D2 Colorado School of Mines is an excellent engineering school in a beautiful location in Golden, CO. Most of the players on the baseball team are pursuing an engineering degree.
West Point currently has 8 players in engineering majors, and they will all graduate in 4 years.
West Point is the original American engineering school, and engineering is the prime reason for its birth. Up until that time, 1802, nearly all American engineering projects were outsourced to France. While currently offering 42 majors, West Point still considers itself an engineering school.
West Point is the original American engineering school, and engineering is the prime reason for its birth. Up until that time, 1802, nearly all American engineering projects were outsourced to France. While currently offering 42 majors, West Point still considers itself an engineering school.
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West Point certainly leads the pack... especially in mechanical and civil engineering. Interestingly, all 3 SA's start every cadet/midshipman as an engineering major, and then allow them to select an exact "major" when they sign their "2 for 7" (beginning of Junior year). But up until that time, all students are engineering students. And all of them, whether they are in a Varsity uniform or not (and approx 40% are Varsity athletes) must past muster as to grades and "team time".
AFA is ranked very highly in aeronautical/astro and computer science, and Navy has some very interesting degrees in nuclear, nautical, and EE.
Kids can be both students and athletes, wherever they go to school. But it takes personal desire, discipline, and character.
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West Point certainly leads the pack... especially in mechanical and civil engineering. Interestingly, all 3 SA's start every cadet/midshipman as an engineering major, and then allow them to select an exact "major" when they sign their "2 for 7" (beginning of Junior year). But up until that time, all students are engineering students. And all of them, whether they are in a Varsity uniform or not (and approx 40% are Varsity athletes) must past muster as to grades and "team time".
AFA is ranked very highly in aeronautical/astro and computer science, and Navy has some very interesting degrees in nuclear, nautical, and EE.
Kids can be both students and athletes, wherever they go to school. But it takes personal desire, discipline, and character.
Beat Army!
cadDAD
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Our CF is going to Cal Poly next year as an engineering student. I will ask him when I have a chance about the discussions he had with the school. They are a top 25 program right now and are consistently ranked as 1 or 2 as an engineering school that does not have a PHD program.
Oh yeah and Harvey Mudd in Clairmont - also is a D3. (CMS) I talked to their coach and he has had HM students on the team. There is probably not a better small engineering school in the country.(if you can get in)
Oh yeah and Harvey Mudd in Clairmont - also is a D3. (CMS) I talked to their coach and he has had HM students on the team. There is probably not a better small engineering school in the country.(if you can get in)
quote:Originally posted by BOF:
Our CF is going to Cal Poly next year as an engineering student. I will ask him when I have a chance about the discussions he had with the school. They are a top 25 program right now and are consistently ranked as 1 or 2 as an engineering school that does not have a PHD program.
BOF - I have no doubts that is what his intentions are and congrats to the young man btw. Without mentioning any names, I am aware of three hsbbweb members kids who announced Engineering as their undergrad and are attending powerhouse D1 baseball schools. All have since switched their majors. Obviously, that is only anecdotal evidence and not proof of my point however.
Bordeaux's son David Stringer is one of the best examples I can think of as one who handled a very rigorous degree at Stanford and excelled at baseball. Perhaps someone can give her a heads-up about this thread and maybe she can provide further comments.
I believe someone who chooses Engineering in 99.99% of the cases is going to need to trade-off something. I think they are going to need to trade-off practice time in pursuit of their studies. I don't believe it is possible (as a general rule) to excell at a school like Fullerton and also pursue Engineering. Their current roster and the degrees that are being pursued supports this premise. I know from my own experience how difficult Engineering is. I also know from my son's experience how much time is involved with D1 baseball. There is only so much time in the day.
There was an article in the University of Iowa student paper, The Daily Iowan, about the engineering students and athletics. The feature of the article was the swim team with last year's captain now wat MIT doing alternative fuel research. Two freshman swimmers were engineering majors. Several football players were listed including the kicker that beat Penn State. No mention of baseball, but the information was solid. The archive is currently off line. I just went to check for a link.
