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Last night my son and I were at my daughter's house. Somehow participation trophies came up as a topic. My kids said it's the crazy, coddling parents fault there are participation stories. They're the ones who makes the fuss and the demands. Don't blame our generation for something your generation (parents) demanded we receive. And while we're bitching, stop driving up the debt your generation is leaving for ours to pay off.

Participation trophies didn't have a long shelf life at our house. They became BB gun targets and fodder for experiments. Can a fire cracker blow the arms off a participation trophy? 

 

 

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I like your use of the participation trophies.

 I've heard that from Mellenials too. It's mostly true. But I doubt many parents on this board are the cause of participation trophies  

On another note we played on a highly successful travel team with about 5 Grayson Allens last year.  Things don't go your way throw a hissy-fit.  That's on the parents too. Can't wait for that to get weeded out.  

Goblue33 posted:

On another note we played on a highly successful travel team with about 5 Grayson Allens last year.  Things don't go your way throw a hissy-fit.  That's on the parents too. Can't wait for that to get weeded out.  

Amen to that! Have seen way too much of that over the years! Has to do with the fact there are way too many participation trophies and even high school teams make few or NO cuts! Make it a reward to make the team and the participation trophies should take care of themselves...but of course, that's just my opinion....

Participation trophies would go away if the cost to participate went down. Talk about getting something for nothing!  As for spoiled brat athletes - that'll be harder to "weed out" since there are too many that have been brought up as the next superstar (that's on parents and coaches). I'd rather deal with an athlete who has worked hard and has learned humility than the entitled ones who've been told their whole life that they are the best or that other children are getting something because their parent is involved. 

Oh my gosh, we could write a book on this topic as it relates to modern sports.  Thankfully baseball is not as bad as some of the other sports IMHO.  The bottom line for me is that it always comes back to money.  Modern sports has become huge business and the dollars associated with it.  All the trappings are there.  Little Johnny shows some potential as an athlete...everybody begins to believe the hype around Johnny including Johnny and his parents...they think a big pay day is coming as Johnny's head swells.  High school, travel and college coaches treat him differently.  That is the beginning of that slippery slope, and they are not doing the athlete any favors.  I saw it in the late 70s and early 80s (with some college athlete friends) and I'm guessing some older posters may have seen it earlier in their high school or college experience. 

In the last few years, I can't believe how much college baseball recruiting has changed since my oldest son started and my youngest son considered college baseball.  Incredible change in a short period of time, and I can't imagine what it will be like when I'm a grandfather.  As the sports business grows significantly, I don't see this issue going away.  People look to sports for entertainment, and that is not going away.  The issue as I see it is parents want to coddle; be their friend and/or business partner instead of being their parent (or life coach as I call it)....I hope I'm wrong.  These kid athletes don't need somebody blowing smoke up their butt, they need someone to give them a constant reality check that there is no life easy button....that is in the parents job description.  JMO. 

I know many are against participation trophies and awards. Yet to an extent isn't that what diplomas and athletic letters are?

I know most everyone is against what Grayson Allen did.  Though he is receiving punishment for doing it.

I just don't understand what Participation Trophies and Grayson Allen have in common.  Grayson Allen is an All American that led one of college basketballs legendary programs in scoring and assists.  He also is one of the very few Duke All Americans that stayed in school rather than declare for the NBA draft.

What he has been suspended for isn't something running out of control among young athletes. Questionable actions in competition is not something limited to the new generation.  

Guess I just don't get the connection between participation trophies and Grayson Allen.  In fact, I can't even understand how a participation award can create a sense of entitlement in anyone.  After all, it is nothing more than a participation award.  That said, I sure can see how a parent can create a sense of entitlement in their children.  Things change... Hard work is no longer what it used to be for many.  It's being replaced by equipment, technology, and easier production.  

Are we supposed to look down our nose and make fun of the kid that proudly displays his participation trophy?  What if it is the only trophy he will ever receive?  Are we worried about him becoming a bad person with a sense of entitlement?

