I have gotten letters from numerous notable DI colleges in the past few weeks, but none from Florida State. My friend told me that they only recruit out of their camp, is this true?
thanx.
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naw, fsu coaches attends east coast pro showcase, area code games, team one, and perfect game showcases for the food.
That is interesting. My son also has letters from as far away as Texas, South Carolina and Tennessee...but live 2 1/2 hours away from FSU. Same here...no letters.
baseballstud(quite a name 
) and eaglefan, same thing happened to my #1
son-not the first call or letter from FSU or Florida. Not sure what they
use as criteria. At any rate,he picked up a Win against the Gators Tuesday night and his roommate-who also received no interest from either school-shut them down last night. I'll bet they're having second thoughts now.
) and eaglefan, same thing happened to my #1son-not the first call or letter from FSU or Florida. Not sure what they
use as criteria. At any rate,he picked up a Win against the Gators Tuesday night and his roommate-who also received no interest from either school-shut them down last night. I'll bet they're having second thoughts now.
We live in California and our son has received two letters from Florida State and four from Miami. No clue what they use as criteria for sending letters out, sorry we couldn't help.
My 2006 is in the same boat- in UF's backyard, but is not even getting a look or questionaire. He's getting interest (March phone call) from very good out of state baseball schools. Maybe the the big FL schools feel they can enter the game late because of the Bright Futures scholarships keeping FLorida kids instate. Miami has been in contact, but nothing from FSU either.
My advice is why wait? There is nothing to stop a player from contacting the college. The Florida State Baseball site has the e-mail of the head coach clearly listed. Be proactive and let him know you are interested in their program and provide dates when they can see you play, either now or during the summer, also list contact numbers for your coaches. The answer might be no, but then again you may be just the player they are looking for! You'll never know if you don't take the first step. Good Luck!
It probably does have a lot to do with the Bright Futures Program. The majority of these kids (in Florida) can get at least a 75% academic scholarship on merely grades alone.
Evidently, they feel they can afford to wait.
Evidently, they feel they can afford to wait.
Unfortunately, it seems UF recruits mostly from Jax, Tampa and Orlando. They don't get much further from home than that.
Don't know what it will mean or lead to but my son gets one a week and we're not in Fla.
My son is a FL resident who had full tuition paid by Bright Futures.
Never once got a letter from FSU.
FSU very rarely goes a long distance for signing players, check out the roster.
Never once got a letter from FSU.
FSU very rarely goes a long distance for signing players, check out the roster.
This may sound like a stupid question by may I ask why, just because you live in the State of Florida, you assume that FSU should be contacting you?
TR,
I read your response (question) several days ago and have been thinking about it since.
While no kid has the right to think that he "deserves" attention from any one school, it seems that in some situations it is really a matter of common sense and "smart recruiting".
I have no knowledge of the talent of the player for whom this original topic was started. However, I, like TigerPawMom, do have first hand experience of the recruiting process with my son. My son was getting all sorts of mail from hi-profile baseball programs across the US (Stanford, Miami, Tulane, LSU, Clemson, yada...yada)but nothing from FSU or UF. (UF got in the picture VERY late in the game). And, yes, I know that mail means nothing.
We'll never know how many of those programs would have made actual offers (although several did) because my son chose to go with his childhood favorite and not take any other visits.
But my point is...GOOD GOLLY....some schools just know how to recruit. And personally I don't think FSU and UF are very good at it. I know you can make VERY GOOD arguments that I am wrong based soley on the fact that both FSU and UF have outstanding programs. But I keep wondering how much better they would be if they could "show a little love" to more kids earlier in the process.
I read your response (question) several days ago and have been thinking about it since.
While no kid has the right to think that he "deserves" attention from any one school, it seems that in some situations it is really a matter of common sense and "smart recruiting".
I have no knowledge of the talent of the player for whom this original topic was started. However, I, like TigerPawMom, do have first hand experience of the recruiting process with my son. My son was getting all sorts of mail from hi-profile baseball programs across the US (Stanford, Miami, Tulane, LSU, Clemson, yada...yada)but nothing from FSU or UF. (UF got in the picture VERY late in the game). And, yes, I know that mail means nothing.
We'll never know how many of those programs would have made actual offers (although several did) because my son chose to go with his childhood favorite and not take any other visits.
But my point is...GOOD GOLLY....some schools just know how to recruit. And personally I don't think FSU and UF are very good at it. I know you can make VERY GOOD arguments that I am wrong based soley on the fact that both FSU and UF have outstanding programs. But I keep wondering how much better they would be if they could "show a little love" to more kids earlier in the process.
