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After seeing all the teams play this year several times I see the chase for the Battlefield coming down to two teams this year King George and Caroline. I predict King George winning the district championship. The outcome may be different if KG has to play Caroline twice in a row within a day or two. KG only has one good pitcher but several good hitters.They depend solely on Damian Carroll and they cannot go deep into regionals where you need more pitching. I say this because of comments made when Caroline beat KG. Caroline has a more complete team with a staff of good pitchers and any of their players can be absent from a game and still win. The problem with Caroline is their batting. They just don't provide enough run support for their pitchers to make a mistake or two and that will kill them against a team with good pitching and hitting.
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My take, i am with you as far as caroline being a more complete team. But i think KG has other options at pitching when L.Estes is fully healthy. KG has more explosive hitting, but Caroline uses the entire field, the question will come down to defense. I think actually Caroline and Spotsy both are better complete teams than KG and spotsy could make some noise, they fielded well and offense did enough. If you have those teams in the top 3, possibly EV for the four seed and with them in the playoffs anything goes, EV has never lost a playoff game while in the battlefield in 2010 the championship game was cancelled due to lightening and that was the closest they came to losing. So with those probably as the top 4, the playoffs could be interesting. 3 teams go to regionals can any of them make a run?
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Below are my predictions for the Battlefield District tournament.
1. King George
2. Caroline
3. Spotsy
4. Eastern View

Game 1: King George vs. Eastern View (Winner King George).
Game 2: Caroline vs. Spotsy (Winner Caroline).
Game 3: Spotsy vs. Eastern View (Winner Spotsy). Third place game.
Game 4: King George vs. Caroline (Winner King George). Championship game.

So you will have King George, Caroline and Spotsy advancing to the regionals and Eastern View will experience their first two losses in the Battlefield District tournament since joining the district. Of the 3 teams advancing I think Spotsy has the best chance to go the furthest, due to having depth at their pitching, solid defense and good bats.

Listed below are the teams I feel are still playing for the 4th spot. These teams all have to play each other one more time and the one who wins the majority of these games will take the 4th spot. This is provided one of these teams doesn't pull off an upset against one of the top 3 teams, like Chancellor did against Spotsy. Probably the best strategy is to play your ace pitchers in the games when these teams matchup against each other, if possible. I think the 4th place team will probably end up with a record of 6-8 or 7-7. Of the 4 teams below Eastern View might be the favorite, but not by much.

Eastern View
Courtland
Culpeper
Chancellor

Remaining Battlefield District Schedule:
Week 7: April 23rd - 29th
4/24 Eastern View (H)Culpeper ----> Even matchup.
4/27 Chancellor (H) King George -----> King George
4/27 Culpeper (H) Courtland -----> Even matchup.
4/27 Spotsy (H) Caroline -----> Even matchup.
4/27 James Monroe(H) Eastern View -----> Eastern View

Week 8: April 30th - May 6th
5/1 T Eastern View (H) King George -----> King George
5/1 T Courtland (H) Spotsy ------> Spotsy
5/1 T Caroline (H) James Monroe ------> Caroline
5/1 T Culpeper (H) Chancellor ------> Even matchup.
5/3 Th Eastern View (H)Courtland -----> Even matchup.
5/4 F King George (H) Culpeper ------> King George
5/4 F James Monroe(H) Spotsy ------> Spotsy
5/4 F Chancellor (H) Caroline ------> Caroline

Week 9: May 7th - 13th
5/8 T Spotsy (H) King George ------> Even matchup.
5/8 T Courtland (H) Chancellor ------> Even matchup.
5/8 T Caroline (H) Eastern View ------> Caroline
5/8 T Culpeper (H) James Monroe ------> Culpeper
5/10 Th Spotsy (H) Culpeper ------> Spotsy
5/11 F King George (H) Caroline ------> Even matchup.
5/11 F James Monroe(H) Courtland --------> Courtland
5/11 F Chancellor (H) Eastern View -------> Even matchup.

