attention on a team that has several players there with huge egos and the need to be top dawg. I predict a TRAIN WRECK in NY. And AROD will be driving the train. As he is all about ARod and nothing else. He stabbed the Mariners and their fans in the back. He is in the process of stabbing the Rangers in the back as we speak!! The Yankees will be the next victim!! He may say he will be happy to move to third and play 2nd fiddle to Jeter but if anybody thinks that attitude will last very long has to be kidding themselves. As soon as Jeter has a slump ARod will start making little comments (chirping)and then the tension will start to grow,it may take a year or more but it will happen. And then BAM!! a train wreck. GOOD LUCK YANKEES!!
Also I WILL pay to see ARod come back to Arlington!!!! I just hope Showalter and his pitching staff are working on a plan of action.. Chin Music in the key of A perhaps!!
Hicks is not dumb!!! He made a deal with ARod that did not work out and he is trying to correct that situation and I believe that he is on the right path to do that. He just sent the Yanks a dose of an incurable disease (egoitis) that will spread through the Yankees and cause them to implode eventually.
Now let's just see what happens with all the money Hicks has now. If he buys a pitcher or two the all of a sudden the Rangers are a good team again and Hicks is a GENIUS. We'll see
Yawn....
GO NAVY!!!BEAT army!!!!!
GO NAVY!!!BEAT army!!!!!
See there egoitis is already spreading !!!!!!
HotMama has caught a dose of it!!!!!!!!! LOL
HotMama has caught a dose of it!!!!!!!!! LOL
Interesting perspective that Arod 's ego will have trouble fitting into the clubhouse (although Uncle George seems to have tamed Giambi.) Should be interesting to watch it all unfold.
But I still think Hicks is as thick as a bucket of hair. Engaging in a bidding war for Rodriguez pretty much on his own, spending -- what? -- 1/3 of his payroll on one guy who, with TX' pitching staff would have had to drive in/score 7 runs a game to have any hope of winning, making that guy 'captain' and promising the fans he would stay either while or immedietly before entering into talks with the Yankee$ (did he think they wouldn't notice?), and then eating $67 mil to not have the attraction of Arod and to have Mr. What the Heck I'll Swing At Anything? (Three years' of Arod will have cost him over $46 mil a year....yup, that's one canny businessman...)
He may or may not have money to buy pitching, considering his $67 mil debt. If he does, that presupposes there's quality, right-now major league pitching out there to buy (and who would that be?) He'll have to develop pitching over time, and perform now with alienated fans. I'm thinking Arlington will start posting attendance figures that make the Braves' house in the '80's look crowded.
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From 'Nice Guys Finish Last' by Leo Durocher:
Baseball lives at the center of a never-flagging whirl of irreconcilable opinions.
But I still think Hicks is as thick as a bucket of hair. Engaging in a bidding war for Rodriguez pretty much on his own, spending -- what? -- 1/3 of his payroll on one guy who, with TX' pitching staff would have had to drive in/score 7 runs a game to have any hope of winning, making that guy 'captain' and promising the fans he would stay either while or immedietly before entering into talks with the Yankee$ (did he think they wouldn't notice?), and then eating $67 mil to not have the attraction of Arod and to have Mr. What the Heck I'll Swing At Anything? (Three years' of Arod will have cost him over $46 mil a year....yup, that's one canny businessman...)
He may or may not have money to buy pitching, considering his $67 mil debt. If he does, that presupposes there's quality, right-now major league pitching out there to buy (and who would that be?) He'll have to develop pitching over time, and perform now with alienated fans. I'm thinking Arlington will start posting attendance figures that make the Braves' house in the '80's look crowded.
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From 'Nice Guys Finish Last' by Leo Durocher:
Baseball lives at the center of a never-flagging whirl of irreconcilable opinions.
You can say this is good for baseball by being a yankee fan, but even you guys wont like it 4-5 years from now when there IS NO MLB, or maybe they'll keep it, and only have 3- teams in it. How Exciting. Their are 3 people ruining the game of baseball all by themselves. George, Theo, and Cashman. Bud must do somthing about it, or you might as well get rid of about 20 teams. Fans will stop coming to games, except for Boston and New York. Good for baseball? Ha What a laugh
Wait 'til baseball sees the empty seats in Pittsburgh, Detroit, Cleveland, Montreal/Puerto Rico/Mexico City, Colorado, Arizona, Mets, Atlanta, Marlins, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Rangers, Dodgers, Seattle, Anaheim, etc.....
They don't show us their books and they just don't get it.
Hello, engineer, someone is asleep at the switch, hello...hello...hello baseball....
Wait until you see the explosion in Chicago when the Cubs implode in 2004!!!
They don't show us their books and they just don't get it.
Hello, engineer, someone is asleep at the switch, hello...hello...hello baseball....
Wait until you see the explosion in Chicago when the Cubs implode in 2004!!!
