Hope kids realize the privilege
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I feel for this young man.
20 year old freshman leaves due to academic reasons, just because of who his father is, it's all over the news. If it happened to our kids, no one would know, they could come home and could go on privately with their lives.
I hope he gets his life together.
OS,
Why did you change your original post?
20 year old freshman leaves due to academic reasons, just because of who his father is, it's all over the news. If it happened to our kids, no one would know, they could come home and could go on privately with their lives.
I hope he gets his life together.
OS,
Why did you change your original post?
Thats exactly what I was thinking TPM. I feel very sorry for him and hope he can bounce back.
More to the story, then just Acadamics
http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2009/01/08/ky...-dui-leaves-college/
http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2009/01/08/ky...-dui-leaves-college/
quote:If it happened to our kids, no one would know,
Don't count on that. Someone would find the link.
I can see it now:
http||www.yellowrag.com2006/littlefungo/finds/dadsjackdaniels/ends/upin/ditch
It's a shame how those that thirst for blood forget that at the end of the day, he is still just a kid. The last thing he needs right now is to be put on public display and ridiculed.
I had a chance to meet him this summer at a pre-draft workout, he seemed like a pretty good kid.
I can't imagine how difficult it must be to live up to his father, and now brothers fame.
I too hope he bounces back and finds his way.
I had a chance to meet him this summer at a pre-draft workout, he seemed like a pretty good kid.
I can't imagine how difficult it must be to live up to his father, and now brothers fame.
I too hope he bounces back and finds his way.
Hope the kid gets it fixed some day.
I don't think many of us could compare our kids trials and tribulation to that of Longs. Not only has he grown up in the shadows of his dad and brother, but he made an gallant attempt to escape from that shadow and I'm sure leaving behind a trail of disappointment in VA. I'm not using it as an excuse but I can't imagine the inner turmoil he's gone through the last couple years. Usually I'm the first around here to throw someone under the bus, but this story has a different swing. To top it off it gets chewed up by the press.
I guess fame has a price above and beyond what us minions may have to deal with. Imagine this happening to your kid, there would be disappointment, but not at this degree, and this public. If there's one thing in life I hate and that's strangers judging my kids.
Let's be thankful that no one was hurt.
I guess fame has a price above and beyond what us minions may have to deal with. Imagine this happening to your kid, there would be disappointment, but not at this degree, and this public. If there's one thing in life I hate and that's strangers judging my kids.
Let's be thankful that no one was hurt.
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From rhe article EH linked to...
In all, Howie hopes that this will be a positive experience for his son.
"We’re doing what any family would do," he says, "love your kids, and help them to learn from their mistakes."
Way to go Howie...his son will be just fine!
From rhe article EH linked to...
In all, Howie hopes that this will be a positive experience for his son.
"We’re doing what any family would do," he says, "love your kids, and help them to learn from their mistakes."
Way to go Howie...his son will be just fine!
quote, rz1:
"If there's one thing in life I hate and that's strangers judging my kids."
rz, I couldn't agree more. Many people judge others on what the see or read from a distance. We should all have more tolerance, at least until we have all of the facts.
If we put ourselves in this situation how would we feel. I say horrible and sad, just like Howie Long sounds in his quotes in the article.
We all make mistakes, not just minors and young adults.
"If there's one thing in life I hate and that's strangers judging my kids."
rz, I couldn't agree more. Many people judge others on what the see or read from a distance. We should all have more tolerance, at least until we have all of the facts.
If we put ourselves in this situation how would we feel. I say horrible and sad, just like Howie Long sounds in his quotes in the article.
We all make mistakes, not just minors and young adults.
I really like Kyle Long. He is a very unusual talented athlete and a nice kid. He has a great family that didn't push him into football. Howie told me he needed to learn more about baseball because Kyle wants to be a baseball player. Kyle would be an NFL prospect as a football player! He is also a MLB prospect in baseball and would have been drafted much higher, but the Long family is most interested in education.
