help a canadain with JUCO

Conky,
Here is the NJCAA page which has the Eligibility Guide and the Prospective Student Athlete Guide.

From the latter:
Students must be a high school graduate or must have received a high school equivalency diploma or have been certified as having passed a national test such as the General Education Development Test (GED). Non-high school graduates can establish eligibility by completing one term of college work having passed twelve credits with a 1.75 GPA or higher. This term must be taken after the student's high school class has graduated.

So from an athletic point of view, the requirements are pretty relaxed compared to the NCAA.

However, for a student coming from out of state and out of country, there may be additional requirements. That would vary from school to school.

Conky,

Welcome the the HS Baseball Web! I'm in Minnesota, so we are almost neighbors.

In the U.S., different JUCOs (sometimes called community colleges) have different entrance requirements.

There are some that offer "open enrollment" meaning that you only need to have graduated from high school. There are other JUCOs which require specific courses and minimum GPAs. For most of them, you can start to explore the entrance requirements on their websites - look for a link for Prospective Students or Admissions. If you don't see what you are looking for, send an email to the Admissions office or call them.

Let us know how it goes.

Julie

ok, i will start calling schools

ive had this question for ever

if you apply to a NJCAA school, do you have to register with NCAA clearing house?

You only need to register with the Clearinghouse to play D1 or D2 baseball.

But, it is still a good idea to register even if you only intend to attend a JC. Sometime plans change. And, if it turns out that you want to transfer from a JC to a D1, and you didn't register with the Clearinghouse while in high school, then you'll have to get an AA degree before transferring.

3Fingered..

Question for you my friend.

What impact does it have on a JUCO player if he (1) did and (2) didn't register for the NCAA Clearinghouse? I ask for the purpose of simply learning. Younggunson did register for which I am thankful but I've always wondered the weight of registering or not registering.

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Originally posted by 3FingeredGlove:
You only need to register with the Clearinghouse to play D1 or D2 baseball.

But, it is still a good idea to register even if you only intend to attend a JC. Sometime plans change. And, if it turns out that you want to transfer from a JC to a D1, and you didn't register with the Clearinghouse while in high school, then you'll have to get an AA degree before transferring.

i want to play D1 or D2 but i dont have the courses to do it and im done high school, if i go back for another year, that just delays me a year i could have been trying to get playing time in, so i really think just tryign to get into a JUCO is best

Conky,
OK, so you have finished high school, but don't have the courses to play either D1 or D2. That means that you are classed as a non-qualifier, and registering for the Clearinghouse really isn't an issue.

There won't be much impact if you transfer to a D2, as long as you complete 12 credit hours on average for each full time term of JC enrollment, and get a 2.0 GPA. You also need to attend JC for two full-time semesters.

To transfer to a D1 school without sitting a year, you will need to have completed an AA degree. You would need a 2.0 GPA, 48 transferrable hours, with 6 hours of English and 3 hours of math.

YGD,
The Eligibility Center (the proper name these day for the Clearinghouse) seems to work independently, and frankly the applicable rules and procedures aren't very clear to me. The Eligibility Center certifies students for academic qualifications, and for amateurism. Only the Eligibility Center can determine if a student is a qualifier or non-qualifier. So if the player never registers, he automatically is a non-qualifier. I don't know how or if a player can get certified as a qualifier if he tries to register after having started college. By not registering and/or not, for example, taking the SAT/ACT, the player would likely need to get a waiver to be treated as a qualifier.

Anyway, non-qualifier status has no impact on any player unless he enters a D1 or D2 school. For a player entering a D2 from a JC, the additional requirement is just that he needs to have attended the JC for 2 semesters rather than just one. Not a big deal!

A non-qualifier transferring from a JC to a D1 needs to have completed an AA degree, with a 2.0 GPA, 48 transferrable hours, and 6 hours of English and 3 hours of math. A qualifier doesn't need the AA degree, but does need to average 12 hours per full-time semester. So a qualifier can transfer after one year, but a non-qualifier--or a player deemed to be a non-qualifier because he didn't register--needs two years at the JC.

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Originally posted by 3FingeredGlove:
Conky,
OK, so you have finished high school, but don't have the courses to play either D1 or D2. That means that you are classed as a non-qualifier, and registering for the Clearinghouse really isn't an issue.

There won't be much impact if you transfer to a D2, as long as you complete 12 credit hours on average for each full time term of JC enrollment, and get a 2.0 GPA. You also need to attend JC for two full-time semesters.

To transfer to a D1 school without sitting a year, you will need to have completed an AA degree. You would need a 2.0 GPA, 48 transferrable hours, with 6 hours of English and 3 hours of math.

Ok, what is this about 48 transferable hours, with 6 hours of English and 3 of math

that sound pretty easy to get to me, i must be miss understanding it

All of the hours need to be transferrable, and the 48 hours has to be transferrable as the foundation for whatever major you choose. A typical JC has lots of courses which won't be accepted at a 4 year school. Those courses will count toward the (typically) 60 hours needed to get the AA degree, but may not be recognized by the new school.

For English and math, many first year students at a JC are taking remedial level courses, and the NCAA wants the transfer student to have 6 hours of English at what the 4 year school considers college level.

So a player needs to plan his courses carefully. It may be necessary to take 2 straight years of English and/or math in order to get 6/3 transferrable hours. Or if the player's high school preparation is strong, it won't be an issue at all.

Courses like Baseball Theory probably won't transfer.

Another way that a course may not transfer is to have received a low grade. For example, let's say a player gets all B grades except for 1 D. His GPA is fine but the 4 year school probably won't accept the course with the D grade.

The requirements aren't hard if you are careful in planning.

It is possible to apply to the NCAA clearing house to be a qualifier after a players high school senior year and before he begins college?

I'm sorry, but I don't know. I should make clear that any prospective student athlete can register with the Eligibility Center, including college players who may be transferring into a D1 or D2 college.

But I'm not sure if a late (post high school) registrant can submit information to be a qualifier, or if the registration is only good for establishing his amateur standing. Common sense would say that it's never too late, as long as the standardized tests were taken during high school. I also imagine that an obviously good student would be able to get a waiver, but that path is a little risky, since only the D1 school can request the waiver. If it happened to be denied, it would be too late to avoid sitting out.

My advice would be that any good student who didn't register in high school should try to register, and submit the transcripts, test scores, etc. It only costs $60 for the Eligibility Center. On the other hand, if a student knows that he doesn't meet all of the requirements, then there isn't any point.

And if somebody tries, then we'll know.