Audio Clips from announcer

You might want to check the UIL site on this situation... there are definite PA rules in effect.

I'd be very interested in the UIL rules. Someone please post a reference if you could.

It gets pretty aggravating ... seems like they think they have to fill up every void with some sound.
Let's just play BASEBALL!!

Try This...
It does not elaborate to much and appears to be written for F***Ball

http://www.uil.utexas.edu/athletics/pdf/techniques_announ.pdf

Found that one also ... was hoping there'd be something more.

Any PA announcers reading this? Come on guys, let's keep it classy. All we're asking is what good coaches ask of their players ... respect the game! And please remember, it's not about you.

You're painting with a pretty broad brush there. I know several very classy PA announcers -- not all are "rude and offensive". Why don't you volunteer to help? Many are "stuck" there because no one else will do it.

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Originally posted by baseball08dad:
Try This...
It does not elaborate to much and appears to be written for F***Ball

http://www.uil.utexas.edu/athletics/pdf/techniques_announ.pdf

Still applies to baseball...

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Originally posted by Panther Dad:
You're painting with a pretty broad brush there. I know several very classy PA announcers -- not all are "rude and offensive". Why don't you volunteer to help? Many are "stuck" there because no one else will do it.

PD,

I qualified my comment with "some people in the press box" and "some of these are downright rude". I have been to games where they are not offensive but still i question the purpose. it does seem they want to interject themselves into the game. i was at a game last week where they played a audio clip during a pitch. can't say if batter was destracted or not but again, why?

also, i can only speak for our school, but the PA guy protects his territory. no way someone else can "help".

And I can only speak for Plano East -- WHO WANTS THE JOB??? I agree with a number of your points -- it's not about the announcing -- I've learned that over the years. But, many of the people there want to hear the introductions....they don't know all of the kids....especially the opponents. And our players like "walk-up" songs....although we have never been very good at the timing (the dugout is too close to the plate).

In any event, I think announcing can add to the game experience if handled properly.

Yes, the PE announcer has been obnoxious too....in the past.

PD- PDson doesn't tie his shoes so you can play the enitre walk-up song?

It can get out of hand...but less is more in my opinion!!

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Originally posted by UpnIn:
It can get out of hand...but less is more in my opinion!!

... hence the UIL guideline referenced above...

When there is nothing significant to announce, silence is golden.

ok, I have waited long enough. I have to agree with PD on who wants the job.

However, on the other hand, how in the world can this be relative to what's going on, on the field. It is a spectator sport and as usual everyone has an opinion on the topic. but when it comes down to it, isn't complaining about the PA guy a cover up for a deficiency in another area. Like maybe your team isn't winning or your mad at your spouse, maybe you burnt supper?

You've got to be kidding. Going after the PA guy....and his audio clips. Try going down the right field line and enjoying the game with those guys you see down there. Most of the time they aren't jacking their jaw, they are just watching the game and enjoying it out of earshot from the PA guy. Of course that is in by no way meant to be a shot at the beloved PA guy…….but it is an alternative. If everyone got out of the stands who would he have to perform for????

Chastising the PA guy………”now that’s funny”

JAFO...

Nope. I didn't burn dinner. I do take out during baseball season (first things first). Not particularly mad at the spouse -- should I be? Guess I didn't realize that the right field guys were the "good guys", but you can be guaranteed that I will head that way the next game to check it out.

The point is... and continues to be... that there is a time and place for everything. AND, there are UIL rules in place... for a reason. After 15+ years of rec ball/select ball/varsity ball, I'm not that thin-skinned anymore. THAT SAID... I can definitely tell the difference between a class act PA guy (like most are) and a PA guy that gets his own kicks out of heckling from a'far.

As posted on the UIL site:

An announcer should be mature, have good judgment, and be emotionally stable. Many
situations arise that require quick judgment and a cool head.

Mmmmm. That would keep alot of people from being candidates for the job!

It has been my experince that most folks don't really pay attention to what is played until... "Like maybe your team isn't winning".... and then they find everything wrong...I have witnessed this time and time again.

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Originally posted by screwball:
i've read comments about this on here before, but someone please tell me why some people in the press box or announcer station feel compelled to play short audio clips between batters. Some of these are downright rude and offensive. What is the purpose? It seems to me the only purpose is to show how immature the announcer is.

I understand what Screwball is saying, we were at a tournament at an Arlington School this past weekend where the PA announcer was over the line playing drops several times. This was not a game our High School participated in. After a high school player strikes out, he does not need to hear it over the PA, he knows he just failed. Keep the drops positive and stay away from the negative ****.

If you have been to a game where the PA is being misused then you will understand where momandcpa is coming from.

A couple of years ago I started a similar thread on this very topic after returning from a game with one of our biggest rivals. My ears were ringing from the loud music and I was outraged that they played music up until the moment the pitcher was ready to release the ball (of course only when it was our guys out on the field). They played sound bits that would make you go crazy. To be honest it made a great game a very unenjoyable game.

We have been back to that school now for several years and they are no longer operating in this manner and the game is a much more enjoyable experience. The PA now COMPLIMENTS the game it doesn't take over the game so I appauld the UIL for having a guideline and I appreciate those schools that have the class to use their PA's in the appropiate way.

Bottom line if you walk away from a game and all you can remember about the experience is the PA then either

1. it wasn't a very good game and the PA guy was enjoyable.

or

2. the PA was overpowering and it ruined a great game/experience.

link to previous discussion:audio drops/music

Sorry JAFO,

I guess we should all check with you before discussing things on here.