All kids are not cut out to be great students, that don't make them bad. Lots of good kids get in trouble and learn from their mistakes. I sure hope things work out well for Kyle Long.
All kids are not cut out to be great students, that don't make them bad. Lots of good kids get in trouble and learn from their mistakes. I sure hope things work out well for Kyle Long.
Focus is the #1 attribute any athlete or person can have. Focus drives passion, desire, and the competitive nature of an individual and we all know where passion/desire/competitiveness takes a person.
To me, that privilege is a two way street.
It might be a privilege for the athlete, but it is also a privilege to the athletic program to have that athlete. After all, the top athletes do have many choices in most cases. This is most obvious during the recruiting process involving the most talented athletes.
I do agree, though, athletes should consider it a privilege. I think most do, but as we all know, kids are not all the same. Most of them will make some mistakes along the way.
It might be a privilege for the athlete, but it is also a privilege to the athletic program to have that athlete. After all, the top athletes do have many choices in most cases. This is most obvious during the recruiting process involving the most talented athletes.
I do agree, though, athletes should consider it a privilege. I think most do, but as we all know, kids are not all the same. Most of them will make some mistakes along the way.
I am not sure if I agree.
Going to college and staying focused has nothing to do with becoming a pro later on, what does make a difference is talent. One can go to college, enjoy all it has to offer and go to the next level. One can go to college, stay completely focused and have no life outside of baseball and the classroom and not go to the next level. What usually does happen is that most realize that there is a slim chance of becoming a professional player and most begin to focus on their education, rather than the game. The game becomes a means to an end, which for most is getting some college paid for and earning a degree.
Being a successful college athlete, doesn't necessarily mean you will be a succesful pro athlete. That's why some don't find themselves on the radar screen, not because they enjoyed other activities at college. You see al lot of this in college pitching. People say, can't understand he always got people out, great ERA, yet for some reason they don't get drafted, or if they do it is as a lower pick. If you do talk to lots of college coaches and scouts as you claim, they should explain that to you. I know someone explained that to me one day when I saw a successful college pitcher not get drafted as a junior. I have also seen this with position players that break school records with HR, as well as pitchers with wins, etc. I have a friend whose son broke all time school records with wins, yet could not advance the lower levels of milb, and finally decided to return for his degree. All of these guys had to have remained focused in thier game because they were successful college players. I have also seen a state HS home run hitter not be able to produce HR's in the college game. This is just how it works.
In example Tim Tebow, he will if he already isn't on of the most successful college QB's I have seen, but there are many who beleive that he will never make it as a successful QB at the next level, because the college game and NFL are played differently, possibly another position may better suit him someday or it will take him a ling time to adapt to being a NFL QB.
One of the reasons why Sam Bradford will be in high demand as a QB and most likely be a first or second pick someday.
My philosophy is that if one wishes to focus solely on baseball, then begin your career after HS. Yes, there are many distractions in college. Some are good distractions and some are not. That's why coaches have rules, but it's not so that their players will go onto the next level, but so that while in college they remain eligible. Most coaches could really care less where you end up afterwards. Their job is to run a successful team and graduate players.
Going to college and staying focused has nothing to do with becoming a pro later on, what does make a difference is talent. One can go to college, enjoy all it has to offer and go to the next level. One can go to college, stay completely focused and have no life outside of baseball and the classroom and not go to the next level. What usually does happen is that most realize that there is a slim chance of becoming a professional player and most begin to focus on their education, rather than the game. The game becomes a means to an end, which for most is getting some college paid for and earning a degree.
Being a successful college athlete, doesn't necessarily mean you will be a succesful pro athlete. That's why some don't find themselves on the radar screen, not because they enjoyed other activities at college. You see al lot of this in college pitching. People say, can't understand he always got people out, great ERA, yet for some reason they don't get drafted, or if they do it is as a lower pick. If you do talk to lots of college coaches and scouts as you claim, they should explain that to you. I know someone explained that to me one day when I saw a successful college pitcher not get drafted as a junior. I have also seen this with position players that break school records with HR, as well as pitchers with wins, etc. I have a friend whose son broke all time school records with wins, yet could not advance the lower levels of milb, and finally decided to return for his degree. All of these guys had to have remained focused in thier game because they were successful college players. I have also seen a state HS home run hitter not be able to produce HR's in the college game. This is just how it works.
