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I really hope that FC wins against Cox.
For one reason and one reason only:

Cox players jumped up and down on those metal benches all game and kicked the backs of the benches with their metal cleats. I can only imagine what those benches in the dugout look like. All dented and pinged with 5 million marks.

If Cox goes and plays at ODU will they be permitted to stand on the benches in the dugout and kick and pound with their metal cleats???? I would certainly hope not, but apparently nobody thought it was a problem at the Landstown field. I'm sure it was just kids supporting their team, are you kidding me??? The parents could just give him those cans filled with rocks!!!!
Cox has done that same annoying thing for years. If they didnt sound like rec ballers it wouldnt be so bad......

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Originally posted by VB Baseball:



datababy.....easy on the name-calling....sounds like things coming from the Cox dug-out....point-proven.....

Kids should cheer their players on. Attempting to distract the opposing pitcher is something that most teams discourage their players from doing. The bench banging and bantor is nothing more than an attempt to distract the opposing pitcher.
Database,

Everyone on this site knows that I didn't play baseball in high school or college.
However, this is one instance that you don't need to know anything about baseball to realize that players in a dugout show absolutely no discipline by jumping up and down on a bench. The players show "no class" or identify with any unwritten rules about appropriate behavior for a baseball player. There may actually be some rule at the high school that addresses damaging property. Kicking the back of a bench with metal cleats, it would appear that perhaps I am not the only idiot.
Thanks for coming on this site and I certainly can't wait for your next bit of comments.
Having been on the state team in 1997 and 1998 you probably had a great career playing baseball at the college level. So my question to you would be this,
Have you ever seen a team jumping up and down and kicking the back of a bench just to make some noise while you were playing?

Lynn Metheny
My glass is half full and I never played baseball!!!
The thing that sets baseball apart from many sports is the tradition, sophistication and decorum the game requires of its players and teams. There is certainly a place in baseball for emotion and team energy, and more leeway is afforded for public displays of emotion at the lower levels of the game with decreasing leeway as one moves up to high school, college and the pros. It is not that the emotion is not there at the higher levels, it is. But the emotion has a certain coolness to it - not unlike a pilot's understatement ("Houston, we have a problem" or Chuck Yeagar reporting that his gauges must be "acting up" when he broke the sound barrier).

Beginning no later than high school, the game requires of its players and teams a certain appreciation of and respect for that decorum. Fans can get away with more enthusiastic and even boorish behavior, but even in the stands, baseball fans often police their own.

The time for shaking coffee cans filled with pennies, blasting boat horns and banging on dugout seats ought to be over by high school.

In a world where hyperventilation is now unfortunately the norm, less is still more in baseball. And that is a very good thing.
Datababy, I also played the game and never acted with such stupid behavior. it is called opening your mouth and cheering or yealling for your batter, not verbally assaulting the pitcher like they do. NO other school in the district acts like the ballplayers from Cox. They have been known to have such a reputation. Other teams know how to win without making little league noise and distractions in the dugout. How does it feel for Cox to constantly sound like their softball team? When will they start doing chants?
haha hey first off I will say sorry for calling you an yankee 1943 an idiot thats wasn't right. However, thats is baseball at this especialy at this level and even at some d3 and d2 schools. I have played D2 and D1 baseball and I'm sure I have been a part off and seen a lot more baseball in my 31 years than most on this site. So I think I have a right to call people out especially when they say "I hope Cox gets beat". I mean I am a cox alum as ECU PIRATE pointed out so kindly. So did you play at ECU or you just a fan? I guess I will change my user name to owlsbaseball*D1* or Ramsbaseball*D2*. Well cant wait to see Cox take it to FC you don't beat Cox three times in one year, that just doesn't happen. Cox has seen Bowman 2 times now and pretty sure these kids are ready to get after it. BUT WE WILL SEE. CANT WAIT FOR THE RESPONCES>>>>>>>>>>>

"Have you ever seen a team jumping up and down and kicking the back of a bench just to make some noise while you were playing"

To answer the question NO.