I have never been involved with this participation award stuff.  Seems like it is just barking up the wrong tree and ignoring much bigger issues that create problems.

I agree. Or at least I do based on my experience with these awards, which is this: in our lowest level of little league, which is played at 6 and 7, all players were given a small trophy. For many, it was their last experience in baseball. For most, it was their last trophy. (Unless they went on to collect buckets of them in travel ball, but that's another topic) I don't know how such an incident in first or second grade would have such a profound impact on a person's life view later on so that they would have a sense of entitlement. I doubt many even remember it. Seems unlikely, but if someone can connect the dots I'd be interested in learning more.

JCG posted:

I agree. Or at least I do based on my experience with these awards, which is this: in our lowest level of little league, which is played at 6 and 7, all players were given a small trophy. For many, it was their last experience in baseball. For most, it was their last trophy. (Unless they went on to collect buckets of them in travel ball, but that's another topic) I don't know how such an incident in first or second grade would have such a profound impact on a person's life view later on so that they would have a sense of entitlement. I doubt many even remember it. Seems unlikely, but if someone can connect the dots I'd be interested in learning more.

My kids said they were fine with medals for travel tournaments. They had so many they said they don't know where they would have put them if they were trophies. Medals went on the bedpost. One on top of the next.

fenwaysouth posted:

Oh my gosh, we could write a book on this topic as it relates to modern sports.  Thankfully baseball is not as bad as some of the other sports IMHO.  The bottom line for me is that it always comes back to money.  Modern sports has become huge business and the dollars associated with it.  All the trappings are there.  Little Johnny shows some potential as an athlete...everybody begins to believe the hype around Johnny including Johnny and his parents...they think a big pay day is coming as Johnny's head swells.  High school, travel and college coaches treat him differently.  That is the beginning of that slippery slope, and they are not doing the athlete any favors.  I saw it in the late 70s and early 80s (with some college athlete friends) and I'm guessing some older posters may have seen it earlier in their high school or college experience. 

In the last few years, I can't believe how much college baseball recruiting has changed since my oldest son started and my youngest son considered college baseball.  Incredible change in a short period of time, and I can't imagine what it will be like when I'm a grandfather.  As the sports business grows significantly, I don't see this issue going away.  People look to sports for entertainment, and that is not going away.  The issue as I see it is parents want to coddle; be their friend and/or business partner instead of being their parent (or life coach as I call it)....I hope I'm wrong.  These kid athletes don't need somebody blowing smoke up their butt, they need someone to give them a constant reality check that there is no life easy button....that is in the parents job description.  JMO. 

Great post!

I agree that as sports contracts get bigger and bigger, more parents will treat their kids like 401K's. 

I'm not saying it's wrong to dream - my kid dreams of playing in the bigs like all ball players but the dream doesn't run our lives. 

I don't think it's the participation trophies per se, but how the parents bring up their kids. Participation trophies are a symptom. My kids got participation trophies, they knew they were meaningless. In fact, they didn't care about any trophy unless it was for 1st place. 

Its the parents. If my kids didn't do well, I told them. If they didn't do well, they knew it themselves. I didn't coddle them. I wasn't mean, but I wasn't telling them they were great when they weren't. It's important to know how to lose. Kids need to learn how to take responsibility for the loss and learn how to do better and improve. I think many of today's kids just get told it's not their fault. The loss was because of the other kids on the team. So they go around thinking they can't do wrong. If they lose later on in life, they don't know how to accept responsibility, they just look for someone else to blame. 

 

Like I said, plenty of our kids got participation trophies. I don't think it's that, it's how the parents brought them up. "Participation Trophies" has kind of become a catch phrase for bad parenting. 

The Doctor posted:

 Wouldn't it be interesting if participation trophies were available to be purchased at sporting events instead of given away? You know sitting right between the bubble gum and the sunflower seeds, that would truly make for some thought-provoking conversation!