Week 10: May 14th - 20th
5/15 T Courtland (H) King George -------> King George
5/15 T Eastern View (H)Spotsy ------> Spotsy
5/15 T Caroline (H) Culpeper -------> Caroline
5/15 T Chancellor (H) James Monroe -------> Chancellor
5/17 Th Caroline (H) Courtland -------> Caroline
5/18 F James Monroe(H) King George -------> King George
5/18 F Spotsy (H) Chancellor -------> Spotsy
5/18 F Culpeper (H) Eastern View ------> Even matchup.
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KG has more than just Damian. Lex Estes is back in the lineup. Dustin Phillips (3-0) has been rock steady with an ERA of zero. Zack Kegsley and Mark Antos have also seen duty on the hill. Not sure what Damian's ERA is at the moment but it is very low. The team ERA is not much above zero. I think only two earned runs have been allowed to date (Spotsy). KG's defense has been pretty solid as well.

On paper Caroline is probably better suited to make a deep run in the regionals with 4 lefties. But as noted, you also have to have good hitting and Caroline is just getting by.

Unless Chancellor and/or Courtland put some crucial wins together, I see KG, Caroline, Spotsylvania and EV in the district playoffs. Kind of surprised Chancellor won over Spotsylvania.
Fox why are you surprised Chancellor beat Spotsy?

When they played you they only gave up one earned run and you brought Damian in for the last few innings in a close game. If Chancellor can get their bats going they can give most teams a game.

Jason Morgan Pitching Stats against top 3 teams:
King George
Pitched 6IP 8K's 4H's 1BB and 1 Earned Run
Caroline
Pitched 5IP 5K's 5H's 1BB and 1 Earned Run
Spotsy
Pitched 7IP 15K's 7H's 1BB and 3 Earned Runs

Next year Chancellor only loses one player and three of their regular starters not playing this year will be back.
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Outstanding guys my intent was to start some good baseball conversation. Without a son in the hunt I enjoy Battlefield District Baseball. I feel the players are underrated by the NOVA press,Richmond Press, and the colleges recruiters in this state. Again guys great conversation lets keep it going and not just post scores. I think we are in for another great race to the finish.
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I feel the players are underrated by the NOVA press,Richmond Press, and the colleges recruiters in this state. Again guys great conversation lets keep it going and not just post scores. I think we are in for another great race to the finish.


I agree with your underrated statement. Seems that just because the Battlefield District is in a somewhat rural area the players don't get as much attention as the Richmond and Northern Virginia regions.

We're halfway through the district games (pending the EV vs Culpeper results) and it looks like there is two races. One for first between KG and Caroline though Spotsy could very well be back in the mix if either stumbles. The other race will be for the last playoff spot with Courtland, EV, Culpeper and Chancellor fighting for it. I include Chancellor as all it takes is one or two key games won and they're back in the hunt.

Still anything can happen in the last 7 games.
Looking at the remaining schedule it looks like week 9 will determine the district champion. King George has it toughest playing both Spotsy and Caroline that week. King George will be pitching Damian one of those games and Estes or Philips the second game. Caroline plays Eastern View the same week, but has plenty of pitching to match up well against King George and Eastern View. However, if they are facing Damian can they score some runs? Spotsy plays Culpeper in week 9, which is not a sure win, but most likely you will see Josh Ewing pitching the King George game. So you have King George with the most dominating pitcher in the league Damian, Caroline with the best pitching staff and Spotsy the best hitting team with a team batting average over .330. This should be an exciting end of the regular season in the Battlefield District. You have three teams playing for the title and four teams trying to get the last spot in the District tournament.

With Eastern View losing to Culpeper yesterday this opens up the door for the 3 other teams trying to get the 4th spot in the tournament.

6-1....King George
Losses: Caroline
Remaining Schedule: Week 7: Chancellor Week8: Eastern View, Culpeper Week 9:Spotsy, Caroline Week 10: Courtland, James Monroe

6-1....Caroline
Losses: Spotsy
Remaining Schedule: Week 7: Spotsy Week8: Chancellor, James Monroe Week 9: Eastern View King George Week 10: Culpeper, Courtland

5-2....Spotsy
Losses: King George, Chancellor
Remaining Schedule: Week 7: Caroline Week8: Courtland, James Monroe Week 9: King George, Culpeper Week 10: Eastern View, Chancellor