In example Tim Tebow, he will if he already isn't on of the most successful college QB's I have seen, but there are many who beleive that he will never make it as a successful QB at the next level, because the college game and NFL are played differently, possibly another position may better suit him someday or it will take him a ling time to adapt to being a NFL QB.
My philosophy is that if one wishes to focus solely on baseball, then begin your career after HS. Yes, there are many distractions in college. Some are good distractions and some are not. That's why coaches have rules, but it's not so that their players will go onto the next level, but so that while in college they remain eligible. Most coaches could really care less where you end up afterwards. Their job is to run a successful team and graduate players.
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
I do agree, though, athletes should consider it a privilege. I think most do, but as we all know, kids are not all the same. Most of them will make some mistakes along the way.
quote:tpm quote:
Going to college and staying focused has nothing to do with becoming a pro later on, what does make a difference is talent.
There may be exceptions to the rule, but you can have all the talent in the world, but unless you stay focused throughout, you will never realize your potential. IMHO
I realize that it is very hard for some to stay focused in college with all of the extra curricular activities however I also beleive that is inherent in your personality and part of your upbringing. Also, I do beleive that who coaches your son, his understanding that 17,18 year olds are kids is important. I am not in favor of coaches being too strict or those who don't care once you walk off of the field each day, there has to be a balance and those with lots of experience know how to do it well. I have also found that many kids once they get to school don't like the guy who recruited them and couldn't care less what he thinks he should or should not do in his off field hours. I do know that we brought up our kids with the understanding that, hey, I don't care if you like the person who is in a sense is in charge of you or not, you SHOW respect and that means you follow his rules, like it or not.
Kids are kids but most are made to understand there is a line drawn by their coaches and how far you can or cannot cross that line. If there are teams rules handed out by the coach, and they are consistantly broken, this shows a lack of respect for your coach, and those that depend on you for teh success of the team(your other teammates) and possibly yourself. Many kids have been brought up to beleive they can walk on water and very few have had any type of discipline imposed on them when younger.
Those that have a hard time handling these type of situations would not have done so wherever they went. Those that go off the deep end in college (drinking, drugs) can do it just as well anywhere else.
All kids mess up, hey even adults mess up, so I do agree we should not judge anyone. It's what you learn from the mistake that counts.
Kids are kids but most are made to understand there is a line drawn by their coaches and how far you can or cannot cross that line. If there are teams rules handed out by the coach, and they are consistantly broken, this shows a lack of respect for your coach, and those that depend on you for teh success of the team(your other teammates) and possibly yourself. Many kids have been brought up to beleive they can walk on water and very few have had any type of discipline imposed on them when younger.
Those that have a hard time handling these type of situations would not have done so wherever they went. Those that go off the deep end in college (drinking, drugs) can do it just as well anywhere else.
All kids mess up, hey even adults mess up, so I do agree we should not judge anyone. It's what you learn from the mistake that counts.
quote:I am not sure if I agree.
Going to college and staying focused has nothing to do with becoming a pro later on, what does make a difference is talent. One can go to college, enjoy all it has to offer and go to the next level. One can go to college, stay completely focused and have no life outside of baseball and the classroom and not go to the next level.
I'm pretty sure, TPM, that RZ1 was referring to focus in a broader way than just focus on academics and baseball. I believe focus has a LOT to do with advancing to the next level.
Focus, broadly construed, is the mechanism by which we turn talent into skill. Kind of like how a magnifying glass turns sunlight into a hot beam of light.
I think it is hugely important. The lack of it explains a lot of talented players who never get better.
Focus is not something that is a word that just relates to being successful in sports.