Those would be called the tournament tee shirts. They cost more than participation trophies.

bballman posted:

I don't think it's the participation trophies per se, but how the parents bring up their kids. Participation trophies are a symptom. My kids got participation trophies, they knew they were meaningless. In fact, they didn't care about any trophy unless it was for 1st place. 

Its the parents. If my kids didn't do well, I told them. If they didn't do well, they knew it themselves. I didn't coddle them. I wasn't mean, but I wasn't telling them they were great when they weren't. It's important to know how to lose. Kids need to learn how to take responsibility for the loss and learn how to do better and improve. I think many of today's kids just get told it's not their fault. The loss was because of the other kids on the team. So they go around thinking they can't do wrong. If they lose later on in life, they don't know how to accept responsibility, they just look for someone else to blame. 

 

Like I said, plenty of our kids got participation trophies. I don't think it's that, it's how the parents brought them up. "Participation Trophies" has kind of become a catch phrase for bad parenting. 

Later in life you will find these kids around the water cooler bitching about their company, upper level management and people promoted over them. They won't have solutions to problems. They will only have complaints. 

PGStaff posted:

I know many are against participation trophies and awards. Yet to an extent isn't that what diplomas and athletic letters are?

I know most everyone is against what Grayson Allen did.  Though he is receiving punishment for doing it.

I just don't understand what Participation Trophies and Grayson Allen have in common.  Grayson Allen is an All American that led one of college basketballs legendary programs in scoring and assists.  He also is one of the very few Duke All Americans that stayed in school rather than declare for the NBA draft.

What he has been suspended for isn't something running out of control among young athletes. Questionable actions in competition is not something limited to the new generation.  

Guess I just don't get the connection between participation trophies and Grayson Allen.  In fact, I can't even understand how a participation award can create a sense of entitlement in anyone.  After all, it is nothing more than a participation award.  That said, I sure can see how a parent can create a sense of entitlement in their children.  Things change... Hard work is no longer what it used to be for many.  It's being replaced by equipment, technology, and easier production.  

Are we supposed to look down our nose and make fun of the kid that proudly displays his participation trophy?  What if it is the only trophy he will ever receive?  Are we worried about him becoming a bad person with a sense of entitlement?

I have never been involved with this participation award stuff.  Seems like it is just barking up the wrong tree and ignoring much bigger issues that create problems.

I actually think that unfair players were more common 30 years ago than now. It will always exist but in the past there were much more hidden fouls and rough behaviour in NBA and anyone was cheating in mlb (spit balls, pine tar on fingers and bats...).

Teaching Elder posted:

Their parents aren't responsible for the debt or the job market.  We don't have that kind of power - politicians do.  Once again millennials come up with an off base and strained rationalization for blaming their folks.  Just disgusting.

Actually I'm not even sure politics are that much to blame. Mistakes are made but a lot is just globalisation. Manufacturing is outsourced and only the planning and administration is done here. And the depth comes from trying to keep up the growth with government spending.

However the outsourcing doesn't happen due to politics but because it is cheaper to produce there, modern communication and logistics have created a world wide job and salary market.

While I understand that we are a representative democracy, it is the politicians, alone, who enter into the global trade agreements, NAFTA, TPA/TPP, not the general citizenry. To make matters worse, politicians often self deal and or serve monied and powerful interests before they do the common citizenry - the ways that they do this are manifold.   

So, my original point was to say that millennials holding older generations responsible for the debt and lack of jobs is a categorical fallacy.  In other words, just because a group of people were old enough to vote, and voted for various leaders and those leaders ran things into the ground, doesn't make them one in the same with those leaders.  There's also elements of the "false dichotomy" in there.  But that's another matter.

