Mark Ormond.....
There is kind of an unwritten rule here. Don't plug your own kid.....did you notice that people don't do that?
Just reporting what happened in a game. Sorry if that bothers you so, but I have been around youth sports for many years and am a promoter of many kids. Know that about me. I can't read unwritten rules and this one certainly sounds a lot like it is your rule. What other rules do you suggest we all follow here.
I suggest you just get over it!
Best personal regards....and by the way, your real name might tell us more about you. Or should we read something into your pseudonym ~ should it be perhaps, 'Regression to being mean?'
I suggest you just get over it!
Best personal regards....and by the way, your real name might tell us more about you. Or should we read something into your pseudonym ~ should it be perhaps, 'Regression to being mean?'
Mark,
I see absolutely nothing wrong in the post that you made. To me it just appears that you gave a detailed description of what happened in the game and mentioned the players names. I see nothing wrong with that.
I see absolutely nothing wrong in the post that you made. To me it just appears that you gave a detailed description of what happened in the game and mentioned the players names. I see nothing wrong with that.
quote:There is kind of an unwritten rule here. Don't plug your own kid.....
I've been on this site for the nearly 6 years or so of its existence.
Ormond....THERE IS NO SUCH RULE ANYWHERE, WRITTEN OR UNWRITTEN.
As a matter of fact, posts about success that kids have IS ENCOURAGED. Your own son or someone else's son.
Enough sarcasm and cynicism on the boards already.
The only thing discouraged is adults being critical of kids spelling and grammar skills. The reason for that is very simple, i.e., we want kids to participate and post and not be intimidated by someone commenting about their spelling and grammar skills....that is for their teacher to do.
Did anyone see the Tribune Article on the Shaw kid from Harlan? Quite a story and you have to hope for success especially hard for a kid like this.
My son's team played Young this year as they have for a few years and I was quite impressed with some of the talent they had. Makes you wonder how good they could be if they had the resources that our school has. I'm sure the story is the same at other top Public League Baseball Schools. I thought that Young had only one coach on the Varsity level...maybe that was just one day, but if you give them 3 Varsity Coaches and a facility like ours and I'm sure these schools would be competing for State Championships just as some of the Suburban Schools have been on a regular basis, and even more kids from the Public League would get recognition and college oportunities.
It would be great to see some outside sources help with funding if possible. I can't think of a better way to see baseball money spent. I really liked that story on Shaw. How about a showcase by PBR, MVP, White Sox Academy or one of the outfits that runs them with the Public League Baseball Programs benefiting?
My son's team played Young this year as they have for a few years and I was quite impressed with some of the talent they had. Makes you wonder how good they could be if they had the resources that our school has. I'm sure the story is the same at other top Public League Baseball Schools. I thought that Young had only one coach on the Varsity level...maybe that was just one day, but if you give them 3 Varsity Coaches and a facility like ours and I'm sure these schools would be competing for State Championships just as some of the Suburban Schools have been on a regular basis, and even more kids from the Public League would get recognition and college oportunities.
It would be great to see some outside sources help with funding if possible. I can't think of a better way to see baseball money spent. I really liked that story on Shaw. How about a showcase by PBR, MVP, White Sox Academy or one of the outfits that runs them with the Public League Baseball Programs benefiting?
I have been working with economically disadvantaged youth in the city of Chicago for many years. Baseball in the city of Chicago is challenging, but can be done.
The city programs struggle at all levels because of the lack of funding for facilities, coaches, etc.
It is great when the teams from the outlying areas such as Grayslake High School come in to play in the city. It really is a different world. It was very impressive for our Whitney Young players to see the outstanding facilities at Barrington High School several weeks ago. Many of the city kids have never played on fields like are in that kind of a school district. It is both intimidating and impressive to them and lets them know about something beyond what they see every day.
A quote from the May 7, Chicago Sun Times (page 85A) accurately gives some perspective; a Hispanic Girl who plays s****r at Lane Tech and will be attending Loyola University next year.
"There are times when people look at Lane Tech and don't think we can compete.........Certain schools have more........I do not think it is fair that some schools have more. I can't fix that, but I hope that someday people will."
This article in the Sports section is focused on different issues, but once again an improved perspective on many issues will occur when there is more of an exchange between the city schools and the suburban schools.
This is just my opinion; I can only share with you that there is definitely a lot of talent to be developed in the city, but more skilled coaching is surely needed. I think I speak for any of the city teams, we would welcome help from any venue.
The city programs struggle at all levels because of the lack of funding for facilities, coaches, etc.
It is great when the teams from the outlying areas such as Grayslake High School come in to play in the city. It really is a different world. It was very impressive for our Whitney Young players to see the outstanding facilities at Barrington High School several weeks ago. Many of the city kids have never played on fields like are in that kind of a school district. It is both intimidating and impressive to them and lets them know about something beyond what they see every day.
A quote from the May 7, Chicago Sun Times (page 85A) accurately gives some perspective; a Hispanic Girl who plays s****r at Lane Tech and will be attending Loyola University next year.