3-4....Eastern View
Losses: Culpeper, King George, Caroline, Spotsy
Remaining Schedule: Week 7: James Monroe Week8: King George, Courtland Week 9: Caroline, Chancellor Week 10: Spotsy, Culpeper

3-4....Courtland
Losses: Caroline, King George, Spotsy, Eastern View
Remaining Schedule: Week 7: Culpeper Week8: Spotsy, Eastern View Week 9: Chancellor, James Monroe Week 10: King George, Caroline

3-4....Culpeper
Losses: Spotsy, Caroline, King George, Courtland
Remaining Schedule: Week 7: Courtland Week8: Chancellor, King George Week 9: James Monroe, Spotsy Week 10: Caroline, Eastern View

2-5....Chancellor
King George, Caroline, Courtland, Culpeper, Eastern View
Remaining Schedule: Week 7: King George Week8: Culpeper, Caroline Week 9: Courtland, Eastern View Week 10: James Monroe, Spotsy
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Good morning. I enjoyed reading the all the posts here. I have been around and watched all the teams in the Battlefield play this year minus JM. I feel you are all right on some level. I will give my thoughts on all the teams I feel have a chance to make a "run" at the tournament.
King George
I feel with the strong arm of Damien that they could win out. However, a week or so ago they played Courtland and he threw 123 or 126 pitches in 6 innings. THAT IS WAY TO MUCH. No young pitcher should ever throw that much especially if he is expecting to be drafted the coach needs to have more concern for his arm. As a whole they have a very good team. They can hit there problem will come when teams realize that they need to crowd the plate on Damien because he lacks control on the inner half. Lex will have to throw well to, I have seen his command be off a little this year so we will really have to get that on track.

Caroline
First off my understanding is that they no longer have their starting short stop (I believe they call him ZZ)due to a off the field/ out of school issue. With that being said they have moved Daig to short and Drapier to the every day 3b position that leaves them with not much speed on the hot corner. Drapier has not shown much of a treat at the plate since taking over the starting position but then again none of the players have shown a treat. I was at there game Friday night against Spotsy. Now I will not make excuses for Caroline's well polished team but the umpires missed several baulks by spotsy pitcher. Caroline can not seem to get the timely hits when needed. With all the speed they have from Carter, Green, Smith, Daig and J. Shifflett and very strong pitching staff from Pico, Beasley, J. Shifflett, Smith and Daig if the bats do come alive WATCH OUT King George and Spotsy.

Spotsy
A well rounded team all together. However my only concern would be their pitching. I have only seen them play twice and both times were when they beat Caroline where they threw the same kid twice. Do they have any more reliable pitching that can come in and shut down teams such as KG and Caroline.

Culpeper
On a role all i have to say pitching will be the issue.
explyrnwscut

Welcome to the discussion!

Regarding Damian - my understanding is the coach usually has a guideline of 100 pitches for Damian. If he's pitching well he may let him go to the end, but if he's struggling he's more apt to pull him as he did tonight against EV. He went 105 or so but his command was not good so coach pulled him in the 6th with a 7-5 lead. Unfortunately Dustin Phillips didn't have good command either and KG surrendered 4 runs to eventually lose 7-9. I agree that Lex and Dustin will have to step up and pitch well. They've struggled at times but have been able to close games out with a good defense behind them.

Caroline - By "ZZ" are you referring to Jeter? I heard an unconfirmed report that it was an issue between Jeter and the coach. Caroline has the best overall pitching staff (Pico, Beaseley, Shiflett, and Smith) but against quality pitching I've haven't read of or seen much hitting. Seems they hit just enough to get the win.

Spotsy - in addition to Ewing, they have Jacob King, the Luttrell brothers and Talley. The early KG/Spotsy game was a close one with KG just edging the Knights by one run. Next week's matchup is critical for both teams.

Culpeper - They've managed to scrap together some wins somehow and are tied for 4th with EV. They could be a contender. Pitching seems to be decent but their defense is suspect.
KG Should win the regular season battlefield as long as they can do well next week ahgainst Spotsy and Caroline. I Still would like to see Lex pitch against a good team. No disrepect to Chancellor but they only have 3 guys who can swing a respectable bat. Dustin Phillips is good if his curve ball is working but only one time through the lineup.
Caroline is deep in pitching for a HS team and will have more stamina in post season play.
I believe that KG has relied to much on Damion's arm may hurt them in the long run.