Anyway, as you probably already know, we got the trade agreements because big businesses figured out that they could get someone in another country to do a day's labor for what an hour's wage in the U.S. would cost.   The trade off was that we were supposed to get back cheaper goods.  Setting aside whether producers truly reduced costs proportionately, the actual costs to American consumers actually skyrocketed.   Hypothetical example:  Carrier moves production to Mexico, and as a result, a $7,500 HVAC unit in a few years will drop to $5,500.  Sounds great!  Were going to save $2,000 on HVAC units.  Utopia!  But, if Americans don't have jobs, or are grossly under employed, then the cost of that unit actually goes up for them.  Dystopia! 

We'd better relate this topic to baseball quickly or it'll turn into a 10 page thread covering everything from religion to political correctness while touching on the need for social spending reforms.

How 'bout them Cubbies?

Free trade and globalisation do not happen because of free trade agreements but because it is now technically feasible. Companies would have done it in the 1960s too if they Could. You Could Build a Wall but that is just Not realistic. Globalisation is a Reality and there is nothing that Could could have prevented that. 

And long term this is not bad. Our wealth comes from getting cheap resources from poor countries and creating surplus value by manifacturing expensive stuff out of that. At some point the emerging markets did not want that anymore but invested in education and infrastructure so that they could create that value themselves. Short term that is bad for us because wages ofor us will go down  and their wages go up but at some point there will be a common market were everyone in the world gets paid according to their talent no matter where they are from.

The alternative would be building a Wall and locking out the third world from creating their own value for a couple more decades to keep up the wage gap and our living standard but I don't think that is really feasible. A world wide market always was going to be the end state of the capitalistic society no matter what politics do. Modern communication and transportation made the world small not politics.

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I agree that globalism, free trade and worldwide markets will happen.  In fact they happened thousands of years ago at the appearance of the boat.  And I am certainly  not against these things within their proper limits.  

 

I would not see locking the third world into wage gaps and poverty as being a preferred action.  I would think putting pressure on the ruling classes of these severely two-tiered nations to begin taking care of their own people would be proper.   However, the alternative of making the majority of American's poorer in order to raise the living wage of third world nations to $25 a day, all while global elites pocket billions of dollars is certainly not an option in my book.

For the sake of brevity, the above statements are somewhat crude.  My positions are nuanced.  I would perhaps best be described as a Christian Capitalist.

Teaching Elder posted:

I agree that globalism, free trade and worldwide markets will happen.  In fact they happened thousands of years ago at the appearance of the boat.  And I am certainly  not against these things within their proper limits.  

 

I would not see locking the third world into wage gaps and poverty as being a preferred action.  I would think putting pressure on the ruling classes of these severely two-tiered nations to begin taking care of their own people would be proper.   However, the alternative of making the majority of American's poorer in order to raise the living wage of third world nations to $25 a day, all while global elites pocket billions of dollars is certainly not an option in my book.

For the sake of brevity, the above statements are somewhat crude.  My positions are nuanced.  I would perhaps best be described as a Christian Capitalist.

Yes that is not ideal either. That very few guys bank billions on the still existing wage gap is probably not how it should be. I just don't see an easy political solution other than protectionism. The wold economy and politics is now more complicated than ever.

I do think there is some drop off in politics quality but I'm against blaming a caste of politicians not seeing an obvious and easy solution. There are easy solutions but everything is so interrelated and has consequences that are hard to predict so that it is hard to take action.

I'm thinking that if there would be an easy solution it would be done. Politicians from either party are talking with harvard educated economy professors every day and they don't have easy solutions either.

That is a good point.  Competing views also serve to hamper the solutions.  Keynesian verses Freidmanite (oddly enough that is a word) theories get espoused by various economists as well as by the particular parties.  So, things go back and forth between which Harvard educated economists are in in vogue.  

In the end, though, I believe that economics often fails due to failure to realize that it is forced to deal with real live human beings.  Therefore, things cannot be quite so sterile.  A certain sense of humanity must be allowed in in order for economic policy to truly work well.

