former PG grade 9; Top 500 player. Now a vehicular murderer. Nothing good happens from making life too easy for children. Just a horrible story.
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With your logic there aren’t any poor kids doing criminal acts. It’s not about being rich, privileged and spoiled. It’s about being taught responsibility.
Our town has four country clubs. What you see in the high school parking lot for cars is mind boggling. It’s mostly mom’s lower end Beemers, Mercedes, Audis and Volvos handed down after coming off lease. Most of the kids I knew were still responsible.
I don’t see the correlation here. So being good at baseball means it was all easy? Or that you are gonna make a bad decision? Most of those kids that are 9s and 10s work their ass off to get there. Lots of kids make stupid decisions, his had a very high price. Not sure it has anything to do with his PG score or the kind of car he drives.
*Ive edited this to take out stuff that doesn't matter
Oh shoot, looks like I may have offended a few people. I'm sorry about that. We can differ in opinion. Maybe that was unfair of me as I admittedly don't know details of the kid's circumstances. The PG photo surprised me so I thought it would be of interest here. I guess the true moral of the story is that a quick mistake can have life-changing outcomes.
Im not offended. I just think the two things have nothing to do with each other.
Not that it matters but this kid was not a star baseball player. I may be missing it but I don't see a PG ranking. He looks mediocre to average at best and not on a college roster (would be this fall).
Wow....that's some great reporting lol. 2 paragraphs about the accident.....5 pages and 20 pictures about how much money the family had. Honestly I don't see the connection lol. I'm assuming that Daily Mail is the 2023 version of the National Enquirer? 
@Buckeye 2015 posted:Wow....that's some great reporting lol. 2 paragraphs about the accident.....5 pages and 20 pictures about how much money the family had. Honestly I don't see the connection lol. I'm assuming that Daily Mail is the 2023 version of the National Enquirer?
I was going to say - that was pretty pathetic.
Between the baseball backstory, the pictures of the kid's sisters and details of the divorce. I'm not sure how much worse it gets than this.
Side note - $6k in alimony a month and a 9 million dollar house. They say there are no winners in a breakup but this would be as close to winning as you could get.
@Dadbelly2023 posted:former PG grade 9; Top 500 player. Now a vehicular murderer. Nothing good happens from making life too easy for children. Just a horrible story.
I don't know the details and I don't care enough to go into it but I did read in the article that it was a notoriously dangerous bend. Meaning - there are car accidents that take place here fairly frequently. If the article made no mention of the kids background would you be saying the same thing? Would we maybe be thinking about maybe doing something with this road?
If a straight A valedictorian who volunteered at animal shelters and also happed to come from money was going a little too fast around a dangerous curve - would you say his parents made life too easy for him?
Like I said - I don't know if he was drunk, high, speeding, or just the victim of some very bad conditions and timing but painting a blanket over kids who had money growing up is just as silly as editor who let this piece get published.
If he were driving a 2010 Civic and didn't go to private school nobody would care
If he were driving a 2010 Civic and didn't go to private school nobody would care.
Despite the economics of our town our kids got used Civics for senior year. Mercedes smaller car is the C series. My son joked he had a C series Honda (Civic).
Sry PAbaseball. Again no offense intended. But I do doubt many valedictorians are doing 105 in 45 zones.
Interesting. PG scrubbed him entirely off their website. I guess I don't blame them. They must have been appalled when the media used his photo in PG gear. He was, in fact, a 2020 PG 9, around 315rhp in US, maybe 45 rhp or so in CA.
Google search has these remnants from bio.
Fraser Bohm is a 2020 RHP with a 6-4 190 lb. frame from Malibu, CA who attends Oaks Christian HS. Large, athletic frame with square shoulders and a lean, projectable build with room to fill throughout. Primary righthanded pitcher, balanced delivery on the mound with a high leg raise at ...
Terrible sensationalism by the writer. And they wonder why nobody wants to subscribe to their trash “news” sites. First thing I wondered was why they prominently displayed the PG pic.