"There are times when people look at Lane Tech and don't think we can compete.........Certain schools have more........I do not think it is fair that some schools have more. I can't fix that, but I hope that someday people will."
This article in the Sports section is focused on different issues, but once again an improved perspective on many issues will occur when there is more of an exchange between the city schools and the suburban schools.
This is just my opinion; I can only share with you that there is definitely a lot of talent to be developed in the city, but more skilled coaching is surely needed. I think I speak for any of the city teams, we would welcome help from any venue.
Keep up the good work Mark, you are making a differenc for those kids.
Beenthere,
Well said, and I hope you feel the same way about the elders spelling also.lol..
Mark,
I am glad your son had a good day, hopefully many more to follow. If you ever run any camps or anything where you need a old washed up pitching guy, I would be more than willing to give you a couple days of my time. I'll stick Cangelosi in a shoebox and bring him one day too.
Many , not all of those kids just need some direction and role models like you. Good Job!
I learned yesterday that the guys at MVP, provided a place for some of the city kids to work out this past winter. They have a younger team out of the city under their umbrella. Hamlin Park Top Teir, I applaud them for that.
I also saw a couple of their guys chatting in between the games. One from their suburban team and one from the younger city team. Could'nt help but think to myself how good a picture that was. Very different backgrounds, same love of the game...
Well said, and I hope you feel the same way about the elders spelling also.lol..
Mark,
I am glad your son had a good day, hopefully many more to follow. If you ever run any camps or anything where you need a old washed up pitching guy, I would be more than willing to give you a couple days of my time. I'll stick Cangelosi in a shoebox and bring him one day too.
Many , not all of those kids just need some direction and role models like you. Good Job!
I learned yesterday that the guys at MVP, provided a place for some of the city kids to work out this past winter. They have a younger team out of the city under their umbrella. Hamlin Park Top Teir, I applaud them for that.
I also saw a couple of their guys chatting in between the games. One from their suburban team and one from the younger city team. Could'nt help but think to myself how good a picture that was. Very different backgrounds, same love of the game...
Been There,
Thank you for your offer to help. Our two head coaches this summer who are going to be working with our 15-U players are Ted Krga and Ray Ramos. Krga's son, Mike (out of St. Ignatius) was an amateur draft pick several years ago and Ramos' son is cow playing at the University of Missouri. We would welcome having your involvement with any time you might have.
The players are serious about the game and want to learn.
Call me at your convenience 312-922-9556 (office).
Mark
Thank you for your offer to help. Our two head coaches this summer who are going to be working with our 15-U players are Ted Krga and Ray Ramos. Krga's son, Mike (out of St. Ignatius) was an amateur draft pick several years ago and Ramos' son is cow playing at the University of Missouri. We would welcome having your involvement with any time you might have.
The players are serious about the game and want to learn.
Call me at your convenience 312-922-9556 (office).
Mark
Mark Ormond does a great job with the Clubbers of giving kids from all backrounds a first class travel baseball experience. Good fields, great uniforms, introductions,announcers, it makes the kids feel important because they are important. It is about the kids, not the parents. The kids get reat competition, coaching, and an experience that can't be duplicated. It helps them in high school as well.
The biggest challenge in the City of Chicago to playing the game of baseball is gaining access to baseball fields. This is especially true at the high school level. Despite the large park system that exists for the benefit of the city of Chicago residents, the ability to gain access to a baseball field in the city is nearly impossible. There are plenty of players with talent, but the Chicago political and patronage system makes playing America's Game in one of the largest urban areas in the country a scarcity.
The condition of the few regulation baseball fields that do exist in Chicago is also abysmal. Last year I attempted to work with some of the highest officials in the Chicago Park District. A $10,000 payment to the City could have benefitted the development of baseball fields in the City of Chicago, but was struck down by both the Chicago Park District and also by the local alderman. Instead the payment was made to the Illinois Institute of Technology for the use of their baseball field.
Apparently, playing the patronage game is what is required to gain access to having the use of a baseball field. Whether it is for a practice or a game, you do not see many high schoolers playing baseball and the reason is gaining access. Additionally, for a city with two MLB baseball teams their is barely a glimmer of support for the development of any local talent. I have tried appealing to major league baseball, but last year gained the support in the amount of $25K from the Chicago Blackhawks Hockey team. Sure there are the few token things that the Cubs and White Sox might do, but there is nothing that is truly meaningful to support the development of high school talent. The political system is definitely at work in the city that works as the access to the few decent fields that do exist is given to a select few. They are completely off limits unless you are affiliated with a local tavern that is working with an established softball league. So it goes.
Yesterday I met with a highly placed CPS individual, and once again made an overture with substantial financial support for the rights to use a City owned baseball field on an extemely limited basis. It was again no dice. So if you do not have the right connections NO baseball is going to be played on that particular field by any high school age city kids this summer that 'can play' and want to learn the game at an advanced level. I do not get it, but was told that you have to know how to go through the existing system. What exactly does that mean? All that can be seen in the city are baseball games played at the peewee level or junior youth level. Apparently the 'powers that be' do not regard baseball as a game that should be played in the third largest city in America.