Ace, I agree completely. i have followed the FSU and UF programs for the last couple of years and have scratched my head at the attitude of the schools in recruiting. I do feel that lately UF has improved. jmo. I think the schools feel like with the bright futures program and being in Fl that enough quality talent will come to them and that they do not have to work real hard to recruit. That is probably true to some extent, but I also wonder who they lose by not showing a little "love" early in the process. It would make sense to me because the recruiting game is so ego driven. Mike Martin is old school.
We actually stayed away from FSU becaus i have a friend who was an all-american pitcher for him and went on to the pros, and then the bigs, who said some negative things in regards to pitchers health and the program, so we avoided the issue.
We actually stayed away from FSU becaus i have a friend who was an all-american pitcher for him and went on to the pros, and then the bigs, who said some negative things in regards to pitchers health and the program, so we avoided the issue.
TR,
I don't know the answer to your question, however why WOULDN'T a Florida school recruit a top ranked HS player and one that was at one point ranked #6 in the state? Not even a letter.
My only assumption was that there was no need for a pitcher, who most probably would sit most of his freshman year and could play somewhere else. Or, like I have heard, Coach likes his players to live close to home. Also, South Florida is recruited mostly by Miami and UF, leaving the northern kids to FSU.
I think Ace and Bighit understand the situation.
My original response was to the original poster, and those that followed from Florida.
I believe that attending the camp is a key issue, they like you to come to them.
I don't know the answer to your question, however why WOULDN'T a Florida school recruit a top ranked HS player and one that was at one point ranked #6 in the state? Not even a letter.
My only assumption was that there was no need for a pitcher, who most probably would sit most of his freshman year and could play somewhere else. Or, like I have heard, Coach likes his players to live close to home. Also, South Florida is recruited mostly by Miami and UF, leaving the northern kids to FSU.
I think Ace and Bighit understand the situation.
My original response was to the original poster, and those that followed from Florida.
I believe that attending the camp is a key issue, they like you to come to them.
Perhaps a "gentlemans agreement" is in effect
Ok on this end, but does it have to be a GENTLEMAN'S agreement? 
First hand. The FSU RC actually tells campers in an address that only campers are recruited. Son went once after 9th grade and did not get a letter or a call. He was recruited at UF however, along with ALOT of righties. Some schools are big letter writers, some are not. FSU may not be. Getting a letter and getting recruited being different things.
I know two FSU recruits, rostered this year. One I know is a walk on, no baseball money.
Plenty of good players will pay their way.
I know two FSU recruits, rostered this year. One I know is a walk on, no baseball money.
Plenty of good players will pay their way.
I doubt there is, was, or will be any gentlemens agreement. A starting FSU infielder Ryne Malone went to high school in.........Gainesville. How did he ever get out of town?
FYI,
Watching Mike Martin baseball on Sun channel.
He publicly states he recruits close to home, too much talent to go looking elsewhere. His philosophy is too much talent in the area to let them get away.
Also likes the close family support system.
Watching Mike Martin baseball on Sun channel.
He publicly states he recruits close to home, too much talent to go looking elsewhere. His philosophy is too much talent in the area to let them get away.
Also likes the close family support system.
TRhit,
no... just because i live in Florida doesnt mean i think they should contact me, but i dont understand why they wouldnt if UF, UM, and FAU have. If it were up to me, I would be going there. Unfortunately i havent gotten anything. I was just curious.
no... just because i live in Florida doesnt mean i think they should contact me, but i dont understand why they wouldnt if UF, UM, and FAU have. If it were up to me, I would be going there. Unfortunately i havent gotten anything. I was just curious.
baseballstud
Perhaps you do not fit their needs for the next recruiting class---all too often people think they are being ignored but the college may not have to fill the position you play
Perhaps you do not fit their needs for the next recruiting class---all too often people think they are being ignored but the college may not have to fill the position you play
According to both rosters, FSU and U of F, recruit the whole state. They both have players
from Miami and Ft Lauderdale area as well as a number from Ft. Myers, Port Charlotte, Tampa, Central Florida as well as outside the state. Funny how Malone went to FSU from Gainesville and
Gavin Dickey, UF, is from Tallahassee.
Last year FSU's top player was from Westminster Academy-Ft Lauderdale, Right under Miami's nose.
Tommy Wynn, freshman pitcher for Gators, is also from Westminster.
As far as recruiting from camps-Jonathon Lucroy went to a Gator camp and they told him they would
"be in touch". Never heard from them. He is now,as a freshman, starting catcher and leading hitter for Louisiana-Lafayette. Right DAD04? Not too shabby of a team.