I can't do my job correctly if I am not focused when I walk through that door. Yet, when I walk out that door, I have a life and find a balance. I have priorities.
We all realize that focusing is important, but it means different things to different people.
This has nothing to to with kids messing up, more like growing up, which is what the original post was about, a young player making a mistake. This just happens sometimes. Often times, those that mess up become better focused later on (Hamilton for example).
I know some players in milb who do not want to get involved in relationships as they feel they could lose focus on moving ahead, yet others find balance and can move forward in that situation. There are some kids who can go to college and be involved in other activities and stay focused or lose their way.
Not sure if the word focus is appropriate or priorities would be.
JMO.
I can't do my job correctly if I am not focused when I walk through that door. Yet, when I walk out that door, I have a life and find a balance. I have priorities.
We all realize that focusing is important, but it means different things to different people.
This has nothing to to with kids messing up, more like growing up, which is what the original post was about, a young player making a mistake. This just happens sometimes. Often times, those that mess up become better focused later on (Hamilton for example).
I know some players in milb who do not want to get involved in relationships as they feel they could lose focus on moving ahead, yet others find balance and can move forward in that situation. There are some kids who can go to college and be involved in other activities and stay focused or lose their way.
Not sure if the word focus is appropriate or priorities would be.
JMO.
They all make mistakes. None of them are perfect. I could careless if you think your kid is perfect. I am here to inform you they are not. Some make more mistakes than others. Some make fewer but actually get caught. But they all make mistakes. Some are capable of making the adjustment to being on their own and learning how to focus in a new environment. Some have to get hit in the head with a 2 by 4 first.
Just because a kid gets in trouble , makes some bad decisions , does not mean they are a bad kid. It just means they are a kid and they made some bad decisions. When ever I hear about something like this I feel bad for the family and the kid. I pull for the kid to bounce back and learn from the situation. I do not judge them because I am human as well and I made some bad decisions too. We all need some help sometimes and we all need people to stand behind us in tough times.
Every kid does not go into college and adapt well. Some just struggle and have to take a step back and regroup. Some make stupid decisions and have to pay the price for them. I am pulling for Kyle to bounce back. I feel bad for him and his family. And I also feel sorry for FSU and the loss to their program. Good luck Kyle. Learn from this and bounce back. The only thing you have proven son is you are human.
You can have great focus 364 days 23 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds of the year. And you can lose focus for one second and the rest of the year will never matter. Good luck Kyle.
Just because a kid gets in trouble , makes some bad decisions , does not mean they are a bad kid. It just means they are a kid and they made some bad decisions. When ever I hear about something like this I feel bad for the family and the kid. I pull for the kid to bounce back and learn from the situation. I do not judge them because I am human as well and I made some bad decisions too. We all need some help sometimes and we all need people to stand behind us in tough times.
Every kid does not go into college and adapt well. Some just struggle and have to take a step back and regroup. Some make stupid decisions and have to pay the price for them. I am pulling for Kyle to bounce back. I feel bad for him and his family. And I also feel sorry for FSU and the loss to their program. Good luck Kyle. Learn from this and bounce back. The only thing you have proven son is you are human.
You can have great focus 364 days 23 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds of the year. And you can lose focus for one second and the rest of the year will never matter. Good luck Kyle.
quote:You can have great focus 364 days 23 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds of the year. And you can lose focus for one second and the rest of the year will never matter. Good luck Kyle.
I'm not so sure there doing the right thing, By leaving the School you intented to and wanted to be a Student Athlete at.
Was there any other alternative??
Could the player have stayed and worked at getting his grades up thru the spring?
I don't believe in cutting and running.
You try and finish what you started.
EH
Was there any other alternative??
Could the player have stayed and worked at getting his grades up thru the spring?
I don't believe in cutting and running.
You try and finish what you started.
EH
I am not sure if what happened to Long was a lack of focus, but most likely something that happens to lots of players, we just don't talk about it much. We probably don't know the whole story, so best be that the discussion is over and done.