Spotsy seeem to be getting better as the season goes on I have only seem Ewing pitch so not sure what the other guys look like.
Caroline has to start hitting a little better, there pitching depth give them a hugh advantage though in tournament play.
Rule is Good pitching Beats Good Hitting
Foxdad
Very good insight with Damien's pitch count. I do believe that amlegion was on to something that the consistant high pitch count could come back to hurt them. The only example I can use was Travis Frum (chancellor) last year threw almost every game and when it came to the tournament he was done.

I however did not see EV beating KG last night so that has just opened everything back up again between the top three schools.

No I did some more digging last night "ZZ" is Zach Zelenick. Jeter quit the team. I tried to listen to some parents talking about it. It was over a team rule that the coach has about his hair. If I was a kid that has as much talent as he does I think I could sacrifice a 15 dollar hair cut to play.
Next week should be a awesome week of High School baseball around here with the Top three teams playing.
I didn't see EV beating KG either.
Damion can't be perfect every game.

I watched Frum last year also got less effective as the season went on.
I think Morgan is being over used also and for what.

Losing Zellenick will hurt caroline but Daig will do just fine at SS and Draper is Ok, the more he plays the better he will get.

The whole Jeter thing was a mistake from the get go he should have just stayed in KG. I'm noy going to get into why he's there or not there now but I here he is off to FCS next year.

I am looking forward to Next week also.
Friday night KG is at home against Culpeper see how Lex does.
I do agree with what you said early about Damion's lack of command of the plate. All they have to do is crowd the plate and leave the High stuff alone.
I still think KG wins the district.
Kegley (3b) and Jordan Estes(CF) are in my opinion two of the best players in the Battlefield and they are sophmores.
Amlegion
I agree with you about Jeter he should have stayed in King George. Last year though I know all the coaches spoke very highly of him. He worked hard at every practice and was still supporting the team even though he was not allowed to play. But something else happed this year.

I find it hard that he will get into FCS. I have several friends that went there. Im know the hair will be a big issue there as well. I saw him play this summer and nothing really impressed me with him. He has very good speed but that is about it.
I just dont see bouncing around from school to school just so you can be a starter some where.
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I think Morgan is being over used also and for what


I can think a few other pitchers being "overused." Morgan has started 5 games (of 14) this year, pitched 32.1 innings, and has made 6 appearances. I think that is far from being overused. Add up the innings that the other Aces have thrown and he is on the low end.
Chargerbolt
It has nothing to do with the number of innings they have pitched. It has to do with how many they are throwing in those innings. I know when I saw Morgan throw against Caroline on a Friday night he threw 96 pitches in six innings. He then turned around and threw again on the following Tuesday. That is only three days of rest for a young kid with a bright future. If i am not mistaken he is only a Soph( I could be wrong) His arm is not fully developed yet.

I like the way Caroline uses their pitchers. A starter will only go 3-4 innings unless they are just dominating. Now it does seem like everyone on there team can throw from the bump and maybe that is why the coach can do that down there.

All im saying is when im scouting a kid I dont care how many K's he had or hits he gave up. I want to know how many pitches he threw per inning. There are alot of very young talented arms in this district that are still developing. No kid should ever throw over 25 pitches in a inning. If he has to throw that many pitches something is wrong i.e. no defense, horrible umpire behind the plate( which i have seen on numerous accounts this year)or just poor command of their pitches.
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I think Morgan is being over used also and for what


I just checked the Spotsy website and their two ace pitchers (Josh Ewing 33.1 innings) and (Jacob King 36.2 innings) I guess they are been overused too.

Maybe you can share with us how many innings pitched King George pitchers have, especially Damaian.