I'm not sure what game you are talking about. Jumping and down? maybe the cleats on the bench making noise like 16 and 17 years old do YES. thats baseball. What about all these parents screaming at games from Kellam and at the FC game when there was that call in the top 7th at secend base. Thats surly not right?
Feel free to call me an idiot anytime. I saw the jumping and kicking with my own eyes. I am also not one of those parents from Kellam or FC that were yelling because of a call.
But, first and foremost, my Cox graduate, please take a moment to check your spelling and grammar. It is sometimes hard to understand what you mean because of the poor English.
As far as beating Cox, it is obvious, you have not been following Cox very closely since you graduated. Look at the records for most of the mid 2000's and you will see that FC's record against Cox speaks for itself.

It is very shocking to me that Coach Conroy would tolerate the dugout behavior, perhaps he was paying to much attention to the game. My hope is that there will be a behavior change before the next game.
Thanks for your input Datababy, always great to see different opinions and have an open mind.

My glass is still half full.

Lynn Metheny
If you dislike bad behaviour and poor sportsmanship you all should be glad you don't play in the SED. Go to a game at Indian River to see what I mean. They have a PA system like most other schools, but do they have enough respect to play the National Anthem on it, no. Do they have enough class to announce the players on it? No. What they use it for is to play sound effects while the opposing pitcher is on the mound trying to pitch, every pitch. Walk an Indian River player and you hear "The Mexican Hat Dance". Between pitches you hear multiple distracting sound effects. As far as I can see they really use it to distract and intimidate the opposing pitcher only. They don't use it while their pitcher is on the mound. Is this bad taste, yes but it's more. Is it poor sportsmanship, yes but I think it's more. Is it using an outside influence to influence the outcome of the game? Yes, and to me that's cheating, no different than shining a light in the batters eyes. I've lost all respect for the coach and this program.
haha driving and typing is not easy. I didn't know I was being graded. I will try to be better for you mrs. glass half full. lol got to love the **** talking. Just can't wait to see Cox take it to FC and then to OL that should put an end to this? what do you think professor? Then you can grade my pridictions too. Got to go save someone now hope my "grammar" and spelling were ok?

my glass is always half full. datababy
can-o-corn, Not defending the timing and selection of Indian River's music, but Hickory could take some sportsmanship lessons, also. Attended a number of games there in the past month. Don't remember at which games it occurred, but a number of adults and students on the Hickory side were yelling "strike" while the pitch was enroute to the opposing batter or were yelling "swing" in the same situation. I thought those actions were left behind in "little league."
Wow, this is highschool all over again...

You guys are angry because a bunch of kids stomped their cleats? and because a bunch of kids cheer for their team? and because a team uses their OWN pa system to pump their team up? Hmm.. why dont you complain to every sporting venue across the country who uses their PA system biasedly. And in regardess to the so called "unsportsman like conduct", i guarantee there are a whole heck of alot more things this kids can be doing than making a noise that you guys dont like to hear... Sorry this isn't 1943 anymore, get over yourselves. Kids are going to jump, kids are going to scream, kids are going to cheer, and PA controllers are going to continue to play whatever they want.

If you dont like it, dont watch
For the record I have no problem with kids pounding their cleats (although I think it's bush league), both teams can do that if they wish, and I have no problem with fans from both teams cheering (within limits of decentcy), fans are going to do that but I do have a problem with a team using an outside source to try to win games, not to pump up their team but to distract the other team's pitcher, both teams can't do that, only the home team. And Bball you're very preceptive, this is high school.
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I don't think any of us were commenting negatively about jumping, screaming (as long as it is not too negative) and cheering. I'm all for a team supporting its players. I think 1943's comment, in part, was addressed to destruction of public property by the cleats banging into and denting the BACK of metal benches. (They can jump on the ground or concrete.) In these days of NO money for high school sports, I doubt if there would be money to replace destroyed benches. But then, maybe not replacing the benches IS the solution. The visiting team would just have to stand the whole time. Remove the benches.
I apologize, I admit to making my comments purely oput of dislike for Cox. That is not acceptable on here as my opinions and mind should be more open and not disclosed to just "disliking" a team. As far as their actions in the dugout, they are still the only team in the beach I have seen do such stuff. Either team OL plays should make for a good game. I'd prefer to see Cox and OL play again(if OL beats Kellam), though knowing both teams will prob not throw aces and take it easy....which personally, I do not like. If you are not out there to win, then why play? That is the attitude I saw coming from OL on Sat, as if they knew they could lose and would still be in regionals. It disgusts me.


