Congratulations to Menchville

why are u so jealous have u been beaten by indian river.

And there is not only 1 good player on the squad.

Wow. That was by far the most mature comment i have ever seen... Please grow up..

But yes congrats to menchville, they played a great game, as well as IR did. By far one of the most entertaining games i have ever seen.

side note, if there are any menchville fans out there, please grow up. Your crowd was not only hateful, but bush-league and down right childish.
chanting " Dean Ali Sucks ", " IR sucks", or " you guys are bulls***" is down right disgraceful to the game. and to top it all off, i witnessed several Menchville fans climbing the fence behind where IR was leaving the field trying to start a fight.. after talking to some of the IR players, i heard that the Menchville players were for the most part classy, and its a same that fans have to ruin this game we all love so much

I thought both groups of fans were classless. I am not sure which was worse...Menchville chanting "Bull$h!t" or IR telling the ump he "f'ing sucks" while holding infants.

I was very impressed with IR. They played a great game and battled the entire game. Although, they let their emotions get the better of them at the end.

I thought Chrismon threw WAAAY too many breaking balls but he had very good stuff. Poor Menchville defense gave IR 3 runs. BTW, how does Menchville blow 2 squeeze bunts?!?

That is true both groups were bad, but its one thing to yell at umps ( something that is seen at all levels ), but for a WHOLE section of people to chant " Dean Ali sucks " to a HIGHSCHOOL kid is a little bush-league

but back to the game i think that it's unfortunate that the two best teams ended up playing each other in the semi's, not the finals..

Ethan Carter was talking trash when they were up 2-0.

So, you are trying to identify who is "more wrong"? Really? I was on the IR side and heard similar comments directed at Carter and others. Either way, it is uncalled for. And...for a HS kid to get thrown out of a game when he wasn't even involved in the play in ludicrous. Both sides should be embarrassed.

I'm sure Cox would like to have a say in the "best team" argument.

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Originally posted by Indian River Braves:
Ethan Carter was talking trash when they were up 2-0.

What does that mean? Why does that matter?

yes i will admit i think we did let the emotions get hold of us.but when u starting chanting dean sucks what are we suppouse to do let it go.i will admit u hear the filthy mouth every where.IR had a runner on 3rd with 1 out.and leland clemmons struck out.and then thomas swindell stricking out.

um excuse me ethan carter seem to me to be too cocky.oh gosh u were at the gm. im sure my brother ir 24 would have love to meet u haha.

i`m sure cox would like to have a say, and don't get me wrong they are a good team, and the deserve to advance to states, but if they were matched up against IR or Menchville in the Region they probably would not be playing still.. thats my opinion you can disagree all you want.

and as far as the whole crowd thing, you may have heard stuff that i did not hear during the game, but you obviously did not witness what happened as IR was trying to leave.... and as far as the player being thrown out, it was "ludicrous", but on the umpires part. In no way shape or form did he warrant getting thrown out of the game, and that is a fact, and i witnessed that part

Well...I have heard from 2 separate people on what Cartwright did to get ejected and I will say this...it had to be VERY obvious for the 2B umpire to eject someone from the dugout area. Just think about that one.

And, no...I didn't see what the Menchville fans did after the game. If it was what you described then it was ludicrous as well.

Either way, you are trying to identify what is more wrong than the other. To me, both were wrong. I was simply an impartial observer.

Carter was too cocky?!? If I threw 90 and had a ride to USC, I would be cocky too.

Please don't be so naive to think he was the only one talking trash.

I`m trying to identify what is more wrong? If i do recall you are the one who for each and everything i have said countered with something that IR has done wrong..
FYI the title moderater does not also mean " only person who's opinion matters"

oh and btw... the 2B umpire was almost inside of the IR dugout when the incident occured


regardless, best of luck to Menchville and Cox at states. As long as the deep staff of Menchville continues to pitch well, look for them to make a run, even if the D remains shaky

bbfan,

That's because I was on the IR side and witnessed quite a bit and I left immediately after the last out.

FWIW, the 2B umpire was behind the mound when the incident occurred and he tossed Cartwright.