Amlegion I don't where you are getting your facts from, but you are way off base on your statement.
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Chargerbolt
It has to do with how many they are throwing in those innings. I know when I saw Morgan throw against Caroline on a Friday night he threw 96 pitches in six innings.


explyrnwscut

You are a 100% correct. He averages 16 pitches an inning. The games vs. Caroline (I had 79 in 5 innings) and Spotsy were the closest by far he has come to 100 pitches. He is effective and he is working on his efficiency; and he is only a Soph.
Wow the pitch count discussion always triggers allot of views. I personally feel you cannot set a standard number out there for every pitcher. A excellent pitcher and baseball player like Damian whom is like no other we have seen in years around here in the Battlefield. I know what I am about to say is from the outside looking in and forgive me if I cross a line. He may be able to go into the hundred plus pitch count more than others. But what concerns me more than pitch count is ample enough rest time and proper arm care afterwards. I feel Damian is being over utilized in to many roles. Starter, closer,everyday fielder and also by the way the every day life of a student athlete. The young man is a stud no doubt about that. But even studs wear down and need time to regenerate. Someone needs to draw a line in the sand and say that he needs to completely rest. Lets not sacrifice a top prospects future for the sake of a win or loss in high school baseball.
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I feel Damian is being over utilized in to many roles. Starter, closer,everyday fielder and also by the way the every day life of a student athlete. The young man is a stud no doubt about that. But even studs wear down and need time to regenerate. Someone needs to draw a line in the sand and say that he needs to completely rest. Lets not sacrifice a top prospects future for the sake of a win or loss in high school baseball.


Hard to avoid in HS baseball. Most HS teams can't or don't carry 25-35 players on the roster. I believe the average is somewhere around 15 - at least in the Battlefield. I only recall seeing one team with 25+ players (Douglas Freeman) but that may have included all the JV players with the varsity.

As to Damian - as I recall, in 14 games, he's played in 13, started as pitcher in 6 (W&L, Spotsy, Courtland, Brooke Point and both EV games) and called on to relieve in 3 (Louisa, both Chancellor games). Keep in mind, Lex Estes was out with an injury for a stretch so coach only had Damian and Dustin Phillips to rely on as experienced pitchers.

My son has played under this coach for three years now and I think he does a decent job in balancing the pitchers. As long as Phillips and Estes step up and pitch well, the coach won't have to rely on Damian so much. He does let them try to work themselves out of any jams they get into. He's usually not too quick with the hook.

I've also had the opportunity to watch Damian since 2004 and see his progression. My son played on the same travel team as Damian. Damian is a pretty tough athlete and he thrives on competition. I agree Damian should get the proper "rest" between pitching outings, but I don't see him not being in the lineup when he's "resting". That's just reality. In a perfect world he'd be out of the lineup when resting, but unfortunately that's not going to happen.
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I wasn't trying to say anything Negative.


Didn't take it negatively at all.

I believe in what the new Chancellor coach is building and safety of his student-athletes takes priority over W/L's.

They have played most everyone tough, just not getting the results; And, all but 1 player come back next year; plus, 5 injured Varsity starters will be back. 4 out of 5 top pitchers are back as well. Non-Baseball injuries have decimated this roster, only 11 active players, with 2 JV call-ups.
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Im hoping to make it to the Caroline vs. Chancellor game tonight. Does anyone know game time and how is the field looking after the rain we have had this week. I remember back in the day that field would turn into a pond with a inch of rain


The game stats at 6:00pm.

I was at the field yesterday and it is in one the best conditions it has been in the last 10 years. The new coaching staff have put a lot of hard work into the field this year and have some major plans over the next few years to make it one of the nicest baseball facilities in the county. It is a baseball field that the Chancellor players are proud to play on.
Carolinedad
I would imagine that he would throw against Caroline since they are fighting for first place right now. But who knows the coach may role him out for a couple innings in both. 2 innings vs spotsy get a lead and pull him then start him again vs caroline. Do you have a son that plays for Caroline?

VirginiaBsblDad
Glad to hear i wish all young ball players had nice fields to play on. There is just something about a field that looks nice that makes you want to play better and protect your home field.
Also heard a rumor through my contacts that the Morgan kid was out for Chancellor can anyone comfirm that. Is it academic problems, arm problem or something else if so would they be throwing their other starter um um Barlow i believe
Lex estes is pitching tonight against Culpeper.
If They are going by rotation then I would say that Damion will pitch against Spotsy.
Spotsy hits better than Caroline
But on any given day who knows
Most of the caroline players know Damion well also
I would try to use everybody a little on Tuesday so everybody is live for friday night.