The $10K deal stands..........where in Chicago can a team find a regulation baseball field with an elevated pitchers mound for very limited use. I already am using the University of Illinois for a lot of my needs. Is a CPS school interested? Supposedly CPS needs funding. For the record, I do not have any political connections and everything is above board. Anyone have suggestions?
The condition of the few regulation baseball fields that do exist in Chicago is also abysmal. Last year I attempted to work with some of the highest officials in the Chicago Park District. A $10,000 payment to the City could have benefitted the development of baseball fields in the City of Chicago, but was struck down by both the Chicago Park District and also by the local alderman. Instead the payment was made to the Illinois Institute of Technology for the use of their baseball field.
Apparently, playing the patronage game is what is required to gain access to having the use of a baseball field. Whether it is for a practice or a game, you do not see many high schoolers playing baseball and the reason is gaining access. Additionally, for a city with two MLB baseball teams their is barely a glimmer of support for the development of any local talent. I have tried appealing to major league baseball, but last year gained the support in the amount of $25K from the Chicago Blackhawks Hockey team. Sure there are the few token things that the Cubs and White Sox might do, but there is nothing that is truly meaningful to support the development of high school talent. The political system is definitely at work in the city that works as the access to the few decent fields that do exist is given to a select few. They are completely off limits unless you are affiliated with a local tavern that is working with an established softball league. So it goes.
Yesterday I met with a highly placed CPS individual, and once again made an overture with substantial financial support for the rights to use a City owned baseball field on an extemely limited basis. It was again no dice. So if you do not have the right connections NO baseball is going to be played on that particular field by any high school age city kids this summer that 'can play' and want to learn the game at an advanced level. I do not get it, but was told that you have to know how to go through the existing system. What exactly does that mean? All that can be seen in the city are baseball games played at the peewee level or junior youth level. Apparently the 'powers that be' do not regard baseball as a game that should be played in the third largest city in America.
The $10K deal stands..........where in Chicago can a team find a regulation baseball field with an elevated pitchers mound for very limited use. I already am using the University of Illinois for a lot of my needs. Is a CPS school interested? Supposedly CPS needs funding. For the record, I do not have any political connections and everything is above board. Anyone have suggestions?
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Justin Stringer
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Clemente 7 Lane Tech 5- 9 innings
Just what you would expect with this rivalry. Clemente opens with 1, Lane answers with 3, Clemente gets 2 back, Clemente gets 2, Lane ties it with 2 out 2 strikes in the 7th, Clemente gets 2 in the 9th.
A great ballgame to be a part of, great players playing with heart and emotion. This was definitely a playoff-like atmosphere and I’m sure it will help both teams come state. The only thing I wish is that we could do it 2 times this year instead of one. Maybe we can meet on the big stage at the Cell and put on a show for the CPS title.
Justin Stringer
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Just what you would expect with this rivalry. Clemente opens with 1, Lane answers with 3, Clemente gets 2 back, Clemente gets 2, Lane ties it with 2 out 2 strikes in the 7th, Clemente gets 2 in the 9th.
A great ballgame to be a part of, great players playing with heart and emotion. This was definitely a playoff-like atmosphere and I’m sure it will help both teams come state. The only thing I wish is that we could do it 2 times this year instead of one. Maybe we can meet on the big stage at the Cell and put on a show for the CPS title.
Justin Stringer
www.doitrightbaseball.com
HSBASEBALLWEB SPONSOR
It's a shame the way they changed the best division in the CPS.Some bad decision are being made!
Taft is doing some good things lets just hope they dont lose to schurz again like in 97,and 98 GO EAGLES
http://www.suntimes.com/output/prep/cst-spt-taft16.html
http://www.suntimes.com/output/prep/cst-spt-taft16.html
Pildes has been known to come up with some big wins over the years. Taft should not be overlooked in the playofffs.
No disrespect to Taft, but they do not play anyone. It's great that they are 20-0.....but playing Sullivan, Stienmetz, Kelvyn Park, and the likes can make 20-0 very misleading.How many good public league, or suburban league teams have they played?
Saw in the paper where a certain public league team is in thier sights. It's several CPS teams that they need to deal with...not just one! ie..Harlan, Clemente, and Lane.
What notable oppenents has Taft defeated? Can you name two, or maybe just one?
Saw in the paper where a certain public league team is in thier sights. It's several CPS teams that they need to deal with...not just one! ie..Harlan, Clemente, and Lane.
What notable oppenents has Taft defeated? Can you name two, or maybe just one?
quote:Originally posted by baseball8:
Saw in the paper where a certain public league team is in thier sights. It's several CPS teams that they need to deal with...not just one! ie..Harlan, Clemente, and Lane.
They obviously were talking about Lane Tech.
That's great! CPS has more than one good team. By the way, I saw where Clemente beat Lane Yesterday. Things that make you go hmmmmm.
Taft has beaten some teams in the "SUPER CONFERENCE" not just teams in there conference and i believe they will finish off with two more "SUPER CONFERENCE" teams to finish off their season