The paper is http://www.dailyiowan.com/
The paper is http://www.dailyiowan.com/
Blprkfrnks - I attended Cal Poly 29 yrs ago when they were DII. One difference I see is we would play a game on Friday and a doubleheader on Saturday with Sunday off to study or recoup from Saturday night. The traveling on bus to SoCal was tough but it did improve your gambling skills. One of the main reasons I was offered a job out of college with a 2.something gpa is that the the employer took note that I played baseball and took engineering. Plus he was a big baseball fan. I guess I was lucky.
I also got my engineering degree from Cal Poly. (actually crafty..29 years ago...may know you) Instead of 35-40 hours of baseball practice I spent at LEAST that much time surfing up and down the the Central Coast. I agree it may be a challenge but doable for those with the right approach and desire.
BOF - We most likely bumped into each other at the "Graduate" or "McClintocks" . Got my degree in Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Engineering. Trying to steer 2011 lhp son towards SLO town.
Baseball is a rather unique sport to combine with engineering versus other sports because you miss far more classes( with all of the travel- midweek games.etc.)My son recalls missing DifEQ classes- and self teaching himself the material at 12am- not an easy task! My husband played football at a major D1 school- and after seeing how much time you miss from classes with a sport like baseball- wonders if he could have played a sport like baseball and combined it with engineering.Also- with todays job market it is more difficult to get a good job with a lower GPA (at least that's what the experience has been with my son's friends).However- this is the time where the AP classes can help- my son was 2 units shy of entering as a sophomore- and was able to lighten up his workload in the spring- and still finish in 4 years. It can be done- but his junior and senior years were a killer!
I too have very little to add other than to say this is one of the best threads I've read.
I went to RPI in Troy, NY (D3) and graduated with an engineering degree. I did not play a sport (I was a track / cross country guy in HS) and sometimes think if I had, I might've managed my time a little better. When you have all weekend to get 8 hours of homework done, its real easy (for and 18 year old at least) to find Sunday evening without having started.
As for D1 baseball and engineering, I'm sure it can be done, but the kid would have to be special.
RPI had a kid drafted in the single digit rounds a few years ago... Not that I'm trying to recruit...
I went to RPI in Troy, NY (D3) and graduated with an engineering degree. I did not play a sport (I was a track / cross country guy in HS) and sometimes think if I had, I might've managed my time a little better. When you have all weekend to get 8 hours of homework done, its real easy (for and 18 year old at least) to find Sunday evening without having started.
As for D1 baseball and engineering, I'm sure it can be done, but the kid would have to be special.
RPI had a kid drafted in the single digit rounds a few years ago... Not that I'm trying to recruit...
JMoff - to your point, when my son visited overnight with the team for the D3 college he will be attending next year, the players all said that playing baseball helped them to manage their time and keep things on track.
Casey, to your point, a busy ship is a happy ship.
I really think if I'd played a sport, my GPA would've been higher when I graduated. I was strongly encouraged by my parents, who were footing the bill, to 'just go to school'. The bill (84-88) was $25K/yr. That sounds expensive even now and I've always done what mom and dad told me to do...
Let me rock the boat a little.
If your kid is smart and a great baseball player, but can't find the D1 school they want with the major that will ensure their future, what do you do?
For example, junior has a scholarship to go study 'underwater basket weaving' at the D1 school of your choice but junior has great SAT scores, is an A student and really wants to be an engineer when he grows up. Local area scout says he could be a 9-13th rounder and with minimal signing bonus, but they'd be willing to commit to pay tuition at a state school for four years in his major of choice if he signs and doesn't make it.
Everyone in your family tree has gone to college for a professional degree, so deferring college is a significant emotional event.
Do you decide that MEANINGFUL college is better than college (under water basket weaving versus electrical engineering) and sign, chase the dream and when its done, buckle down and go to school or do you go to school now, get the 'general studies' degree and try it after the junior year if you still have that option?
