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DENIED....DENIED....DENIED.

First, I must say I applaud the committee and Neal Wilson for really digging into the facts that this transfer was for athletic purposes only. Additionaly, sending a message to ALL HS athlete parents that you do not control/dictate who plays when....the coach does and not allowing kids to transfer for athletic reasons.

Thank you for not allowing this transfer through.

I heard the appeal process and lawsuits are being filed.

Good Luck to JM. Maybe FM would take him back??
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All I know (and this is not to judge him in anyway) is that if I was a soph. on varsity at Flo-Mo, I'd be pretty dang happy. The kid will overcome this. I don't really want to say if I agree or not... I don't know which it is... but I do know, for the kids sake I hope this inspires him to work harder and eventually leads him to greater things.
This could be another reality TV show.... I am digging Two-A-Days, maybe we can do one about Baseball, what would we name it?

As the Ball Turns (90mph or more).
All my Players (instead of Children)
The Real World of HS Baseball
The Inferno (grilling at the ballpark)
America's Next Top Model Family (we are all better looking than those football parents)
Big Brother (is watching)
Survivor (off season)
Fear Factor (tryouts)


Big Grin of course this is all in good fun.

Edited: My post was not meant to be pointed at the principals involved in the transfer but pointed at the nature of HS baseball in Texas.......A little humor to divert was the intent........last time I will rush a post before lunch..
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Originally posted by oldbat-never:
This could be another reality TV show.... I am digging Two-A-Days, maybe we can do one about Baseball, what would we name it?

As the Ball Turns (90mph or more).
All my Players (instead of Children)
The Real World of HS Baseball
The Inferno (grilling at the ballpark)
America's Next Top Model Family
Big Brother (is watching)
Survivor (off season)
Fear Factor (tryouts)
Wife Switch (not even going there on that one).

Big Grin of course this is all in good fun.


All in good fun, but appears a little classless.
Ok, Two a Days vs. what was listed. Come on. You honestly don't see the issue?

Just appears a little classless and I have come to expect a little more compassion from the pillars of the community.

I mean after all this is the "slap on the back", "syrupy sweet" Texas edition HSBW. You can't get on here without reading thanks, congrats and you're the best quotes.

Then you get comments like the one we are referring to. Which to anyone that reads this board understands the overtones that are indicated.

It's really ok, I just expected a little more....that's all.
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Originally posted by cheapseats:
JAFO - If you don't think there are not heated opinions on this topic then you ain't been followin the boards to close. Smile


My comment was for disagreement of diffusing the situation. And you are right about not watching closely.

The last Reality Show......."appears" to be over the line and a little beneath the "Pillars" as indicated by the comment "not even going there on that one".

It just doesn't sound like it has much class or use in the list. But as everyone that has commented sees otherwise. And it's really ok, makes me no difference at all. "Just another foolish observer" = JAFO.......what do I know!
Been gone to lunch and came back to this.

And yes, the intent was to lighten up the situation and I was at work and asked folks to name some reality shows for me, to be honest I am a reality show junkie, everyone that knows me knows that.

I wasn't trying to dig anyone just that we all know that this situation isn't the only one that has occured in our baseball community and it won't be the last that divide people by beliefs, by standards, by team loyalties, it is the nature of HS sports......

I will learn not to rush a post before lunch, the last one was not meant as a dig someone just yelled it out at work and I put it down and they didn't even know I what I was posting about. My comment on Wife Swap was meant based on if you have ever seen that show you would know it is one of the stupiest shows on TV..........I didn't mean "I am not even going there" based on this situation it was meant not even going there meaning that I can't even explain that show.

So I apologize, I will remove that last one and let me phrase it this way:

My post was not meant to be pointed at the principals involved in the transfer but pointed at the nature of HS baseball in Texas.......

Sorry.............

Cheapseats: Thought about American Idol need to add that and Dancing with the Stars could be like Dancing with the Allstars.
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Originally posted by JAFO:
I mean after all this is the "slap on the back", "syrupy sweet" Texas edition HSBW. You can't get on here without reading thanks, congrats and you're the best quotes.


I, for one, hope there never does come a day when I can't be happy and give accolades to those who deserve and have earned it. But, heck, what do I know?

Back to preparing taxes now... something I do know a little somethin' 'bout!
OBN,

I thought it was funny.

Here is another list...shortest books in history:

1. The rules governing recruiting of athletes to private schools.

2. All-time list of student-athletes that transferred to another high school because they wanted a more stringent academic challenge.

