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but his skills can't be questioned.

His crew is the only one calling balks it seems. Very few other crews call "questionable" balks. They get the obvious ones and nobody disagrees. The Joe West/Angel Hernandez freak show finds all of them that nobody else sees.

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Originally posted by Bulldog 19:

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but his skills can't be questioned.

His crew is the only one calling balks it seems. Very few other crews call "questionable" balks. They get the obvious ones and nobody disagrees. The Joe West/Angel Hernandez freak show finds all of them that nobody else sees.

Cite? Evidence?

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And you know he wasn't? Really?

Until they announce it, we will assume he was not punished.

I see. So since you personally are not privy to the facts, you feel free to make them up.

Most folks I know chose not to assume that which they do not know. You style is completely alien to me.

Those in charge of discipline of umpires are governed by the team owners, not umpires. They are ones who decide which punishments are made public and which are not, not the umpires. MLB decided long ago that it is not, for the most part, to publicize these matters. Word, however, does filter out, mainly through umpire sources. Having personal relationship with a few MLB and MiLB umpires and having a son working in minors provides me with some information at times.

But you go on making up the facts as you need them to fit your world, and I will be content knowing reality.

Have a nice season.

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Originally posted by Bulldog 19:

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but his skills can't be questioned.

His crew is the only one calling balks it seems.

Really? Ever hear of Bob Davidson?

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Originally posted by Jimmy03:
...having a son working in minors...

Hmmm...he doesn't happen to have the same first name as yours truly, does he?

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Originally posted by Matt13:

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Originally posted by Jimmy03:
...having a son working in minors...

Hmmm...he doesn't happen to have the same first name as yours truly, does he?

No. Nor does he have the same name as me. You will note I haven't spoken much about him. He worked his first year the same year I moved to California. I decided that if he were identified, or I spoke too much of him, it could cause him grief in his career.

I do plan to fly east and see him work this summer, though.

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No. Nor does he have the same name as me. You will note I haven't spoken much about him. He worked his first year the same year I moved to California. I decided that if he were identified, or I spoke too much of him, it could cause him grief in his career.

Yes, understood. That's why I don't go into too much detail here myself.

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I take no exception to your disagreement of my feelings for Francona. He may be an excellent manager, that can't speak to, but there are a handfull of managers in pro baseball that just don't seem to get how to argue a point and when to quit. I have no problem with a manager going out to question a call or express his displeasure, but he just doesn't get where the line is. Ozzy is another and seems to be way worse. There are several others but names escape me.
I can see you not liking Joe's handling of situations, he doesn't always have the best bedside manner but his skills can't be questioned.

For many MLB coaches isn't getting tossed more of a strategic thing? I would bet many of them are going out to the field knowing they are going to get ejected because from the there they can get their say in before heading to the showers, and other times the ejection is for defending a player to keep them from getting ejected. On occassion it can fire up the team, and it is a way for the players to know the manager has their back.

Aguing rules interpretations rarely get a coach tossed more likey is is over judgement calls and ball/strikes/balks arguements which the coach is always going to lose.

Bobby Cox, Ozzie, Francona, Gardenhire......it's not about how to argue or when to quit. It's more like toss me and then they are going to let them know about how they feel about the umpire's performance.

Even at the majors, you can tell an umpire what you think of his performance without getting ejected. It's what you tell him next that gets you ejected.

Some managers apparently believe that getting ejected fires up their team, or indicates to players that they have their backs. Some managers have/had serious anger management problems and some seem to enjoy putting on a show. Still others like to get personal with umpires and tell them not what they think about their performance, but more about their parentage, heritage, character and other issues.

And a few appear to just want to get out of the game, shower and relax or go home.

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Still others like to get personal with umpires and tell them not what they think about their performance, but more about their parentage, heritage, character and other issues.

Jimmy, your remarks are a good point. Personally the abiltiy for an offical and a coach to go at it like they can in baseball is one of the beautifull parts of the game. In no other pro sport does this happen. From Billy Martin, to Earl Weaver, to Sweet Lou, to Ozzie, and Bobby Cox an umpire may not like having to deal with their antics but as a true fan first I love it about the game.

Back to original topic.

Don't know if the guy got any suspension. He was back on the field a week later when we saw them next.

I don't get it at all.

Two possible explanations:
1. The BOD hasn't met yet to decide how to handle it.
2. The BOD is clueless or spineless and this is why they have coaches that act like this one.