Lost and Didn’t pitch. Like I said he is being used as a Batting practice pitcher to get the team ready for play. Supposed to pitch Sunday to again give the team somebody to hit off of.
You don't win scrimmages. You can play better and score less runs. No one cares. Just play well.
And if you are like this at home, I'd wonder what your son/wife thinks. Both of my sons would have already called me on the carpet if I acted like you.
Good luck to your son. Just tell him to do the best that he can. He can always go into the portal in December.
@Rockers posted:Lost and Didn’t pitch. Like I said he is being used as a Batting practice pitcher to get the team ready for play. Supposed to pitch Sunday to again give the team somebody to hit off of.
What questions were asked when he was recruited? Did he ask, “where do you see me fitting in your program”. Or did you all just have stars in your eyes? Control what you can control. You can’t control playing time, get bigger, stronger. Or you can just tell him to quit.
I feel we are being trolled….
Wonder if the coaching staff thought, “shoot, our live AB pitcher just graduated, let’s hit up the portal and see if we can get a guy”
@Rockers posted:Lost and Didn’t pitch. Like I said he is being used as a Batting practice pitcher to get the team ready for play. Supposed to pitch Sunday to again give the team somebody to hit off of.
So what actually are you upset about? He is obviously getting work in and true they may be sacrificing his arm this time of year instead of a better younger arm, but be aware what you are suggesting throwing batting practice has bad implications. In all my years watching batting practice I have never seen anyone other than a coach throw BP behind a sreen. The only concern should be over use.
Are you upset that he wasn't able to pitch against a top D1 team in a scrimmage, which btw essentially means nothing unless he was a top draft prospect, because you figured scouts would be there? Trust me they will be everywhere next spring.
Coaches bring in junior, seniors, grad transfers for their leadership and experience. The stats gathered during fall practice means very little until the real deal or again unless you are a top draft prospect.
We are all either past or present parents of baseball players. Been there and done it, some several times.
Be careful who you call an idiot. You never know who is at the other end of the argument!
This thread is unbelievable!
@adbono posted:This thread is unbelievable!
Internet gold!
I wonder if op is gone for good? I’d like to hear what happens with his son
@TPM posted:If you all think that this was incredible, go back to read his first ever post in 2021 entitled LHP.
Warning...it's 7 pages long! I think every webster posted!
This was before my time. Thanks for pointing out the entertaining read.
Going to do that now!
Holy God! I am not going to read prior thread.
This whole damn discussion sucked the IQ right out of me!
I am done.
Refer to my first reply.
I am still here. He did not pitch. I am not getting into it with all of you.
I still don’t think you all get my point so let me try this one more time. 20 pitchers are on the team. 13 pitched. 3 are injured. 4 were not on the card to pitch one being my son. So what does that tell you?
And they scrimmage again today so guess who is pitching? The 4 not on the card.
TPM is starting to get it. They are over using his arm more than others.
@Rockers posted:I still don’t think you all get my point so let me try this one more time. 20 pitchers are on the team. 13 pitched. 3 are injured. 4 were not on the card to pitch one being my son. So what does that tell you?
It tells me absolutely nothing. There are 3 possible people that know why. His HC, PC, and your son. If you are hell-bent on finding the answer, then you need to go to them.
Those of us that have been around know that college students don't share/disclose 100% everything with their parents. You are not the first parent to come here with a playing time situation. I shared my playing time situation with you, and I still don't know what the HC was thinking at the time. That was the HCs call, and I let my son handle his business.
Feel free to come back when you have the answer. If I'm reading the room right, I think everybody here is done taking wild @ss guesses.
Good luck!
Once they’re adults there’s very little we can or should control. Events that impact our kids and how they struggle through them are often those things that build the most character and motivation for change. All we can do is emotionally support them in a way that’s best suited for our individual kid.
I have a tactic I’ve been refining for years (I say refining, because I often relapse). If a situation or individual causes me to react or behave in a manor that’s inconsistent with the person I strive to be (my best self), then I’ve been beaten. I’m competitive, and I don’t like to lose. I’ve turned character into a competition, not sure it’s a healthy method, but it’s served me well for going through things like playing time, coaching bizarreness and parental politics.
I had a whole season of driving 7 hrs. round trip (every weekend) to watch my son not play (12 innings for the year). Why didn’t the coach pitch him, no clue, the Padres tried to draft him in the late rounds at the end of that season. For whatever reason the juco coach didn’t pitch him, and I needed to stay positive and be supportive to my son.
It should be fine to vent here, but there are no answers to your questions – coaches being coaches. Remember, half of a subset of anything is below average…
Good luck and best wishes on the upcoming season!
@Rockers posted:Like I said he is being used as a Batting practice pitcher to get the team ready for play. Supposed to pitch Sunday to again give the team somebody to hit off of.
You may get your answer as soon as the upcoming holidays but your previous aforementioned thread begs the question... Have you not already "won"? You clearly stated what your goals were at that time, and your son is apparently now at a D1 school which hopefully also satisfies desired academics.
I'm empathetic to your plight. I've had my share of public (& private) mania and anxiety/ depression on these forums. We are all human. I reread them from time to time to remind us how far we've come, and that yes, (some) personal growth IS possible even for old dogs like me. Try to stay in the moment. Reflecting upon the past and what may have been often leads to depression and worrying excessively about what's to come anxiety. Ive been in both places, and it's a constant struggle. Last thing I want to do is project that on my kiddo.
