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Long Island Rules Baby!!!!!
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Originally posted by SultanofSwat:
Based on PG reports and a recent statewide showcase, there are approx. only 20-25 HS kids (not just Srs) in all divisions in our state that max at 85+.

I see low 80s in 5A for the typical starter.


I am curious about the report you mentioned. Can you tell me how to look it up?

It seems like at showcases and PG tournaments, you start to feel like if you aren't at 89, you arean't worth looking at!!

Ya I think it all depends on your area. I am a freshman and I top out at 74 avg is about 69. The sophmores usually throw high 70s and occasionally reach the 80s the junior throw mid to low 80s anwe've have 2 seniors that throw 90 consecutively and the others seniors throw high to mid 80s im a catcher and the coach clicked every pitcher including me so I know roughly everyone's pitch speed.

 

I have a 10U select team that all throw 90MPH.  No, not really.

 

80 is your average HS Fastball.  I've seen kids throw harder and get hit pretty hard and I've seen kids throw slower that kids just couldn't hit.  I've also seen kids throw 90 that usually ended in a one to two hitter and seen kids throw 75 that got shalacked.  It's always interesting to watch HS pitchers.  Some of them are so good.

This is probably selectively biased toward higher speeds (because generally only better players attend and get measured by PG), but the player profile pages on Perfect Game report where a kid's FB velo stands relative to his class.  According to PG, the average velo for the Class of 2014 is 80 mph; for the Class of 2015 it is 79; and for the Class of 2016 it is 76. I suspect if the pool of players being "averaged" was all HS pitchers instead of the subset of HS pitchers who attend and pitch at a PG event, those numbers would be a tick or two lower across the board.

I think any reported velocity needs to be adjusted down 3-5 mph depending if the parent is the one taking the reading. 

 

My son is a freshman this year and has always thrown hard in league play and actually was the top pitcher (velocity, location, and pitch command) on his travel team.  I have never had his speed gauged but will starting this year or maybe next year to target improvements.  I just hope someone has a reliable radar gun I can use.  

Originally Posted by baseballmania:

I think any reported velocity needs to be adjusted down 3-5 mph depending if the parent is the one taking the reading. 

 

My son is a freshman this year and has always thrown hard in league play and actually was the top pitcher (velocity, location, and pitch command) on his travel team.  I have never had his speed gauged but will starting this year or maybe next year to target improvements.  I just hope someone has a reliable radar gun I can use.  

Alot of phones have a radar app on them.  My kid threw 108 last high school season...i think with growth and stronger arm he will break 115 this year.  Woot!

Originally Posted by monkeyboy:
Originally Posted by baseballmania:

I think any reported velocity needs to be adjusted down 3-5 mph depending if the parent is the one taking the reading. 

 

My son is a freshman this year and has always thrown hard in league play and actually was the top pitcher (velocity, location, and pitch command) on his travel team.  I have never had his speed gauged but will starting this year or maybe next year to target improvements.  I just hope someone has a reliable radar gun I can use.  

Alot of phones have a radar app on them.  My kid threw 108 last high school season...i think with growth and stronger arm he will break 115 this year.  Woot!

My phone app said HS Jr. was @ 99...then I looked again and notice I had my phone up side down.......haha ha.

Last edited by jlaro

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