Here we go again

If Congress ran a playoff system it would operate at a deficit.

I'm not for Gov't getting involved in things, but maybe it's because the NCAA hasn't stepped up to actually put this in place. Every person who watches ANY college sports knows that a play off system is the way to truly crown a champion. Don't blame the gov't for taking action, blame the NCAA for not.

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"what the heck do we need the government getting involved for"

A very good question TR. All of us should be asking that question!




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Is the BCS not a monopoly ... with monopolistic control?

It is definetly a money grab, by the big, rich and powerful that are strong arming the smaller schools and conferences. This is a situation where the Govt should step up and demand fairness and equal treatment for all.

High schools have playoffs, Div 1-AA, Div 1, JC they all have play offs, even the NFL has a play off.
College basketball and baseball have a huge play off, with conference tournament winners advancing into the NCAA Championship. I would think football would interfer less on school than basketball does with games on school nights, and the NCAA Tourny last 1 month.

I hope Congress does stop the BCS so called championship and that a true play off gets initiated. Hopefully conference champions get automatic bids.

Congress just does what they are told.

The guys filling the politicians' pockets run the country.

"All pro sports, as well as the NCAA, should thank God every day we have sports betting here...
We have the only agency in the world that regulates the honesty of games." - Meyer Lansky

As much as I would love to see a playoff, the government has it's hand in enough. They should not be regulating sports now. Unless we want all sports to go away due to huge deficits. As stated in other threads, some colleges are already trying to cut sports due to budgets. With the govt. involved, it can only get worse!

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Amen to that!

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Maybe governments should stay out of colleges, altogether, and do away with state and federal financial aid, too.

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Originally posted by Vicarious Dad:
Maybe governments should stay out of colleges, altogether, and do away with state and federal financial aid, too.

See Hillsdale College, Minnesota.

One of the theories of the rising cost of college is the colleges feel no matter what they charge the government will help subsidize it. Guess where the government money comes from. Therefore everyone is paying for college whether or not they have a kid attending or not.

Maybe I missed something. I thought the legislation Barton proposed simply required a playoff and would stop the current BCS monopoly. I don't believe it said the goverment was going to run college sports. It still leaves it up to the NCAA to set up and run the playoff.

Since government has become involved with financial aid, the needy get priority over the qualified.

College has become little more than a continuation of high school.

Isn't the government just a little busy at the moment? Wars, high unemployment, getting TARP monies distributed and then returned, budget deficits.....?

In addition to sticking the government's nose where it doesn't belong....this seems like just another distraction away from what they are trying to do - pass a very unpoular healthcare bill?

I think, from what I read, they only want the BCS to stop calling the winner National Champion or anything like that until a playoff system is in place. I don't think they want to pass a bill to force a playoff but then again it is our Government.

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Originally posted by Quincy:
Since government has become involved with financial aid, the needy get priority over the qualified.

College has become little more than a continuation of high school.

With the rising cost of college a lot of kids have become needy.

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Originally posted by baseballguy:
Isn't the government just a little busy at the moment? Wars, high unemployment, getting TARP monies distributed and then returned, budget deficits.....?

That's what Herbstreet said on the radio this morning, he doubts the gov't will ever get involved in telling anyone they have to have a playoff system in place, but they will try to go through the motions as it will make some people happy.

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Originally posted by RJM:

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Originally posted by Vicarious Dad:
Maybe governments should stay out of colleges, altogether, and do away with state and federal financial aid, too.

See Hillsdale College, Minnesota.

Hillsdale College is in Hillsdale, MI.

From their website:

"Hillsdale’s educational mission rests upon two principles: academic excellence and institutional independence. The College does not accept federal or state taxpayer subsidies for any of its operations."

I find it ironic that the bill's sponsor is Republican Rep. Joe Barton of Texas, a member of the party that favors limited government.

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There are going to be lots and lots of incumbents from both sides of the aisle who will not be reelected in 2010...and that is a very good thing!



And double thumbs up to Representative Jason Chaffetz (R-UT)...he will not vote for an ounce of pork and has chastised his own party's leadership for not following suit.





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I find it ironic that the bill's sponsor is Republican Rep. Joe Barton of Texas, a member of the party that favors limited government.

Jimmy, exactly what in his proposal means more government? The new legislation would bar the BCS from referring to its big final game as the national championship, require that all conferences be considered equally in the current ranking system, and distribute television revenue and other income equally among all conferences. And, it would probably add the BCS lobbyists to unemployment statistics.

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Originally posted by Vicarious Dad:
Maybe governments should stay out of colleges, altogether, and do away with state and federal financial aid, too.

I agree! While we're at it let's eliminate Carter's Education Department! What an albatross this has become. Do a little research on Kevin Jennings - the Safe Schools Czar.

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Originally posted by Tx-Husker:

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I find it ironic that the bill's sponsor is Republican Rep. Joe Barton of Texas, a member of the party that favors limited government.

Jimmy, exactly what in his proposal means more government? The new legislation would bar the BCS from referring to its big final game as the national championship, require that all conferences be considered equally in the current ranking system, and distribute television revenue and other income equally among all conferences. And, it would probably add the BCS lobbyists to unemployment statistics.

Uh, sounds a lot like redistribution of wealth (socialism) to me. Exactly why the govt. should not get involved in something like this. A little bit here, a little bit there and we are no longer a capitalist society.

I agree on the revenue sharing part of it being a bad idea. My question was what part of that proposal creates big goverment.

May not make the government bigger per se. But it is just the government getting involved in another area of our lives that is not necessary. Every little bit they get involved in takes a little more away from our personal liberties and reinforces the idea that it is OK for the government to be involved in too many areas of society. So, not bigger, but more entrenched.

I don't care if it's the government, the conferences, or the freaking mafia that makes the NCAA go to a playoff system. I just want one.

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You just want one coach?

I know a guy.




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Originally posted by coach scotty:
I don't care if it's the government, the conferences, or the freaking mafia that makes the NCAA go to a playoff system. I just want one.

You want a playoff system? I can make it happen. I'll call a few of my friends. We'll twist a few arms.

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Originally posted by gotwood4sale:
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You just want one coach?

I know a guy.




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That's just wrong. lol

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You're right coach...let me rephrase that.

I know a tough guy.

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