Regardless of the situation, any player leaving the dugout like that to argue balls and strikes is dumped...thats what coaches are for. IR is lucky the guy that got rung up didn't go to for trying to make his way back to the plate. My question is where were the assistant coaches in all this? Steve West should not have to come all the way from third base to control that dugout. As someone who has played division I college baseball, these kids need to understand that at the next level, its not just getting ejected from a game, its an embarrassment to yourself, coach, team, and most of all THE UNIVERSITY you play for. At that level, the consequences are much greater than sitting out the next game. My last point is I don't know if anyone was looking at Cartwright as a college prospect, but he might have cost himself some opportunities tonight.

ive seen menchville play in the region tourney before...their fans were just like this back a few years ago...very classless...ive also witnessed a lot of trash talking from some of the southeastern district teams before...its seems to me that the only district with class as a whole is the beach district...why werent any of these fans kicked out of the stands? if odu is going to allow these fans to act like they are then they arent going to stop...im guessing it wont get any better during the championship.

Immu ,
Your comment that the beach district is the only one with class is truly representative of the beach,selfserving and inaccurate.I agree we read the many post of the IR fans and they were certainly anticipating better at this stage.I am sure if the rotation allowed them to play the beach district IR's aggressive play would be rewarded at this years event.The real chokers of the tournament was Maury and the loss they had with the placement Maury should have taken advantage.I have not witnessed the inner city eastern district act the way of IR or Mench,but I don't believe they(IR and Mench) represent the whole of there districts and I have been to many of the south eastern games.I have seen beach folks act equally ugly from Kempsville losing to Cox and FC,so don't make these unwarranted comments they bring no new insight here.

First of all let me add to the conversation that Menchville is 22-1, the #5 team in the country according to BA, and the guy on the mound has lost one game in two years while being verballing committed to a top 25 collge team (ECU) as a SOPHOMORE.

The guys knew what they were up against. They also knew they would be up against not only a very talented team, but a very emotional, fiery team (and crowd). They were extremely fired up, maybe too much, but they wanted to prove that they could play on their level and knew they had to match their intensity in order to play with them.

As far as Chris goes...
* The ump that tossed him was 5 feet from the first base foul line inside of the bag when he gave him the heave.
* Chris said just before the game started, "I don't want this to be my last game."
* Chris was fired up even more by some comments made directly to him on the field by Menchville's players, a coach, and the fans throughout the game. Did he let himself hear too much? Hard to miss a player or coach right beside you saying some really classless things... and their fans were plenty loud for anyone to hear.
* His outburst was directed at their fans and their reaction/words when Alley went down, not the umpire.
* Chris would run through a wall for any of his teammates or family. He is a kid any coach would want on their team due to his ability to keep his teammates together, and we all appreciate everything he has brought to IR baseball.
* Chris is going to Chowan to play golf & knew this was it for him.
* You have to remember, these are 16-18 year old guys who knew that they were playing "the #5 team", for a trip to STATES, and if they lose their HS career was over.
* Too emotional? I don't think so. Should he have let their fans get in his head? No. Does it excuse any rude behavior? Absolutely not. Do you think yesterday was one he'll hurt for a while about? Heck yes.

As far as the game, everyone mentions Menchville's E's, but only 1 of their 5 runs was earned as well. Some costly mistakes on D, coupled with a lack of clutch hits (left quite a few in scoring position) was the difference.

Regardless, Menchville is a great team, and as someone mentioned earlier, the majority of their players our guys had no problem with. Some were talking some stuff out there that only the guys on the field know about, but the majority played with class.

To have adult fans chanting classless things to high school kids, that, I hope, everyone can agree on is beyond understanding. To have the same ADULT fans go ALONG with some Menchville players and climb a fence to go after some guys on the other team on the way to their bus to ridicule them?? Never have seen that before and hopefully never will again.

Anyway, I notice that this site revolves around reporting scores ... and being extremely negative about other teams & people, and that is a shame. Many posts here are very immature and classless themselves and they aren't written by 17 year olds either, so if I don't respond to a post, it'll be because of the clear lack of mature quality.