Fact is that many of your kids will find that when they go off to college, priorities change, some are good and some are not. Not everyone has the same priorities.
Distractions over take priorities, which can make one lose focus. A player may get involved with too much drinking, drugs that makes one lose focus in athletics. One is so busy dating every coed in sight, that may make them lose focus in athletics. One falls in love and wants to be with that person 24/7, that can make one lose focus in athletics. Some become very heavily involved with their majors, that may make them lose focus in athletics. So losing focus, IMO, doesn't always bring negative conotation.
I'll be the first to admit that my player was a bit distracted
when he first went off to college, but he never lost focus of what he wanted to do. Good student, good player, he had to learn to set his priorities to keep him focused. It sometimes takes some bit of time to do that, it's called growing up. I think that those college distractions helped him to become a more responsible adult. JMO.
As far as priveledge, it is a priveledge to play college sports, but once you begin acting priveledged that can get in the way of your priorities. You do things thinking because you are special, you can get away with what you might have done in HS. It doesn't always work that way. Some mess up everyday and nothing happens, some do something just once and get caught, this happens all of the time. If my son or his teammates acted priveledged they got an invite to the coaches office. No one was ever better or more priveledged than anyone else. That was just the way it was.
What gets me is that most here would never admit that their kids messed up about anything, that might make us look bad as parents, but in reality it has nothing to do with parenting, it's just kids being kids.
Fact is that many of your kids will find that when they go off to college, priorities change, some are good and some are not. Not everyone has the same priorities.
Distractions over take priorities, which can make one lose focus. A player may get involved with too much drinking, drugs that makes one lose focus in athletics. One is so busy dating every coed in sight, that may make them lose focus in athletics. One falls in love and wants to be with that person 24/7, that can make one lose focus in athletics. Some become very heavily involved with their majors, that may make them lose focus in athletics. So losing focus, IMO, doesn't always bring negative conotation.
I'll be the first to admit that my player was a bit distracted
when he first went off to college, but he never lost focus of what he wanted to do. Good student, good player, he had to learn to set his priorities to keep him focused. It sometimes takes some bit of time to do that, it's called growing up. I think that those college distractions helped him to become a more responsible adult. JMO.As far as priveledge, it is a priveledge to play college sports, but once you begin acting priveledged that can get in the way of your priorities. You do things thinking because you are special, you can get away with what you might have done in HS. It doesn't always work that way. Some mess up everyday and nothing happens, some do something just once and get caught, this happens all of the time. If my son or his teammates acted priveledged they got an invite to the coaches office. No one was ever better or more priveledged than anyone else. That was just the way it was.
What gets me is that most here would never admit that their kids messed up about anything, that might make us look bad as parents, but in reality it has nothing to do with parenting, it's just kids being kids.
Does anyone know of a person who is focused at all times in their pursuit of a dream? I doubt it, I assume because dreams are long term and our lives are real time so something has to give once in a while. Pink Floyd described it best as 'A Momentary Lapse Of Reason' and as humans we are all guilty from time to time. What counts is how we rebound from the "bump" and our "real" commitment to the dream. Maybe "focus-recovery" is just as important.
MY Dad used to always tell me "it is not the mistake,it is how you handle it"
TPM
Who are you to state that most here would never admit that their kids messed up??????
Sit down sister and relax---do not judge others and state what they would or would not do !!!
TPM
Who are you to state that most here would never admit that their kids messed up??????
Sit down sister and relax---do not judge others and state what they would or would not do !!!
quote:What gets me is that most here would never admit that their kids messed up about anything, that might make us look bad as parents, but in reality it has nothing to do with parenting, it's just kids being kids.
But there not kids anymore, And sometimes you have to let them grow up.
Bringing them home everytime they make a mistake, Is not allowing them to get Focused.
EH
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
MY Dad used to always tell me "it is not the mistake,it is how you handle it"
TPM
Who are you to state that most here would never admit that their kids messed up??????