And Datababy, mt screenname refers to that I go to the school....nothing was said about me playing ball there nor does my s/n depict that. Just born and raised a Pirate is all.
Good going 1943....FC can beat COX 3 TIMES...we have a whole team not just BOWMAN. We are not scared and can ignore their immature CHANTING like they do every year. Its called play ball!!!


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Originally posted by 1943 yankees:
Feel free to call me an idiot anytime. I saw the jumping and kicking with my own eyes. I am also not one of those parents from Kellam or FC that were yelling because of a call.
But, first and foremost, my Cox graduate, please take a moment to check your spelling and grammar. It is sometimes hard to understand what you mean because of the poor English.
As far as beating Cox, it is obvious, you have not been following Cox very closely since you graduated. Look at the records for most of the mid 2000's and you will see that FC's record against Cox speaks for itself.

It is very shocking to me that Coach Conroy would tolerate the dugout behavior, perhaps he was paying to much attention to the game. My hope is that there will be a behavior change before the next game.
Thanks for your input Datababy, always great to see different opinions and have an open mind.

My glass is still half full.

Lynn Metheny
All I said in the first post was that I hope Cox loses because of their poor sportsmanship. The point was, it appears that the dugout at Cox is way more interested in distracting the other team, instead of encouraging their own.
In the high school level there are plenty of rules, in fact, I am surprised that some of the umpires don't give more warnings. Funny how a coach would not let their teeball kids jump on the benches but teenagers are permitted. If the benches are dinged, bent and dented because fifteen 180 pound kids are jumping on them, then, yes, perhaps the answer is to have Coach Conroy's baseball fund replace them. Landstown takes great care of their facility, just hard to watch a team have no respect for that field or the game.

I have no intentions of not going to baseball games because of one teams' obnoxious behavior. Yes, it is not 1943, it is 2010 and I for one expect better sportsmanship from a quality baseball program. Maybe that is my mistake.

By the way, if FC really wants to win, I can distract a pitcher better than anyone. Can almost guarantee that while Cox batters are up to bat they will forget to look at Conroy for their signs. Maybe should do it just to make a point!

Just for the record Datababy,
In 2003 FC beat Cox both games regular season
In 2004 FC beat Cox both games regular season
In 2005 FC beat Cox both rsg and beach tourn title
In 2006 FC beat Cox both games regular season

That's like 9 times in a row! So much for your "no hat trick" theory!!

Have a great game each team!!!!
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By the way, if FC really wants to win, I can distract a pitcher better than anyone. Can almost guarantee that while Cox batters are up to bat they will forget to look at Conroy for their signs. Maybe should do it just to make a point!


NO! Please don't break that out '43! And by the way, if I'm Coach Myers and I see that **** going in my dugout during the Region, that would be that last time they are played at ODU.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by no way:
Good going 1943....FC can beat COX 3 TIMES...we have a whole team not just BOWMAN. We are not scared and can ignore their immature CHANTING like they do every year. Its called play ball!!!

no way- You must have VERY selective hearing. I was standing along the LF fence with a very respected "baseball guy" whose son played at FC several years ago and he was appalled at the chanting coming from the FC dugout (while the Cox pitcher was pitching) during the 1st Cox-FC game this year. In fact, he remarked that they sounded like a girls' softball team.

For the record, I don't like the attempts to distract the opposing pitcher anymore than most here, but those that think that type of nonsense is limited to the Cox team really aren't paying attention.
Usually where I stand, I can't hear what the guys are saying in the dugout. I can say that Cox has not been the only team that I have observed showing poor sportsmanship. Watching a coach begin to clap and yell to the batter when the opposing pitcher is in his windup is not cool. It goes on and on.

The difference was that the Cox kids where literally jumping up and down and kicking the bench.