No rhyme or reason
from Miami and Ft Lauderdale area as well as a number from Ft. Myers, Port Charlotte, Tampa, Central Florida as well as outside the state. Funny how Malone went to FSU from Gainesville and
Gavin Dickey, UF, is from Tallahassee.
Last year FSU's top player was from Westminster Academy-Ft Lauderdale, Right under Miami's nose.
Tommy Wynn, freshman pitcher for Gators, is also from Westminster.
As far as recruiting from camps-Jonathon Lucroy went to a Gator camp and they told him they would
"be in touch". Never heard from them. He is now,as a freshman, starting catcher and leading hitter for Louisiana-Lafayette. Right DAD04? Not too shabby of a team.
No rhyme or reason
Lucroy is currently 6th in hitting in the Sunbelt Conference batting .372 with 13 doubles and is batting over .800 with RISP. His team is 45-14.
http://baseball.sunbeltsports.org/x/article/3743
I'm sure he'd struggle in the SEC though.
Jonathon was considered a little undersized coming out of high school, although he's now 6-1 200 lb.
It may be no coincedence the Gator recruiting coordinator is a very large man and the three freshman catchers they have average about 6-2 220#, along with the fact they have two very strong soph. catchers. The Orlando catcher they signed last fall is huge also 6-3 230#.
That doesn't change the fact Lucroy was one of the best hitting catchers in the state in high school and now continues in college.
The Gators will have 6 frontline catchers next fall unless someone leaves unexpectedly.
http://baseball.sunbeltsports.org/x/article/3743
I'm sure he'd struggle in the SEC though.
Jonathon was considered a little undersized coming out of high school, although he's now 6-1 200 lb.
It may be no coincedence the Gator recruiting coordinator is a very large man and the three freshman catchers they have average about 6-2 220#, along with the fact they have two very strong soph. catchers. The Orlando catcher they signed last fall is huge also 6-3 230#.
That doesn't change the fact Lucroy was one of the best hitting catchers in the state in high school and now continues in college.
The Gators will have 6 frontline catchers next fall unless someone leaves unexpectedly.
Dad04,
Wow, that's alot considering Jeroloman is their #1 catcher, has been, but will probably leave next year.
Yes, recruiting coordinator is a BIG man, and so is his ego! JMO
Wow, that's alot considering Jeroloman is their #1 catcher, has been, but will probably leave next year.
Yes, recruiting coordinator is a BIG man, and so is his ego! JMO
TPM
That is alot of catchers. There is only one ball. Next fall they have Jr. Matt LaPorta, Jr. Brian Jeroloman, Soph. Brett Bentley, Soph. Bryson Barber, Soph. Teddy Foster, Freshman Cody Neer, AND a Sr. rostered bullpen catcher. A couple of them can play corner infield, as Laporta does now.
That is alot of catchers. There is only one ball. Next fall they have Jr. Matt LaPorta, Jr. Brian Jeroloman, Soph. Brett Bentley, Soph. Bryson Barber, Soph. Teddy Foster, Freshman Cody Neer, AND a Sr. rostered bullpen catcher. A couple of them can play corner infield, as Laporta does now.
FSU brought in a kid mid-year (January-ish) from around Chicago. He went to camp as a youngster and contacted the coaches when he was old enough to consider playing college ball.
He verbally committed during his Jr. season and skipped his Sr. year to enroll early.
So, I guess, being proactive and having an existing relationship both help.
He verbally committed during his Jr. season and skipped his Sr. year to enroll early.
So, I guess, being proactive and having an existing relationship both help.
ratboy
Not knocking what the young man did in foregoing hi HS senior year, it was he and his families decision, but losing your senior year in HS with all kinds of good things perplexes me. Does it make sense to pass this up so you can start but 14 games and play in a total of 39 games ?
Could not have the boy played his final HS season and then go to FSU--I ask to be corrected if I am wrong but I understand that the boy is not even on the post season roster.
Like I am saying I dont agree with it but that was their decision AND BY NO MEANS DOES IT REFLECT ON THE FSU RECRUITING POLICY!!!
Not knocking what the young man did in foregoing hi HS senior year, it was he and his families decision, but losing your senior year in HS with all kinds of good things perplexes me. Does it make sense to pass this up so you can start but 14 games and play in a total of 39 games ?
Could not have the boy played his final HS season and then go to FSU--I ask to be corrected if I am wrong but I understand that the boy is not even on the post season roster.