Sit down sister and relax---do not judge others and state what they would or would not do !!!
Don't ever call me sister. You sit down and relax, instead of continually ruining a post, why don't you ADD something of value.
My comment was about us discussing what happened to another player and not understanding about staying focused, it happens to everyone.
By the way, didn't I say what your fahter did, you learn from your mistakes and how you handle it is important?
READ though it mister.
Wait I take that back, call me sister all you want, quote me all you want, just goes to show everyone how you don't follow rules, love to bait, love to start trouble.
Maybe as Kyles parents they feel its in the best interest to keep him closer to home. We dont know anything about this family and its dynamics. Maybe because of the bad publicity for the school they puled him out. Its their family and their decision.No body understands until they have walked in some one elses shoes.
Any kid could lose focus at anytime, they are still learning an ggrowing.
Drinking goes on at almost every college campus, big time drinking, and other things as well. try to have a very open dialogue with your kids. Just shaking your finger at them and saying dont drink, its bad for you isnt enough.There is a lot of peer pressure as well for these young people.
To me I teach my kids not just about not drinking, but if they do how to be safe.Because for most of our kids they will try it and those that say their kids never will, might be surprised.Have open dialogues so that your kids arent afraid to talk to you about whats going on with their peers.My kids talk to me about everything, and it stays with me.
I think the more open you are , the less they will go crazy when they do get to college.
I read that Kyle Long was just moving his car,knew he shouldnt of been driving and drinking. His dad said he shouldnt of even done that, kids make poor choices, esp under the influence.
Parents should share stories like this with their kids so they see the consequences.Its tough growing up, and fitting in esp. on athletic teams. The most imp. is that they are safe and dont ruin theirs or someone elses lives.
Any kid could lose focus at anytime, they are still learning an ggrowing.
Drinking goes on at almost every college campus, big time drinking, and other things as well. try to have a very open dialogue with your kids. Just shaking your finger at them and saying dont drink, its bad for you isnt enough.There is a lot of peer pressure as well for these young people.
To me I teach my kids not just about not drinking, but if they do how to be safe.Because for most of our kids they will try it and those that say their kids never will, might be surprised.Have open dialogues so that your kids arent afraid to talk to you about whats going on with their peers.My kids talk to me about everything, and it stays with me.
I think the more open you are , the less they will go crazy when they do get to college.
I read that Kyle Long was just moving his car,knew he shouldnt of been driving and drinking. His dad said he shouldnt of even done that, kids make poor choices, esp under the influence.
Parents should share stories like this with their kids so they see the consequences.Its tough growing up, and fitting in esp. on athletic teams. The most imp. is that they are safe and dont ruin theirs or someone elses lives.
I am focused, just wanted to talk about generalities.
WHOA!!!!!!! 
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Oh, wow! "Whoa" is right!
With a whole lot of "woe" thrown in, too.
Wow. What a shame.
Oh, wow! "Whoa" is right!
With a whole lot of "woe" thrown in, too.
Wow. What a shame.
I'll second that and add an OMG.
With that salary, couldn't he afford cabfare?
Sounds almost as bad as when a certain MLB manager got caught with a DUI.
With that salary, couldn't he afford cabfare?
Sounds almost as bad as when a certain MLB manager got caught with a DUI.
This makes 3 strikes you're out for me having any respect for Coach Garrido ... other than being a good baseball coach.
Strike 1 was one time I sat close to the Texas dugout (that's easy to do if you attend games at KSU or KU folks); I heard enough F bombs to last me the rest of my life.
Strike 2 was the ESPN doc
Strike 3 is drinking and driving.
Good coach: Yep, one of the best.
Good man? Not in my book.
Strike 1 was one time I sat close to the Texas dugout (that's easy to do if you attend games at KSU or KU folks); I heard enough F bombs to last me the rest of my life.
Strike 2 was the ESPN doc
Strike 3 is drinking and driving.
Good coach: Yep, one of the best.