I am certainly not an adherent to Saul Alinsky, but Netflix currently has a documentary featuring him entitled, Requiem for the American Dream.  You have to be careful, as he will quote statements out of context and reach some historically wrong conclusions, but he also makes some very good points and gives some interesting historical economic perspectives.  It's worth the hour spent watching.

Guys there is nothing free about "free trade."  Bottom line you can't treat andvanced democratic industrialized markets the same as third world centralized markets.  

Now back to baseball and particpation trophies.  It's a creation by "little Johnny's" mommy so she didn't have to explain that he "lost" and that he was just as "good" as everyone else.  

Teaching Elder posted:

Their parents aren't responsible for the debt or the job market.  We don't have that kind of power - politicians do.  Once again millennials come up with an off base and strained rationalization for blaming their folks.  Just disgusting.

I kindly disagree with some of this.  While millennials do come up with more and more excuses, some parents definitely take some of the blame. More and more parents these days want to be their kids "best friend" versus a parent.  When they get a bad grade the parent will go in and complain to the teacher, not yell at the kid to study harder.  I can give example after example of where a parent wants a trophy for their kid because they get one every year, etc....

NXT LVL and ELDER, I don't believe I've seen any millennials on here blaming their parents for anything.  What this thread has been about is people saying participation trophies are the cause of the attitude of many millennials.  Then others, including myself, have responded with it is more the parents of the millennials that are to blame.  I don't think the millennials think there is anything wrong with what they do at all.  They themselves don't see a need to blame their parents, because they think everything they do is OK.  I don't know where this idea that the millennials are blaming their parents came up.  They probably think their parents are great, because they don't think there is anything wrong with who they are or what their outlook on life is.

And don't get me wrong.  There are PLENTY of normal, well adjusted millennials out there.  Not all of them are whining crybabies who think they can do no wrong and fall apart when they don't get their way.  

And I don't think the current economic environment has much to do with what we are talking about.  What we are talking about is how people respond to adversity.  In the best of times or in the worst of times, there will be adversity.  How you respond is what makes you the person you are.

The OP stated in his thread that his kids said that millennial's parent's were responsible for the poor job market and have left them with a huge debt to pay.  I have also seen responses from millennials where they defend themselves from the claims that they are lazy, unemployed, coffee shop possums, by blaming their parents for the job market and economy.  I've also seen one where they claim that their parents took naps and drank on their jobs.  LOL! Whatever makes them sleep better.

In the end, I think that many Millennial's parents ARE responsible for their lousiness, just not the job market or debt.   Yes, many of those parents rushed down to the school or the coach's office or planned parenthood in a zeal to solve their little one's problems for them and uphold their own vicarious goals for their children.  They also pumped them full of sunshine and false hope. 

The economy and the job market is a real issue though.  Who wants to get a university degree or even masters and end up serving coffee or driving for Uber?  I'd feel a bit bitter too.

And as a CMA, I don't think that what is said about Millennials is universal.  There are some fine young people out there today.

IDK, isn't it somewhat the natural progression of a society. You have the advancements in technology. You have advancements in medicine and psychology( notably the Dr Spock types). And a parents natural desire to see their kids lives be easier than theirs were.  It would stand to reason a certain "softness" would be the result.

My parents blamed the TV for the way my generation acted (and rock and roll, LOL). I'd somewhat disagree, that is until cable came along. I had three channels, you can only watch reruns of Gilligan's Island so many times... Now you have computers (internet), video games, and smart phones. Couple these influences with distracted parents and, well I see things getting a lot worse.

The boogie man to me are video games and the coming VR. It provides these kids with an virtual reality and some (mostly young men) are really struggling. At work the majority of our crew, as much as we have one, are young men between the ages of 18-25/6. Most of these young men still live at home and don't have a license. They come to work, they go home and play games, and sleep (intermixed with texting one another about playing Xbox). I sat in the shop one morning and listened to four or five of the guys have a serious debate about what events from Batman's past affected him most. I couldn't help but point out that Batman wasn't a real person. They stopped and looked at me like I had three heads.