Like I am saying I dont agree with it but that was their decision AND BY NO MEANS DOES IT REFLECT ON THE FSU RECRUITING POLICY!!!
One of the points that I have noticed about the recruiting of Florida and Florida State is this: If you want to go to their schools you have better be playing summer ball in the state of Florida where they can see you. If you even go to a neighboring state like Georgia those schools will probably go onto a player from in-state.
Dad04 makes a great point on the number of players that Florida recruits. They just keep bringing in talent to keep them from going to other Florida or SEC schools. He pointed out the catching situation. They have promised a senior this year he will be starting in CF nest year and a junior commited as well for the same position in two years. WOW.
Florida has signed 12 student-athletes to a National Letter of Intent. This group includes OF Chris Petrie (Jacksonville, Fla./The Bolles School/Lake City C.C.), INF/OF Avery Barnes (Gainesville, Fla./Santa Fe H.S.), RHP Michael Allen (Jacksonville, Fla./Arlington Country Day School), RHP Patrick Keating (Harrisburg, Ill./Harrisburg), LHP J.K. LaCoste (Jacksonville, Fla./Paxon School for Advanced Studies), Jarrod Langlois (Jacksonville, Fla./Bartram Trail), OF John Matulia (Eustis, Fla./Eustis), OF Andrew McCutchen (Fort Meade, Fla./Fort Meade), C Cody Neer (Orlando, Fla./Edgewater), INF Clayton Pisani (Naples, Fla./Barron Collier) and RHP Chas Spottswood (Key West, Fla./Key West) and INF Drew Thompson (Jupiter, Fla./Jupiter).
They overrecruit and promise kids the world, but give books plus Bright Futures money. They take kids off the market and then sit them.
The FSU coaches are much more player friendly. They recruit the state well and do use their camps, but generally recruit from summer teams in this state. They are a program that if you are playing on a top travel team - you should have your coach contact them.
Also, both schools recruit the Perfect Game events around the country; especially the WWBA and World Showcase events.
Dad04 makes a great point on the number of players that Florida recruits. They just keep bringing in talent to keep them from going to other Florida or SEC schools. He pointed out the catching situation. They have promised a senior this year he will be starting in CF nest year and a junior commited as well for the same position in two years. WOW.
Florida has signed 12 student-athletes to a National Letter of Intent. This group includes OF Chris Petrie (Jacksonville, Fla./The Bolles School/Lake City C.C.), INF/OF Avery Barnes (Gainesville, Fla./Santa Fe H.S.), RHP Michael Allen (Jacksonville, Fla./Arlington Country Day School), RHP Patrick Keating (Harrisburg, Ill./Harrisburg), LHP J.K. LaCoste (Jacksonville, Fla./Paxon School for Advanced Studies), Jarrod Langlois (Jacksonville, Fla./Bartram Trail), OF John Matulia (Eustis, Fla./Eustis), OF Andrew McCutchen (Fort Meade, Fla./Fort Meade), C Cody Neer (Orlando, Fla./Edgewater), INF Clayton Pisani (Naples, Fla./Barron Collier) and RHP Chas Spottswood (Key West, Fla./Key West) and INF Drew Thompson (Jupiter, Fla./Jupiter).
They overrecruit and promise kids the world, but give books plus Bright Futures money. They take kids off the market and then sit them.
The FSU coaches are much more player friendly. They recruit the state well and do use their camps, but generally recruit from summer teams in this state. They are a program that if you are playing on a top travel team - you should have your coach contact them.
Also, both schools recruit the Perfect Game events around the country; especially the WWBA and World Showcase events.
I have to tend to agree with the above post.
Bob is right. 6 frontline catchers is 3 or 4 too many. All the Florida recruits think they won't get caught in the number crunch, yet someone has to. Their roster has ballooned to 40 yet only so many, 25 I think, can be on the conference roster and the playoffs. They sign kids because they can.
TR - To clarify a couple of points. The boy is on their post-season roster although he has only seen one at bat. The Florida State coaches called him and asked him to give up his senior season, not the other way around. After giving up his senior year in high school (the best time of my son's life so far) he ended up competing for the right field spot and eventually losing it to another freshman. Where this young man goes from here I do not know. His father is a frequent poster and I hope he comes on this thread. I feel that he could tell people far more about FSU recruiting since he has lived it.
Benchwarmer,
Someone correct me if I am wrong, I do believe the dad is an alumni.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, I do believe the dad is an alumni.
Yes he is an alum. The boys mother also attended there. That is why I would like to hear their take on the FSU recruiting due to their first hand knowledge.