It’s a terrible tragedy and most parents worst fear when sending their kid off to college. The writer didn’t do much of a job covering that
@TerribleBPthrower posted:Terrible sensationalism by the writer. And they wonder why nobody wants to subscribe to their trash “news” sites. First thing I wondered was why they prominently displayed the PG pic.
It’s a terrible tragedy and most parents worst fear when sending their kid off to college. The writer didn’t do much of a job covering that
There was a mass shooting last night about thirty-five miles away. According to the AP everyone for fifty miles around is sheltered behind closed, locked doors.
I was just out biking twenty miles. Now I’m at Panera reading and having a drink. Panera’s business level is normal. The shopping center parking lot is as full as normal. Everything I saw while biking looked normal as any other day. Normal doesn’t draw clicks.
@TPM posted:
Hi TPM. I'm a little gun shy to write anything anymore but yes. I'm a bit familiar with him and his past. Life is a challenge for everyone. We all have personal, medical, life issues; grief, etc. And we all can find redemption through insight and change.
Per the OP, I don't know that I think poor choices are as much a thing of privilege but rather they are most often a result of poor parenting. While I understand that there are exceptions to the rule, IMO, the more parent or parents put into their parenting efforts, the better the child will respond. My wife and I have never struck our daughter. We never had to "give her a whipping." Instead, we were firm and consistent. We engaged ourselves in every aspect of her life while doing our best to not be helicopter parents. As most know, in sports like baseball and softball, helicopter parents are plentiful. My dd is 30 now and I am certain that she would cry if either my wife or myself tell her that we are disappointed in her.
Parenting is hard and it is extremely hard when a family has a gifted child. In our cases sports. We set "rules" for our child. some of those included that when interviewed by the press she was to heap praise on her teammates or coaching staff first in her response. She was told that she was never to criticize her teammates in public and to be careful doing so at any time. She was told that when we purchased new equipment appreciate it and if possible, find someone who could benefit from her older equipment. Our daughter participated in TB programs that were strong in doing community service. She spent both Thanksgiving and Christmas feeding the homeless. When she went to college, (30 minutes away from where we live.) she asked her coach if her college team could work the Christmas meal. Many of her teammates went home for Christmas but those that didn't served with her.
Well, enough about my child and us. The point is that parents work to put their children on the right path. For so many of us, our efforts have been repaid and then some. I know many on this site and your children are outstanding. Sometimes, kids mess up. The case in the OP was an example.
I lost a girlfriend at 16, she veered into oncoming traffic on a treacherous stretch of highway 1 near SF and was in a coma for 3 months before passing. Nobody died in the other vehicle, but there were serious injuries. I have no photos of her, and more than 40 years has faded her details from my mind. However, not a week goes by I don’t think about her parents and their devastation over the loss. Her mother collapsed into my arms before the service, in a heap of despair and unimaginable sorrow - it’s still as clear as reality to me and there really are no words. I knew this as my greatest fear long before I had children. My heart breaks for any parent that loses a child and I’ll leave it at that.
Teenagers of all types make bad choices, rich or poor, privileged or not, it’s inevitable. I’d say from my studies boys have a higher instance rate, but girls are not immune. If I’m truthful, as a teenager I did things with my car that could have ended tragically. I’ve never driven intoxicated, but I’ve been reckless by my standards today. I’d be shocked if this isn’t true for most of the guys on this site. The whole thing is beyond tragic for everyone involved.
lastly, there’s a big difference between spoiled and entitled. Being spoiled is getting things you may not deserve. Entitled is believing you deserve anything you can get.
Growing up with almost nothing, making my own way since 17 without finishing HS, I certainly spoiled my kids. The only job they knew was school and sports until college ended. They received new cars in HS and every advantage we could reasonably give them within our means. Why? Because we could, and because we try to fix what we believe was wrong with our upbringings (right or wrong).
Both my sons are kind and responsible men. Both have thanked me for the undeserved advantages they’ve received that have helped them be successful in life. So yes, spoiled but not entitled and I’m good with that…