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Originally Posted by Tx-Husker:
Originally Posted by TPM:

BTW, where is Al Sharpton now?

Now, all of a sudden, the "system work" according to big al.  He claims he wasn't "called in" in this case.  He's a professional leach that benefits for his personal gain on holding back the very people he pretends to protect.

I know, it's just totally amazing <shaking head sadly>.

Originally Posted by Tx-Husker:
Originally Posted by Big Country:

Just wondering if you guys still feel the same way, now that more details have emerged? 

I think you're missing the point.  Why was this case immediately deemed NOT to be a race crime?  This morning CNN is reporting "Death of transgender woman a possible hate crime" as a headline when nothing has been proven by evidence yet either way?  In the Zimmerman case, why was it reported as white on black race crime when Zimmerman isn't even white?  Hold the media to the same standard in all cases, and hold them to a higher standard than the gutter sensationalism standard they hold themselves too.

PS.  Hold the White House and it's Justice Department to the same standard.

A. There has been no evidence in the present case to suggest targeting based on race.

B. There is a witness account in the murder of Islan Nettles that derogatory slurs were said by her attacker.

C. Zimmerman is white. Hispanic is not a race, but an ethnicity.

Originally Posted by Tx-Husker:

What's your point?  Isn't Barack Obama's mother white?

That is my point. Obama's mother is white, He was raised by his white grandparents in the mostly white state of Hawaii, and he lives in the "white house" yet he is universally considered to be a "black" man. Is that because his father is black or is that because he looks black?
Is it because he is married to a black woman?

 

Zimmerman's mother is hispanic but his father is white. To me he looks hispanic but not necessarily. He is married to a white woman. So how do you determine his race?

 

It seems to me that you are arguing that George Z. is hispanic, and the "media" purposely lied about his race in order to make it appear that Travon's murder was a case of white on black crime, thus creating racial tension in order to keep Al Sharpton employed. 

 

My point is, you label him hispanic and the "media" labled him white, either one is just as correct or incorrect as the other.  Which parent in a mixed race marriage determines what race their children will be?

 

 

Last edited by Big Country
Originally Posted by TPM:

I agree with Tx, not sure that Big Country is getting the point.

 

BTW, where is Al Sharpton now?

 

Oh yeah, in DC marching for civil rights.

TPM you are right again! I'm not sure I'm getting your point either.

 

Unless your point is that Al Sharpton Is a lazy, rotten, low down scoundrel who should criticized, mocked and insulted at every opportunity.  Unless your point is that Zimmerman was framed by the media as a part of their "race war" conspiracy.  What exactly is your point.

 

Please explain it to me. 

Originally Posted by Tx-Husker:

There wasn't evidence in the Zimmerman trial either, in fact there was evidence to the contrary.   The US defines "whites" as origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, Middle East or North Africa.  So, nice try, but not white.  Rationalize away, Matt.

 

I have no clue what you think I am rationalizing, but you are wrong, again. By definition, anyone of Hispanic ethnicity (note, not race) is at least part white.

 

I have a hunch that, as usual, you are going to ignore concrete facts, such as the very meaning of Hispanic refers to descent of one of several European areas.

Big country- below is just one example supporting my theory of the fallout from the Trayvon Martin hysteria.  i believe the media is partly responsible for this......

 

According to police, Owens fussed at some kids playing basketball in the middle of Delmar Drive about 8:30 Saturday night. They say the kids left and a group of adults returned, armed with everything but the kitchen sink.

 

Police tell News 5 the suspects used chairs, pipes and paint cans to beat Owens.

 

Owens' sister, Ashley Parker, saw the attack. "It was the scariest thing I have ever witnessed." Parker says 20 people, all African American, attacked her brother on the front porch of his home, using "brass buckles, paint cans and anything they could get their hands on."

 

What Parker says happened next could make the fallout from the brutal beating even worse. As the attackers walked away, leaving Owen bleeding on the ground, Parker says one of them said "Now thats justice for Trayvon."

 

Aren't we all getting a bit carried away here, trying to one up on each other?

 

The bottom line is this is a tragic, senseless murder, whether gang, racist related  or just plain bored good for nothing teens that needed attenttion, it's so sad and as a mother it rips me apart.

 

The way I look at it is that it didn't have to happen, if people had more respect and value for human lives, and stiffer gun laws (yes, I am in favor).

 

In case anyone hasn't noticed, this is happening ALL over the world, and it's sickening.

Originally Posted by TPM:

       
Aren't we all getting a bit carried away here, trying to one up on each other?

The bottom line is this is a tragic, senseless murder, whether gang, racist related  or just plain bored good for nothing teens that needed attenttion, it's so sad and as a mother it rips me apart.

The way I look at it is that it didn't have to happen, if people had more respect and value for human lives, and stiffer gun laws (yes, I am in favor).

In case anyone hasn't noticed, this is happening ALL over the world, and it's sickening.

       


Guns laws only affect law abiding citizens. Criminals aren't going to follow tougher gun laws.  It's interesting that cities like Chicago who have the most stringent gun laws in America have the highest crime rates as well.   Gun laws have absolutely nothing to do with heinous crimes such as these.  Last time I checked, murder is against the law as well.
Originally Posted by JBoss:

But they never identified the killers as black teenagers. Had it been the other way around, it would have been white teenagers killing a black baseball players, so it must have been a hate crime. This is definitely a hate crime. Where are the ambulance chasers like Jackson and Sharpton now. No where! Double standards.

Agreed!

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