It sure must stink to be a Yankee fan -- nothing to look forward to this season 
.... Ah well, in the words of the great coach Jimmy Dugan, 'There's no crying in baseball'. (too bad he didn't say anything about gloating 
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Just saw it's offical A-Rod to the Yanks. Wow, at least I don't have to worry about my Dodgers trading Adrian Beltre to the Bronx. Now there's a relief
Just amazed that mlb and the union couldn't approve a deal when the BoSox were trying to get A-Rod.
Bud Selig is the curse of the Bambino.
Once again, Scott Boras makes 'em all look like idiots and Tom Hicks is certainly the King of the idiots.
Just amazed that mlb and the union couldn't approve a deal when the BoSox were trying to get A-Rod.
Bud Selig is the curse of the Bambino.
Once again, Scott Boras makes 'em all look like idiots and Tom Hicks is certainly the King of the idiots.
Good Bye MLB....Good Bye Bud Selig
Isn't the FLORIDA MARLINS the WORLD CHAMPIONS after barely getting by the Cubs. They had a harder time in the NL playoffs than they had disposing of the YANKEES. Didn't the GIANTS lose to the ANGELS in the 2002 WORLD SERIES? Didn't the ANGELS barely nip the TWINS. Didn't the expansion DIAMONDBACKS win the WORLD SERIES before that. Didn't the MARLINS win their 2nd WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP in 5 or 6 years. Does anyone follow this stuff? Everyone talks about BOSTON like they are one of the super teams. How long has it been again BOSTON fans? Why would the CUBS implode? Don't they have one of the best pitching staffs in baseball? Would the Yankees trade pitching staffs with the Cubs?
Wait a couple years from now, not sure when Prior's contract runs out, but who do you think will be throwing the most money at him when it does? This goes for everyone, non big market teams can only be good for so long, take the A's for example, They have been pretty successful with a low payroll, theyve done a great job bringin up talent through the system. Tejada, Giamabi (Ibelieve) are both gone now, Chavez more then likely will leave at the end of the season, then you have the young pitchers, which they will probably be lucky if they can resign ONE of the big 3. How can they compete for much longer? Bring up great talent, just to have them leave at the prime of thier careers to a bigger market team. I really dont think its possible for MLB to last the way it is now.
Doc...Good point.
But you have to remember last fall...Prior, Wood and Clement all lost...3 in a row after having been up 3-1 against the fish.
That is why I think they will implode. Wood is a bit better than a .500 pitcher; Clement is a .500 pitcher and the Cub offense will make Prior a .500 pitcher. It won't be pretty. Opposing pitchers will pitch around Sammycork in key situations and then face the "dreaded" Alou, Ramirez and Alex Gonzalez...it won't be pretty. Sammycork will hit 50 meaningless hon runz and the bleacher drunks will all be sun-baked by the 6th inning. I just hope the centerfielder doesn't drop dead running from gap-to-gap with Alou and Sammycork on either side of him!
...and, it won't be pretty when Prior loses a few games and the Cubs are out of it in May.
...By the way...I'm a White Sox fan.
But you have to remember last fall...Prior, Wood and Clement all lost...3 in a row after having been up 3-1 against the fish.
That is why I think they will implode. Wood is a bit better than a .500 pitcher; Clement is a .500 pitcher and the Cub offense will make Prior a .500 pitcher. It won't be pretty. Opposing pitchers will pitch around Sammycork in key situations and then face the "dreaded" Alou, Ramirez and Alex Gonzalez...it won't be pretty. Sammycork will hit 50 meaningless hon runz and the bleacher drunks will all be sun-baked by the 6th inning. I just hope the centerfielder doesn't drop dead running from gap-to-gap with Alou and Sammycork on either side of him!
...and, it won't be pretty when Prior loses a few games and the Cubs are out of it in May.
...By the way...I'm a White Sox fan.
MLB is accelerating its headlong plunge into a brick wall. It is now just an owner-agent-player union monopoly game. And with each passing year -there are 1 or 2 less players at the table.
They should just have about 15 teams at this point - the rest is just bs.
Suggestion: Buy some season tickets to a minor league or college team and enjoy the game.
They should just have about 15 teams at this point - the rest is just bs.
Suggestion: Buy some season tickets to a minor league or college team and enjoy the game.
For the BOSOX fans...
I hear the Yanks are now talking 3-way deal to fill the void at 2B which would bring Nomar to the Bronx as he has apparently agreed to shift to 2nd base if traded to the Yankees.
ROFLMAO
"On two legs, Mickey Mantle would have been the greatest ballplayer who ever lived." - Nellie Fox
I hear the Yanks are now talking 3-way deal to fill the void at 2B which would bring Nomar to the Bronx as he has apparently agreed to shift to 2nd base if traded to the Yankees.
ROFLMAO
"On two legs, Mickey Mantle would have been the greatest ballplayer who ever lived." - Nellie Fox
CLD
Now, that's funny....