Good man? Not in my book.
quote Coach May:
"They all make mistakes. None of them are perfect. I could careless if you think your kid is perfect. I am here to inform you they are not. Some make more mistakes than others. Some make fewer but actually get caught. But they all make mistakes. Some are capable of making the adjustment to being on their own and learning how to focus in a new environment. Some have to get hit in the head with a 2 by 4 first."
I agree. I think sometimes we forget that our baseball players are kids or young adults, not baseball androids. They do have other interests and they need distractions from baseball. Drinking, while sometimes dangerous and risky, is part of the college culture. It was 30 years ago and it is now.
Kids cannot eat, drink and sleep baseball like a robot. I sometimes forget this and I'm sure others do also. IMO we the parents think about our kids baseball lives more than they do. My son talks more about this afternoon's rec basketball game than the baseball workouts he attends the other 6 days.
As they get older and the drinking, pot and *** become more accessible some, if not a lot of them, will partake. Didn't we years ago? We just have to trust that how we raised them the past 15-20 years has ingrained a sense of responsibility that kicks in at the right time.
All kids should be lucky enough to have the supportive parents it seems like Kyle Long has.
"They all make mistakes. None of them are perfect. I could careless if you think your kid is perfect. I am here to inform you they are not. Some make more mistakes than others. Some make fewer but actually get caught. But they all make mistakes. Some are capable of making the adjustment to being on their own and learning how to focus in a new environment. Some have to get hit in the head with a 2 by 4 first."
I agree. I think sometimes we forget that our baseball players are kids or young adults, not baseball androids. They do have other interests and they need distractions from baseball. Drinking, while sometimes dangerous and risky, is part of the college culture. It was 30 years ago and it is now.
Kids cannot eat, drink and sleep baseball like a robot. I sometimes forget this and I'm sure others do also. IMO we the parents think about our kids baseball lives more than they do. My son talks more about this afternoon's rec basketball game than the baseball workouts he attends the other 6 days.
As they get older and the drinking, pot and *** become more accessible some, if not a lot of them, will partake. Didn't we years ago? We just have to trust that how we raised them the past 15-20 years has ingrained a sense of responsibility that kicks in at the right time.
All kids should be lucky enough to have the supportive parents it seems like Kyle Long has.
Thats great when you see that. And I still will reach down and help those that need it. No one is perfect. We all fall short from time to time.
quote:Originally posted by OLDSLUGGER8:
In my opinion, kids who liked to party it up in high school carry that over to college more often than not. Kids who had other interests in high school other than drinking carried that over to college more often than not.
Drinking and partying are not interests, they are distractions that are, more or less a fact of young adulthood. Those who want to ignore this fact are probably going to be worse off than those who address and discuss it.
Because someone has a part time job or is involved in community activities does not make them immune from these distractions. Sometimes people hide behind these noble causes.
I was a World Class Party man in college and even before that. Then while serving in the Army I became the world's biggest thrill seeker. I was very distracted and had a lot to learn. Like to think I learned a lot.
I don't think you can find many young kids who are going to stay straight as an arrow at all times. Most are going to experiment once they have the freedom to do so. Maybe it's important to know that they might experiment and give them some good advice based on that. Not sure I've ever seen a perfect child, but I suppose they exist somewhere.
I don't think you can find many young kids who are going to stay straight as an arrow at all times. Most are going to experiment once they have the freedom to do so. Maybe it's important to know that they might experiment and give them some good advice based on that. Not sure I've ever seen a perfect child, but I suppose they exist somewhere.
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
I was a World Class Party man in college and even before that.
PG I'll bet our paths have crossed somewhere
I was very focused...............my son was very focused..........the difference in us was which end of the teeter-toter you were sitting on.
I was concerned when he was in HS and remember once saying to him......
You don't go to all the parties, you're always home early, you have friends who are girls but no girl friend, our phone seldom rings, do you know that you are missing what HS is about?
His response.
"Maybe they're missing it."
nuff said