FSU's recruiting has no rhyme or reason, they were like bi-polar when they recruited me. Made and offer, then like a week later took it back.They play a lot of mind games, they also dont give out a lot of scholarship money. So i wouldnt be concerned if they didnt recruit you.....besides...alabama is better, ROLL TIDE! haha
FSU is a dream school.
The Nole recruiting coaches are a breath of fresh air.
My son and the family could not be happier with our decision. Yes, the coaches committed to him early (after his sophomore year at camp). During the fall, there were 2 serious injury's to key player's, both of whom have now fully recovered. They asked if he would consider coming early because they admired his leadership and maturity.
He has played in 40 games and has been playing less lately because of the very strong play of others.
He is and has been on the roster all year.
He and his teamates are 2 wins away from Omaha.
Go to [seminoles.com] read about this team, read his bio and ask your boy's if they would like to be part of such a team.
Mike Martin was quoted today as saying this is the most enjoyable group of young men that he has coached. My son, his teamates, especially his senior room mate's and his sophomore room mate, are very proud of that.
By the way, his Oak Park and River Forest High School teamates are on thier way to a possible state title.
My son and our family look forward to the future of Florida State Baseball.
TRhit....mind your own business and get your facts straight. That you are perplexed does not surprise me. That you question OUR decision is out of line. What you "understand" is wrong..... and it could easily have been checked out. That is both inexcusable and mean spirited.
The Nole recruiting coaches are a breath of fresh air.
My son and the family could not be happier with our decision. Yes, the coaches committed to him early (after his sophomore year at camp). During the fall, there were 2 serious injury's to key player's, both of whom have now fully recovered. They asked if he would consider coming early because they admired his leadership and maturity.
He has played in 40 games and has been playing less lately because of the very strong play of others.
He is and has been on the roster all year.
He and his teamates are 2 wins away from Omaha.
Go to [seminoles.com] read about this team, read his bio and ask your boy's if they would like to be part of such a team.
Mike Martin was quoted today as saying this is the most enjoyable group of young men that he has coached. My son, his teamates, especially his senior room mate's and his sophomore room mate, are very proud of that.
By the way, his Oak Park and River Forest High School teamates are on thier way to a possible state title.
My son and our family look forward to the future of Florida State Baseball.
TRhit....mind your own business and get your facts straight. That you are perplexed does not surprise me. That you question OUR decision is out of line. What you "understand" is wrong..... and it could easily have been checked out. That is both inexcusable and mean spirited.
Soxnole,
Well said and best of luck to your son and his team. You certainly have a right to be proud. The future certainly looks bright.
Well said and best of luck to your son and his team. You certainly have a right to be proud. The future certainly looks bright.
Soxnole - Thanks for "stepping to the plate" on this subject. You more than anyone on this site know about the FSU recruiting scene and what it takes to get to your dream school. I wish Ruairi all the luck in the world as he continues pursuing his goals.
If I were a player and I lived in FL and were recruited by FSU or UF I would be hard pressed to find better baseball programs. The state of Florida is a baseball mecca. My son's team just played in the Tallahassee regional and finished second to a very good FSU team in NCAA regional play. We had a great time. FSU has very good fan support and their fans are the most organized and orchestrated of any I’ve seen in the past three years. FSU is a GREAT program! Like any great program there will be players that make concessions, and sometimes in my opinion mistakes, just to be part of a great program. That is not the fault of the coaches or the programs but rather a product of their success.
Fungo
Fungo
Fungo,
I am not disputing their program, they have a great program,great fans, great facilities.
Some of us in FL just do not understand their recruiting. However, after seeing an interview on TV with Mike Martin, he did explain he likes to recruit very close to home.
The original poster was questioning why he never got a letter from USF living in FL. Living here in South Florida, I personally know of only one player who was ever signed, quite a few years ago.
Obviously, they look for the best talent in their area and north of them. Once in a while there is an exception to the rule. If you are familiar with FL recruiting, USF stays close to home, UM likes southern FL and UF takes from all areas within the state.
You have a pm.
I am not disputing their program, they have a great program,great fans, great facilities.
Some of us in FL just do not understand their recruiting. However, after seeing an interview on TV with Mike Martin, he did explain he likes to recruit very close to home.
The original poster was questioning why he never got a letter from USF living in FL. Living here in South Florida, I personally know of only one player who was ever signed, quite a few years ago.
Obviously, they look for the best talent in their area and north of them. Once in a while there is an exception to the rule. If you are familiar with FL recruiting, USF stays close to home, UM likes southern FL and UF takes from all areas within the state.
You have a pm.