A thank you, of sorts,
for his off-season treatment?
Turn2Mom just IM'd me that she heard Red Sox fans are throwing themselves into the Harbor...No tea party, to be sure...LOL
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By the time you learn how to play the game...
You can't play it anymore ~ Frank Howard
Now, that's funny....
A thank you, of sorts,
for his off-season treatment?
Turn2Mom just IM'd me that she heard Red Sox fans are throwing themselves into the Harbor...No tea party, to be sure...LOL
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By the time you learn how to play the game...
You can't play it anymore ~ Frank Howard
Why is it that fans of the game are always so ready to predict the professional game's death? It wasn't going to last when it was played by "hooligans and ruffians" over 100 years ago, or after the Black Sox, or through WWII, or in the '60's when ERA's went micro, or because of the strikes & lockouts, or because of steroids, or the expansion dilution, and peroidically because of the Yankees.
There are many reasons to follow the game, and one is because the games are played....and they are beautiful to watch. All 162, not just the post season.
The Arod trade will spark interest in the game, if only because it will swell the ranks of people rooting against the Yankees. There have been eras when the Yankees dominated, there have been eras when they haven't. And when they're on a roll...it sure is fun to watch them get beat.
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From 'Nice Guys Finish Last' by Leo Durocher:
Baseball lives at the center of a never-flagging whirl of irreconcilable opinions.
There are many reasons to follow the game, and one is because the games are played....and they are beautiful to watch. All 162, not just the post season.
The Arod trade will spark interest in the game, if only because it will swell the ranks of people rooting against the Yankees. There have been eras when the Yankees dominated, there have been eras when they haven't. And when they're on a roll...it sure is fun to watch them get beat.
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From 'Nice Guys Finish Last' by Leo Durocher:
Baseball lives at the center of a never-flagging whirl of irreconcilable opinions.
Orlando
You and Doc both make great points.
Arod guarantees nothing.
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By the time you learn how to play the game...
You can't play it anymore ~ Frank Howard
You and Doc both make great points.
Arod guarantees nothing.
______________________________
By the time you learn how to play the game...
You can't play it anymore ~ Frank Howard
They were already the team that everybody either loves or hates; this'll just drive the passion to a higher level.
Individually, tremendously talented and likeable guys.
Collectively: EVIL EMPIRE!!!!!
Individually, tremendously talented and likeable guys.
Collectively: EVIL EMPIRE!!!!!
BB...Which major league baseball are you watching?
Canseco? He beats his wife and girlfriend...enough said about his credibility.
I've been a big fan of BB since his days at ASU.
The way the feds prosecute is really very simple...they indict the mugs who are faced with VERY LONG PRISON TERMS upon conviction...much shorter terms in exchange for their testimony against the "big names"...I'll give you one guess, in my opinion, which big name becomes a federal "target"? Hint: Initials are BB? Any thoughts?
Canseco? He beats his wife and girlfriend...enough said about his credibility.
I've been a big fan of BB since his days at ASU.
The way the feds prosecute is really very simple...they indict the mugs who are faced with VERY LONG PRISON TERMS upon conviction...much shorter terms in exchange for their testimony against the "big names"...I'll give you one guess, in my opinion, which big name becomes a federal "target"? Hint: Initials are BB? Any thoughts?
Ya, but, the TEXANS get Hennsen! lol
The times - they are a changin.
When a major league team can spend 10 times what another team spends for players - its a whole different ballgame.
Nothing will ever kill the game IMO - but there are some more rough times up ahead.
Plus - MLB had a great run - coming back from the strike - with the Hulk "who can ingest the most drugs" contest (McGuire/Sosa) and the Ripken thing.
I think - like anything else - it all works in cycles. MLB has Bud Selig - some serious drug issues around the corner - and now a continuing consolidation of financial power.
Gonna be interesting to watch. Unfortunately - I think the most interesting stuff will be off the field - not on it.
When a major league team can spend 10 times what another team spends for players - its a whole different ballgame.
Nothing will ever kill the game IMO - but there are some more rough times up ahead.
Plus - MLB had a great run - coming back from the strike - with the Hulk "who can ingest the most drugs" contest (McGuire/Sosa) and the Ripken thing.
I think - like anything else - it all works in cycles. MLB has Bud Selig - some serious drug issues around the corner - and now a continuing consolidation of financial power.
Gonna be interesting to watch. Unfortunately - I think the most interesting stuff will be off the field - not on it.
THIS JUST IN....Yanks make Deal for NOMAR will put him at 2B. Now all 3 can be in the allstar game together...
SEE, IT ALWAYS WORKS OUT IN THE LONG RUN~~~
SEE, IT ALWAYS WORKS OUT IN THE LONG RUN~~~
I say its a great day for the Red Sox. Too many egos in NY and not a big enough locker room to hold them all. Boston has the upper hand in the pitching department and if I remember correctly good pitching beats good hitting any day. It will be an interesting year in the AL East.