I really think if I'd played a sport, my GPA would've been higher when I graduated. I was strongly encouraged by my parents, who were footing the bill, to 'just go to school'. The bill (84-88) was $25K/yr. That sounds expensive even now and I've always done what mom and dad told me to do...
Let me rock the boat a little.
If your kid is smart and a great baseball player, but can't find the D1 school they want with the major that will ensure their future, what do you do?
For example, junior has a scholarship to go study 'underwater basket weaving' at the D1 school of your choice but junior has great SAT scores, is an A student and really wants to be an engineer when he grows up. Local area scout says he could be a 9-13th rounder and with minimal signing bonus, but they'd be willing to commit to pay tuition at a state school for four years in his major of choice if he signs and doesn't make it.
Everyone in your family tree has gone to college for a professional degree, so deferring college is a significant emotional event.
Do you decide that MEANINGFUL college is better than college (under water basket weaving versus electrical engineering) and sign, chase the dream and when its done, buckle down and go to school or do you go to school now, get the 'general studies' degree and try it after the junior year if you still have that option?
quote:Originally posted by craftylefty:
BOF - We most likely bumped into each other at the "Graduate" or "McClintocks" . Got my degree in Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Engineering. Trying to steer 2011 lhp son towards SLO town.
Probably hit those places a few times. Was Mechanical Eng. SLO is on my 2011 list also. Our CF is going there next year as an engineering major. They are tearing it up this year, if they keep it up they will finally make it into the tournament. (even though they should have been in several times before this year)
University of Rhode Island (D1) has a current player who is an engineering major.
check out roster for UC San Diego- lots of science major players.
D2 school though, a very good D2 actually.
Actually some good D2 programs can easily beat some not so good D1 programs. So in that sense some D1 and some D2 could be considered at par.
D2 school though, a very good D2 actually.
Actually some good D2 programs can easily beat some not so good D1 programs. So in that sense some D1 and some D2 could be considered at par.
Hello All,
I am a mechanical engineer whose son is a 2011 rhp. MY degree is from NCSU. NCSU is a good engineering school. There are many others. Make sure the engineering program you will be entering is ABET accredited. This was and I beleive still is the standard bearer for engineering programs. My son may be facing this issue soon if he continues to progress with his baseball. The issue being wheather to pursue and engineering degree while playing D1 baseball. Generally, engineering is for people who are good in math, who have an insatiable desire to learn how things work and who want to improve things. If your son has the desire to be an engineer, I wouldn't tell him he can't because he's playing baseball. Curriculum and class schedules are flexible. My thoughts.. thx
I am a mechanical engineer whose son is a 2011 rhp. MY degree is from NCSU. NCSU is a good engineering school. There are many others. Make sure the engineering program you will be entering is ABET accredited. This was and I beleive still is the standard bearer for engineering programs. My son may be facing this issue soon if he continues to progress with his baseball. The issue being wheather to pursue and engineering degree while playing D1 baseball. Generally, engineering is for people who are good in math, who have an insatiable desire to learn how things work and who want to improve things. If your son has the desire to be an engineer, I wouldn't tell him he can't because he's playing baseball. Curriculum and class schedules are flexible. My thoughts.. thx
Don't forget Cal Poly, an excellent engineering school! But you would have to be one smart young man to make an engineering major at Cal Poly and D1 baseball player combo work successfully.
Cal Poly = California Polytechnic State University, located in San Luis Obispo, California
Cal Poly = California Polytechnic State University, located in San Luis Obispo, California
A young man named Nate Freiman graduated Duke last year with an engineering degree. I don't know for sure if any adjustments were made by the baseball program in order to accommodate the major, but I kind of doubt it.
So at the very least it IS possible to do it at Duke. But Nate is not your average guy. He was ACC Scholar Athlete of the Year last year.
So at the very least it IS possible to do it at Duke. But Nate is not your average guy. He was ACC Scholar Athlete of the Year last year.
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