I fairly new and didn't know the rules.

I'll take heat over this statement. No girls allowed down the right field line. Or left field line.

screwball -- you fell right into his trap! Discuss whatever you like while following the board rules. I guess you can tell that injury topics don't go very far. This one lasted longer than I anticipated.

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Originally posted by The Beast:
I'll take heat over this statement. No girls allowed down the right field line. Or left field line.

This space is reserved for when I come up with a witty comment!

EDIT: What OBN says below...

Momandcpa:
I have a comment but will PM it first to see if it is PC or not..................

Maybe some Insight from a player would clear some of this up...

I'll admit, some of the "drops" are very annoying/ degrading, "swing and a miss" for example, but the music is part of the game.

Players from High school to the majors are announced with their, "walk-up song", these songs are used to help pump up the player, and everyone on our team begged for one this year.I think that when you go to a game you should expect the music and the occasional noises with a foul ball, but I don't think some of the drops are particularly appropriate.

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Originally posted by The Beast:
I'll take heat over this statement. No girls allowed down the right field line. Or left field line.

I have to agree.......it would change the dynamics........I retract the down the line suggestion.

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screwball -- you fell right into his trap!

Trap? What trap?

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Originally posted by jesuitbaseball:

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Players from High school to the majors are announced with their, "walk-up song", these songs are used to help pump up the player, and everyone on our team begged for one this year.I think that when you go to a game you should expect the music and the occasional noises with a foul ball, I don't think some of the drops are particularly appropriate..

That's one for our side!

That's the point of the whole PA system discussion... whether it is appropriate or not. Whether it abides by UIL rules. Whether it shows class.

FWIW ... UP until THIS YEAR, I had never witnessed an inappropriate PA announcer!

Just think people by this time tomorrow, we can be discussing district game results. (I hope)

I don't dare go down the right or left field line until I have learned to Scratch and Spit at the same time, until then I will stay up in the bleachers, trading recipes and listening to the PA.

( this should cover the responses I will get on this one)

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Originally posted by The Beast:
I'll take heat over this statement. No girls allowed down the right field line. Or left field line.

Y'all are lucky collikar is in NYC!

Hope Collikar is having fun... tell her to stay away from the Purple Pen Street Vendors on Canal street.

It is killing her to miss the district opener, but she loves this trip...it is her third time to go.

If Keller plays as well as they have been playing, she may be glad she is in NYC tonight.

I will have airport security check her bags for purple pens.

Rumor has it that a few schools may have some openings for a PA announcer...sounds like we might have some good volunteers.

Let's hope everyone got the rain turtles out in the right spots today.

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Originally posted by Panther Dad:
screwball -- you fell right into his trap! Discuss whatever you like while following the board rules. I guess you can tell that injury topics don't go very far. This one lasted longer than I anticipated.

PD,

Didn't fall into it, just being sarcastic. Sometimes i don't have much patience. I am working on it though.

By the way, i know the sound systems vary by field, but even if i were on the right field line i can hear the PA system.

The clips that upset me the other night were played against the other team and we were up big time. Oh yea, I didn't burn dinner and i wasn't upset with the spouse. I just respect the game and the kids playing it.

Also, i know the boys like the music, both between innings and as they come to bat. I enjoy getting an idea of what the kids like in the way of music as well. However, for these kids who work so hard in class, private lessons, practices, games, etc to be insulted by "some" PA guys who have probably never played a game in their life just upsets me.

OBN -

You go, girl! I always thought that S&S referred to shower and shave, but now I know - Spit & Scratch!

Maybe the PA is trying to divert our attention from the S&S!

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However, for these kids who work so hard in class, private lessons, practices, games, etc to be insulted by "some" PA guys who have probably never played a game in their life just upsets me.

Wha wa wa...........Thicken the skin a little. Have you ever heard of home field advantage?

Use it, love it, enjoy it! Parents and their over protection of little Johnny and his feelings. In the real world, life will provide so much more than a sound bite at the inappropriate time. The velveteen carpet is not out in the real world. Do you really want to turn them lose in the imaginary world of make believe?

Could this be an indictment of our entire parental institution? Shelter our children from all the evil in the world and then turn them lose in the real world where they can't cope with the slightest adversity.

I put it to you screwball! Isn't this really an indictment of their constitutional rights?

you have got to be kidding me?

you really want to turn this into a discussion about parenting skills and preparing kids for life?

give me a break! sorry, guess i shouldn't have asked you to "give" me anything!

No, no, no, no. I think personally (to relate this to another thread) that PA guys loosen up the game. While playing a team, the PA guy began to sing (or do his best attempt to sing) Fergalicious (I apologize for any mispellings of the word). Now I want everyone to go listen to that song, and imagine a 30+ year old male trying to... sing (say) those words with the tune playing. Provided plenty of heckling material. There really is no point to this post... (mine).

JAFO -- I really hope your kid's team is able to play tomorrow night......if you get my drift.....and I think you do.

PD, tomorrow night? i didn't get the email on that one.

Dtiger,

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Originally posted by screwball:
you have got to be kidding me?

you really want to turn this into a discussion about parenting skills and preparing kids for life?

give me a break! sorry, guess i shouldn't have asked you to "give" me anything!

hey screwy, i evidently forgot the tounge in cheek moniker. Far be it for me to pass judgement on parenting skills. I still don't have that one figured out.

And if you can't tell it was a joke by the comment of

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I put it to you screwball! Isn't this really an indictment of their constitutional rights?

then you need to take two steps away from the edge of that cliff, because you are way to close for that comment.