Don't get me started on the one who is a furry.

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nxt lvl posted:

This is soooo funny. They have been getting blamed by us for their erosion of values, entitlement and work ethic and they have decided to try and turn the tables by blaming US for how THEY are acting. smh.....

 

 

My kid's comments are looking at the big picture. Their personal view is you get what you work hard for. It comes from parental expectations and not running to pick them up every time they fell. The best lesson is figuring out falling might hurt and how to balance risk and reward. 

Teaching Elder posted:

The OP stated in his thread that his kids said that millennial's parent's were responsible for the poor job market and have left them with a huge debt to pay.  I have also seen responses from millennials where they defend themselves from the claims that they are lazy, unemployed, coffee shop possums, by blaming their parents for the job market and economy.  I've also seen one where they claim that their parents took naps and drank on their jobs.  LOL! Whatever makes them sleep better.

In the end, I think that many Millennial's parents ARE responsible for their lousiness, just not the job market or debt.   Yes, many of those parents rushed down to the school or the coach's office or planned parenthood in a zeal to solve their little one's problems for them and uphold their own vicarious goals for their children.  They also pumped them full of sunshine and false hope. 

The economy and the job market is a real issue though.  Who wants to get a university degree or even masters and end up serving coffee or driving for Uber?  I'd feel a bit bitter too.

And as a CMA, I don't think that what is said about Millennials is universal.  There are some fine young people out there today.

One problem with chat boards is some people overreact (like this post), make a lot of assumptions without remaining calm, pausing and asking questions. 

My kids were referring to the big picture not their world. But they will pay the consequences for the debt long after we're gone. 

My kids are not lazy whiners as described in the above post. They both have excellent jobs. They were recruited to them the same way they were recruited to  travel teams. It happened with talent, motivation and work ethic (and the right internship connections) making them visible talent.

I guess I feel like if my kids have flaws (and they do), a portion of the responsibility has to lie with me for not raising them to overcoming those flaws. Having said that, though, I happily accept the flaw of not cleaning a room and procrastinating on homework in exchange for the values I did teach them — kindness to others, thoughtfulness about the world around them, and the knowledge that no one owes them anything. You have to work for what you get.

Oh yes, and if you're worried about the economy or jobs or trade or student debt, you need to educate yourself, decide what you believe is right, and vote.

No expert in parenting am I, even after having 4 kids all now 40 years old or older and having 15 grandchildren. But I have learned a few things along the way.

One thing I think everyone should understand about flaws or weaknesses.  Everyone has flaws... Everyone!... Including your children and you.

Because of what we do I see many examples of parents (usually dads) that have a very hard time understanding their son or daughter might have weaknesses.

i think it is vitally important to recognize strengths and weaknesses.  It helps to understand them and either accept or improve.

PGStaff posted:

No expert in parenting am I, even after having 4 kids all now 40 years old or older and having 15 grandchildren. But I have learned a few things along the way.

One thing I think everyone should understand about flaws or weaknesses.  Everyone has flaws... Everyone!... Including your children and you.

Because of what we do I see many examples of parents (usually dads) that have a very hard time understanding their son or daughter might have weaknesses.

i think it is vitally important to recognize strengths and weaknesses.  It helps to understand them and either accept or improve.

PG - Great point!  I coached baseball for eights years and would often say that almost every dad could list the things that their son did well but often times couldn't tell me what they didn't do well. 

Iowamom23 posted:

I guess I feel like if my kids have flaws (and they do), a portion of the responsibility has to lie with me for not raising them to overcoming those flaws. Having said that, though, I happily accept the flaw of not cleaning a room and procrastinating on homework in exchange for the values I did teach them — kindness to others, thoughtfulness about the world around them, and the knowledge that no one owes them anything. You have to work for what you get.