It is my understanding that many competitive D1 programs concerns with the rule changes were about how they were going to be able to successfully inter-squad and scrimmage during the fall due to lack of arms. It IS still "early", but perhaps not as early as everyone thinks. The only thing I can say here is stay positive, remember what your original goals were (as you have seemingly accomplished them at this point in time). From my perspective, you're playing with house money so to speak. If the goal posts have moved, and the desire is not to only play and graduate from a D1 program and more about conspicuous contribution and perhaps even playing at the NEXT level, then the portal is STILL there IF it becomes necessary. The loftiest of goals often require the most tunnel visioned & blinding, singularly focused sacrifice. Your previous thread suggests no lack of blinding singularly focused ambition, which in some ways is admirable, as it IS the very core and essence of what I think Jucodad is conveying as competitiveness. However I would caution, again from personal experience, about perpetually moving the goal posts. It's not fair to anyone, (obviously to your son) , but also yourself.
And the irony is that elephant in the room is that looking at where your kid is now, many in that previous thread seem to have given you very good advice. Advice 'round here is free. Ignore it at your peril.
One can only control what they can control and do one's best to stay in the moment. Good luck to you and your son! I'm personally rooting for him. NEVER underestimate the singularly driven underdog...
I'm sympathetic, having also been in a situation where we had no idea what the coach was doing (that was in HS). I think you were hoping that someone would come on and say that their son didn't pitch in a fall game but still pitched in the spring, and no-one has said that. JucoDad's reply is the closest - it should be noted that his son is now a MLB pitcher.
All of us, though, know that things change from fall to spring, mostly due to injuries. Coaches really don't know what's going to happen, and they need as many reserve players as possible. So, as someone said much earlier, your son has to stay ready to go for when he gets his chance.
Thanks all! It’s just very frustrating as you all know to figure out what in the heck are the coaches thinking. I do appreciate all the honest feedback. We all want the best for our kids.
At this point he is staying where he is no matter what. Like I said before getting a degree is priority 1. Baseball in my eyes is a bonus. We are not getting any money from them.
I did forget to mention he started the first scrimmage of the year. Only eight pitchers pitched. I need to go back and see how they mixed everything up thereafter.
@Rockers posted:There is a reason for it and I can’t figure it out. Why these pitchers? Why not two others? That’s my point.
You'll figure this out soon. Some guys get a lot of chances. Some guys don't. Sometimes coaches have a preconceived idea of who their "guys" are, and it takes a lot to change that. This still happens in D1, still happens in P5 (now P4).
@baseballhs posted:You'll figure this out soon. Some guys get a lot of chances. Some guys don't. Sometimes coaches have a preconceived idea of who their "guys" are, and it takes a lot to change that. This still happens in D1, still happens in P5 (now P4).
This post is 100% correct. It goes on at all levels of baseball. Most people think that as their players get older the coaching gets better. That is probably the most inaccurate assumption I know of. No matter what level a player rises to there will always be preconceived opinions, players that garner favor, etc. It’s just like life - not at all fair. But that’s the way it is.
Adbono
when you Coach did you see “fear” in a pitchers eyes?
I did in Japan vs America
Bob
Update: another scrimmage and only one lefty is pitching. All righties. Please help me explain the approach here. Why?
So all you experts out there I am ready to listen. Not being a wise guy but it doesn’t make any sense other than he is looking to what he has righty wise.
Against my better judgment, I’m going to respond. I’m not an expert, I’m just a parent that has fumbled around trying to be a supportive to two sons (now adults) with vastly different aptitudes.
This is a great article about the do’s and don’ts of being a minor leaguer – I sent it to my son when he was drafted in 2017. Not much is relevant to D1 ball, but I would direct you to 8. Don’t Play the GM Game. Your son is on a D1 baseball team (so he’s blessed) and nobody except the coaches know their reasoning. Trying to second guess the coaches will just lead to bitterness/frustration and suck the joy out of your son’s amazing achievement.
Good luck this year, and may your son receive the opportunities that will allow you to find joy in his journey.
@Rockers posted:Update: another scrimmage and only one lefty is pitching. All righties. Please help me explain the approach here. Why?
Is this against another school or inter-squad?
It’s against another school.
Thanks for sharing the article. I agree I told my son smile be proud and carry on.
@Rockers posted:So all you experts out there I am ready to listen. Not being a wise guy but it doesn’t make any sense other than he is looking to what he has righty wise.
Another great post from JucoDad!
My guess, pitchers in the game are matched up with opposing line up.
They, the coaches, are probably trying to figure out who will eventually start and who will relieve.
TPM - but you only pitch one lefty out of 6-7 on the team? It’s insanity to me. Everyone and I mean everyone else plays.
No longer frustrated at this point but dam it makes no sense to me. Never heard of such a thing.
Here we go again. Son hasn’t pitched in 4 scrimmages to date. Writing is clearly on the wall so I have told him to approach the pitching coach on what is going on. At this point you have nothing to lose. I don’t want to hear you should not approach the coaches. How the hell are supposed to know what to do so one can play? Sit there and guess?
And again only 2 lefties pitched to date. What the hell os this guy doing?
And he walked two in one inning. There is no remorse if some keep failing and not giving others a chance.
I may have missed something but I never read anything about your son not approaching the pcoach. I mentioned that YOU should NOT talk to the coach.
Your son needs to take care of business. Suggest that he might approach the coach asap to get you over your misery.
Your son made a choice to transfer and jumped on the first offer.
Sometimes doing that is like opening a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get.
Rockets:
It is in the "eyes". Fall baseball is a "test" and preparation for the Spring.
Read this article. Did Manager Roberts see fear in Treinen? NO!!!!
https://dodgersnation.com/incr...clincher/2024/11/08/.
Bob
TPM - I have suggested he speak to the pitching coach to get feedback and only make it about him and no one else. You’re right you never know what you might get but at this point he is staying where he is to get a degree and get out. This world is not what I thought it would be that’s for sure. Live and learn I guess.