son went to PBR this weekend and exit velo was taken off of a tee. Is this traditional or do some showcases take off of front toss or a coach throwing?
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off the T with a 32" is the standard that I am aware of. I wouldn't worry to much about the number, if the boy was 85 to 90 I think it is pretty much a non issue, if he is below you most likely already know hitting isn't his main strength, and above it is possible that it is...
old_school posted:off the T with a 32" is the standard that I am aware of. I wouldn't worry to much about the number, if the boy was 85 to 90 I think it is pretty much a non issue, if he is below you most likely already know hitting isn't his main strength, and above it is possible that it is...
Agreed, with the caveat that the OP has a 2020, so I'd give a little leeway in those numbers
If it's taken off a tee, then the 'pitch speed' variable is constant - zero. Therefore, you can compare one hitter to the next.
If you pitch to them, them the pitch speed will vary by pitch and you can't compare hitters, or even at bats.
I do have a 20....hitting has always been a strength....hes hit 90 mph exit velo off hit trax....75 mph Saturday off the tee...very disappointed!
edcoach posted:I do have a 20....hitting has always been a strength....hes hit 90 mph exit velo off hit trax....75 mph Saturday off the tee...very disappointed!
My (limited) understanding is that a 10-12 mph difference is common. So 90 off a tee may be 100+ mph in games.
well friday night off the tee he was 84 (max) but 90 off machine. Saturday off the tee was 75.
I wouldn't dwell on it to much, if he can hit he will have plenty of time to show it.
Off tee is the standard. Your son was probably a bit nervous and not trusting his lower half, also typical, if at one of his first showcases. If he hit 84 off tee recently, no worries, keep developing and building confidence. If that's the case you could always do another upcoming PBR if money not an issue.
I would make sure his other measurables are up to "speed"- position velo and 60 time. If he runs a 7.8, and throws 75, but hit 84 off tee, the overall result would be mediocre. But as a 2020 if he ran sub 7.2, threw 80, then with a 84 exit velo he'd get attention. But nothing crazy, still early....
Example: our area had a 2019 at his first PBR event a year ago; he threw 88 from IF and had exit velo of 94. This rec'd huge attention, accepted offer following summer at top D1 program. As a freshman kid was already 6'1 with big parents...very projectable.
Position? Current size?
We've all been there...
catcher....6'2 175 60 time 7.2 pop 2.02 c velo 73 he actually showcased with the infielders as well and was better there than catching (his main position) Unfortunately they only posted his catching numbers...for the record, he was nervous as it was his first showcase....no excuses though....going back to work!
edcoach posted:catcher....6'2 175 60 time 7.2 pop 2.02 c velo 73 he actually showcased with the infielders as well and was better there than catching (his main position) Unfortunately they only posted his catching numbers...for the record, he was nervous as it was his first showcase....no excuses though....going back to work!
all is well, work hard enjoy the ride, it is supposed to be fun.
edcoach, Did you watch him hit? Did it look like his typical contact to you? Even the most conscientious people working showcases make mistakes. At his size, and from what you've described, I wouldn't expect a number like that.
MidAtlanticDad posted:edcoach, Did you watch him hit? Did it look like his typical contact to you? Even the most conscientious people working showcases make mistakes. At his size, and from what you've described, I wouldn't expect a number like that.
Learning his size I concur. For example my sons 60 was misreported at a top showcase by roughly 3/4 of a second... Happens... son is 2018; lot of angst for us
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Most people coil in their shoulders only during tee hits. They do not coil in their hips as they would/should in a game. This will account for poor tee exit velo.
Midatlanticdad-i was about 100 ft awayhehit all 5 back in the screen about 10 feet away. It doesnt seem right at all...especially seeing kids he plays with that dont hit like him but were 85 mph plus
Exit velo is one subject I can't get my head around. Look at the Super 60 numbers. 106, 104, 102, 99, 99, 99.
OK, now my kid was 93 a couple of weeks ago where he works out. The thing is the kid just crushes the ball. In AZ a few weeks ago at the PG MLK tournament he hit a HR the easily went 400+ feet. So now you have a kid 13 mph faster. I mean what does that equate to, 475, 500, 525 feet? It would seem to me you'd hear about that.
The other thing I've noticed is, when you see a discrepancy such as this then look at cage work comparing the player with the higher number to one that is more normal the effort exhibited doesn't support the higher number.
No lower half ... key piece at this juncture... whatever stride he has, it's about sequencing from the ground up to produce power.
Coiling aids torque, combined with proper sequencing he'll generate the power
SomeBaseballDad posted:Exit velo is one subject I can't get my head around. Look at the Super 60 numbers. 106, 104, 102, 99, 99, 99.
OK, now my kid was 93 a couple of weeks ago where he works out. The thing is the kid just crushes the ball. In AZ a few weeks ago at the PG MLK tournament he hit a HR the easily went 400+ feet. So now you have a kid 13 mph faster. I mean what does that equate to, 475, 500, 525 feet? It would seem to me you'd hear about that.
The other thing I've noticed is, when you see a discrepancy such as this then look at cage work comparing the player with the higher number to one that is more normal the effort exhibited doesn't support the higher number.
The 106 kid has a big exit velo swing, but more relaxed and balanced in games. Line drive HRs are common... BUT, he struggled Frosh-Soph trying to figure out how to manage is power to hit the ball in games.. early on lots of strike outs, but now, he's developed an excellent approach & times up pitchers well.
My 2019 couple weeks ago at PBR had a 93 mph exit velo right-handed and 89 mph left-handed, catcher velocity was 80 mph outfield velocity was 89 mph , i've always question the true meaning of hitting off the tea for measurements
Those are great numbers. What was his pop?