Oh yes, and if you're worried about the economy or jobs or trade or student debt, you need to educate yourself, decide what you believe is right, and vote.

I'm very politically informed. I looked at the top of the ballot and puked. My congressman who vowed he wouldn't do something then did it within three months was running unopposed.

Trump won because more people wanted change than business as usual regardless of how dangerous the change might be. Our votes don't really matter anymore. The politicians are owned by corporations, unions and special interests. The politicians do what the groups who buy them want. After that they throw the people a bone.

Politicans should be required to go to work in NASCAR style uniforms. The bigger the contributor the bigger the patch they have to wear. Then we will know who owns them and who they really represent.

Read "This Town" by Mark Leibowitz. I was surprised a liberal outed Washington. So was Bill Moyers. Moyers asked Lebowitz if he wasn't interested in getting invited to a Washington cocktail party ** ever again. If you read the book you will want to grab a torch and pitchfork and head for Washington to burn it down. The politicians thought the book was funny. They thought it was a parody of Washington. I guess the closest thing to torches and pitchforks is electing Trump president.

** Saturday night cocktails parties are the most important thing to Washington politicians. They all get together (both parties, media elites and social elites) and laugh at the ignorant masses.

 

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PGStaff posted:

No expert in parenting am I, even after having 4 kids all now 40 years old or older and having 15 grandchildren. But I have learned a few things along the way.

One thing I think everyone should understand about flaws or weaknesses.  Everyone has flaws... Everyone!... Including your children and you.

Because of what we do I see many examples of parents (usually dads) that have a very hard time understanding their son or daughter might have weaknesses.

i think it is vitally important to recognize strengths and weaknesses.  It helps to understand them and either accept or improve.

Weaknesses? I can see them. My son is 23, out of grad school and has a great job. He's so full of himself right now "arsehole" sometimes fits. When my daughter called him one I responded, "He's kind of insufferable like you were when you were 23. And I'm willing to bet you inherited it from your father. " Ah, to be young and have the world by the balls! was all my father said rather than get into it with me when I was that age.

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Participation trophies? Who cares? I have given them out. I have yet to see one kid who sees it as an accomplishment. It's simply a memento of a particular time in their lives. Much of this comes from the fact that parents are far more involved in their children's endeavors than they were 40 years ago. Of course, that comes with some problems, but it is also a positive. When I played Little League ball, very few parents were at the games. My father very rarely attended. I like it better today, though I'll admit that some parents take it too far.

As to Globalization, we'll be far better off when we understand that we no longer live in a country that manufactures many things. We invent. We develop. We traded factory jobs for high tech jobs and cheaper consumer goods. We need to stop thinking that things can return to a post-WWII economy. At the end of WWII, the majority of the industrial world was in ruins. Western Europe, Japan, and Russia needed to rebuild their economies, but didn't have the factories and resources to do so due to the destruction of a global war that was fought on their home turf. We, on the other hand, had built up a massive industrial complex and were ready to step in and provide everything. We were in a very unique position and that led to unparalleled prosperity. In truth, the economy is in great shape unless you're a coal miner or a factory worker. Those jobs will never come back to the US. They just won't. Today's manufacturing jobs will either be shipped to economies with low labor costs or mechanized. No manufacturer can compete if they have to pay living, US wages. It just isn't an option. 

One thing that bothered me a lot during the election was how communication has changed. If you can't say it in 140 characters or in 15 seconds, you can't get your message out. It's easy to make a vague accusation in a short sentence, but impossible to explain your answer in the same amount of space/time. The best example was the speech Clinton gave in West Virginia. She basically said that she understands that her policies were going to put a lot of coal miners out of work and put a lot of coal miners out of business and that, therefore, we need to put money into supporting and retraining those workers for new industries. All that got out was "We're going to put a lot of coal miners out of work." In a short feed, that seems a lot different than intended.

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