Datababy must still be at practice. Guess he will jump back on here when Conroy lets them go.
I am Back!
Any word on the weather for tonight/tomorrow? I am an FC fan, but am hoping for a good game either way! I saw 2 games this year. The home opener against Bayside, which we lost and the second one was the Landstown game which we should of lost. If we play like those games, Cox will pound us! I am excited to make it out for the semifinals. Good luck to both team, especially the Carolina Blue team
I will apologize to all of the unemployed people on this site and especially to any single moms that are on here. Please consider the source of Datababy.
I can only imagine how a single mom who is trying to raise a teenage boy that is involved in sports would feel by that comment.
Too harsh, absolutely not, I can certainly handle any abuse that you can dish out, but, please keep it to me and don't trash any single mom or unemployed mom. You should be ashamed! You are truly an embarrassment to the Cox program and I would bet most associated with the program would deny knowing you!
Please send me a pm to let me know exactly who you are, unless you are too afraid.
Datababy, it obviously seems that her truthful point about losing to FC 9 times in a row touched a nerve, to make you respond with a comment like that. What makes her have no life, that she gets on here and talks about hs baseball like EVERYONE ELSE? including you....so do you have no life? wanting to live in the past with your cox days? get over yourself you arrogant *****....typical cox attitude...it is funny how FC beats high and mighty cox twice and they STILL talk trash like it never happened....or like it was a fluke.
Cox has been that annoying way for years. FC just gave them a dose of their own medicine. It doesnt feel like a high school baseball game the way they shout like rec ballers. I think teams have learned to play tuneing it out now. They have heard it plenty Smile



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Originally posted by Chris Taylor:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by no way:
Good going 1943....FC can beat COX 3 TIMES...we have a whole team not just BOWMAN. We are not scared and can ignore their immature CHANTING like they do every year. Its called play ball!!!

no way- You must have VERY selective hearing. I was standing along the LF fence with a very respected "baseball guy" whose son played at FC several years ago and he was appalled at the chanting coming from the FC dugout (while the Cox pitcher was pitching) during the 1st Cox-FC game this year. In fact, he remarked that they sounded like a girls' softball team.

For the record, I don't like the attempts to distract the opposing pitcher anymore than most here, but those that think that type of nonsense is limited to the Cox team really aren't paying attention.
I have been waiting a few days to post a responce on my suggestion of who really his best at the beach and I would like to say some responses are just all polical. After all my research I tend to agree with some of "helosir, Vb Baseball and no way. they seem to have a real good feel of true baseball. The best player should play bottom line.As far as the chanting from the cox group which really is annoying who dont hear that from other school programs. They cheer for their teams in a respectable way. the games have been exciting to watch. But I will tell you those FC boys their out to WIN!!!!!!!. As far the Yankee1943 responses I dont think she likes any teams.It seems you always have something negative to say which I as a new comer feel you should tone it down and just keep yourself quiet.
Good luck with that DAKOTA. If you read the posts, you will see that your observation is quite wrong. I would also like to add, that I have been to many beach games over the years, I usually don't say anything at them, and yes, just watch the kids play.

Funny, how this whole issue began on a comment about Cox's behavior. Not about them cheering on their team, about them being totally obnoxious and destructive.

The difference between my post and some of the others is that I have absolutely no bias towards any team or players. Truly don't care which team wins. Just come out to watch baseball and hope to see a good game.

I said many months ago that I thought Kellam would take it all, but they had some setbacks. I then said how much I liked the Bowman kid, etc.
So, when someone who portrays they are from Cox and first calls me an idiot and then smacks about unemployed and single moms, guess that brings out the worst in people. From the messages I received, it would seem that there are alot of folks on here that have opinions about Cox. Personally, I could care less about Cox in and of itself. Though I can remember years ago, players and parents of Conroy getting on here and totally trashing him. I was one of the few that ever stuck up for him.

So, as usual, I will go to most of the games, I will watch, I will enjoy. Hope the rest of you do the same.
Why no posts on the 1st team, where is that Peter Franchise???
Here is a story to show how arrogant and self centered COX is....

I played for Landstown last year, so as a player i helped during the tournament. Tallwood was playing cox and it started to rain, so we had to get out the tarp. Guess who came out of the dugout during a thunderstorm to help us? Not COX. The whole tallwood staff, players and coaches, came out of the dugout and got the tarp on the field quick so the game could resume right after the rain passed. Cox sat in the dugout and watched us work our asses off after we were eliminated , so they could play. Way to show your appreciations arrogant bitches.! Big Grin

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