Having Lex back helps KG and Damion's Arm
Another Thing about resting damion when he is not pitching no HS coach in the world would rest a 5 tool player. Liberty want to make him a dual role player after they saw him hit and run.
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Originally posted by BaseballFreePress:
I feel Damian is being over utilized in to many roles. Starter, closer,everyday fielder and also by the way the every day life of a student athlete. The young man is a stud no doubt about that. But even studs wear down and need time to regenerate. Someone needs to draw a line in the sand and say that he needs to completely rest. Lets not sacrifice a top prospects future for the sake of a win or loss in high school baseball.


Hard to avoid in HS baseball. Most HS teams can't or don't carry 25-35 players on the roster. I believe the average is somewhere around 15 - at least in the Battlefield. I only recall seeing one team with 25+ players (Douglas Freeman) but that may have included all the JV players with the varsity.

As to Damian - as I recall, in 14 games, he's played in 13, started as pitcher in 6 (W&L, Spotsy, Courtland, Brooke Point and both EV games) and called on to relieve in 3 (Louisa, both Chancellor games). Keep in mind, Lex Estes was out with an injury for a stretch so coach only had Damian and Dustin Phillips to rely on as experienced pitchers.

My son has played under this coach for three years now and I think he does a decent job in balancing the pitchers. As long as Phillips and Estes step up and pitch well, the coach won't have to rely on Damian so much. He does let them try to work themselves out of any jams they get into. He's usually not too quick with the hook.

I've also had the opportunity to watch Damian since 2004 and see his progression. My son played on the same travel team as Damian. Damian is a pretty tough athlete and he thrives on competition. I agree Damian should get the proper "rest" between pitching outings, but I don't see him not being in the lineup when he's "resting". That's just reality. In a perfect world he'd be out of the lineup when resting, but unfortunately that's not going to happen.


Its not reality the only games that really matter in HS baseball are district and up to state baseball games. Non district games equal to nothing but a scrimmage. I have personally seen Coach Dow (from Caroline and Patrick Henry before that) sit his better players when they are playing non district teams and less competitive teams. So again someone is saying that KG cannot win any game without that one 5 tool player. That's insane and I know KG as a teams is better than that.
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Not quite sure I understand your first statement. Non-district games do allow a coach to give backup players experience in game situations, but as far as determining district rankings do not factor at all.

Regarding the 5 tool player statment (ie: Damian) - I think the statement was made that no coach will sit a "5 tool player" when he's not pitching. Not that the team can't win without him.
thanks for clarifying that up
KG has a good Team
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Not quite sure I understand your first statement. Non-district games do allow a coach to give backup players experience in game situations, but as far as determining district rankings do not factor at all.

Regarding the 5 tool player statment (ie: Damian) - I think the statement was made that no coach will sit a "5 tool player" when he's not pitching. Not that the team can't win without him.
Can anyone share some insight to some rumors i have heard floating around the battlefield.
Word on the street is that Chancellor and Spotsy will be looking for new head baseball coaches for next year. Rumor has it that Chancellors Head Coach is the Head Basketball coach and he will be concentrating all of his time there. Also Spotsy Coach knows Clemsons head coach and will be leaving to join his staff. If these rumors are true I wonder if Coach Acors will apply for one since he is not coaching anymore after leaving The University of Mary Washington. I know he is a Spotsy Grad so he may apply there.
Did not know if anyone else has heard these rumors
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Can anyone share some insight to some rumors i have heard floating around the battlefield.
Rumor has it that Chancellor's Head Coach is the Head Basketball coach and he will be concentrating all of his time there. Did not know if anyone else has heard these rumors


I am Chancellor's head baseball coach and yes I am also the head basketball coach. I normally do not pay attention to message boards, however, it was brought to my attention that this rumor was put on this board.

With that being said, I am NOT resigning from baseball. I plan to be the head coach for as long as Chancellor wants me. So, please put this one to sleep. Not sure where this started, but, anyone who knows me, knows that when I start something, I finish it. We are in a major rebuilding phase, and I plan to see it through. Thanks.

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