3. List of baseball moms who quietly sit and watch a game that their son is playing in.

4. Umpires who have a consistent strike zone.

5. Parents who played baseball in high school, but know more about the game than former professional bullpen catchers.

6. HS coaches who have no agenda other than winning games.

Please take this list in the spirit in which I issued it...fun. Big Grin
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TbirdDad,

Man wish you, Collikar,Momandcpa and the host of others were all in our district we could have some fun times before/after/during the games.....Thank goodness for a sense of humor, not sure I would have made it through all these years of baseball without it.....And thank goodness Applebees opened up in Highland Village, that $1.25 draft all day special has come in mighty handy during this last and final HS baseball season....


I will have to think of some good book titles as well but right now I am just a bit

"LOST" (favorite show)

when it comes to the

"Real World" (favorite reality show)

Need to figure out the rest of the day and how to juggle HS track meet and baseball game guess it will be another

"Amazing Race"

just hope I

"Survive" the cold

Big Grin
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Some people find conspiracy in everything. So, the second my son becomes a member of a varsity team, regardless of his age, he is "bound" to that team as long as he is eligible to compete in that UIL sport? How can a panel of administrators determine whether a family moves for athletic purposes? Can a family move from public to private for prophetic purposes? Can a one-armed pitcher move for prosthetic purposes? Can a dad that thinks he's funny move for pathetic purposes? Smile

My oldest two sons attended Plano East because we lived in the Plano East feeder system (boundry). They changed the bountry before PantherSon was in high school, so we moved less than a mile away -- back INTO the Plano East feeder system. We moved because 1) we wanted a larger home and 2) we wanted PSIII to attend Plano East because we were comfortable with ALL that it meant to us. We were familiar with it. It was in our "blood". Did we move for athletic purposes? Well....it was a factor. Were there numerous other factors? Of course. Did we break rules? NO Razz because we did it before he set foot on a field as a V-athlete.

In many circumstances around town, boundries change frequently. New schools are built. And....people change jobs...their families change....they need larger homes for any number of reasons.....they need to downsize....job changes, financial hardships. In many/most cases with athletes in the family, athletics may be a factor.

Someone claimed that those that get away with moving are "better liars". I think that's unfair. And without judging this families intent, the UIL will ask a group of administrators to determine whether athetics is a factor. And if so, how much of one. Government in action --- I guess someone has to do it.

The outcome of a specific case should never determine law -- but it seems to at times, eh? Smile I am not surprised that the athletic folks did not approve his request to play V in 2007 -- is anyone?

Before those of you over than on that side of the fence dog-pile me.....I am all in favor of a kid working harder to improve his lot in life (i.e. baseball). I am not in favor of a family disrupting their lives so little jimmy can play for a new coach. <- learn a life lesson dude! But people do move to find better circumstances ---- they do it at work ---- they do it at church ---- the debate goes on.

JMO -- without disclaimer, I'm tired of typing.

-PD
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Originally posted by jesuitbaseball:
Question..


Do you think the transfer would be as big of a deal if he transfered to lets say, Plano West, a non-district opponent, and a non-rival??


From what I understand this hearing was administered by the District without regard as to the destination. Judging from all that has been written "someone" was not happy and was looking for a change. I understand the same family had threatened to pull out last year and move to Southlake.
As a recent transfer, we knew going in that we needed to be in our new district at the start of the school year. You still need to get your prior coaches approval, but it is much harder to deny at the start of the year. We also knew that if we left before school was out for the year, we were going to play sub varsity. If you know this up front, it is hard to argue with the results of this particular appeal. I think there is more than enough recruiting between seasons, we don't need this during any season. I personally think it is a good rule, and it keeps kids from changing schools during the year. By the way, we didn't move for athletic reasons, but we knew the consequences anyway.

Most club teams have a contract that is signed before the season and you will be held to it if it is to the club's benefit. You will not be allowed to change select teams during the season and they have a signature to back it up. Or that has been my experience anyway. I don't remember signing any contract with UIL, but if I play in their sanction, I expect to play by their rules.

Just an opinion.
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Originally posted by jesuitbaseball:
Question..


Do you think the transfer would be as big of a deal if he transfered to lets say, Plano West, a non-district opponent, and a non-rival??


jb, I think you hit the nail on the head. I am sure the committee would have looked more favorably on the transfer had it been to a school further than 10-15 minutes away.
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Originally posted by ironhorse:
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Originally posted by T-Bird Dad:
5. Parents who played baseball in high school, but know more about the game than former professional bullpen catchers.

6. HS coaches who have no agenda other than winning games.


How about:

7. Parents who do NOT have a cynical attitude toward HS coaches.


It fits! Smile

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