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Jaramillo's Baseball Club of Texas is now scheduling workouts for our 16U team for the 2008/2009 season. This is for the upcoming season which begins 8/1/08 and ends 7/31/09.

- Each "annual" season is divided into two stages:

Stage 1 - The Fall is the "Spring Training" program. This detailed program is designed to insure the athlete is functioning at peak performance going into the next High School or College Baseball season.

Training will given by the Jaramillo Professional staff which also includes the Owner, Aaron Jaramillo and Cincinnatti Reds minor league hitting instructor Tony Jaramillo. The program will be focused on the following:

- "Professional" Mental approach
- Speed Development,
- Strength and Conditioning,
- Position specific fundamentals and techniques,
- Hitting Instruction with Aaron and Tony Jaramillo,
- "In game" mental skills training.

Stage 2 - Spring/Summer Season
- Skills application and game performance evaluation with follow up training,
- Intense game schedules and competitions,
- Exposure to pro scouts and college coaches.

If interested please send E-mail with name, age, position, high school name and graduation year to jbcteammanager@att.net.
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Attempting to respond to the many E-mails:

- No, there is no cost for the private workout and never will be.
- Yes, the training programs (offense, defense, pitching, and speed/strength/conditioning) are moduled so you can get as intense as you want or just work on specifics.
- Yes, the teams will be playing in the "big name" showcase events as well as the potential for International play.

If interested please send E-mail with name, age, position, contact information, high school name and graduation year to jbcteammanager@att.net.
Jaramillo's Baseball Club's private workout for 16U and 18U will be held Saturday 8/2/08 beginning at 6:30 PM at the Lake Dallas High School baseball field.

This is a private workout and will be closed to the general public.

If you have not sent an E-mail requesting a workout but would like to participate, please E-mail JBCTEAMMANAGER@ATT.NET.

If you are interested but cannot make it to this workout, please let me know and we can discuss scheduling another time for you personally.

The Lake Dallas Baseball field is in the very back of the school property. Turn in at the 1st entrance past the school building and follow the parking lot, past the football stadium, all the way to the baseball fields in the back. Go in through the third base side gate.

Here is the link to a map to the school: http://maps.yahoo.com/map?q1=%20dallas,texas%20us&mag=5...210%20&gid1=18903714

If you have any questions or need anything at all please let me know.
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Originally posted by funneldrill:
One of your players is attending my camp for incoming freshman this week. Very impressive ball player that has a bright future. He has been wearing his Jaramillo "gear" with pride the last two days and has done a great job representing your program.

Thanks for what you are doing for baseball in our area.


Thank you for the positive comments. That's great to hear because that is the expectation we have of ever player in our organization. Respect the game, respect your opponents, and respect your Jaramillo "brothers" by carrying yourself like a professional.

Coach may you be directed and blessed by God in all that you do for the young men you have been given.
Hello and a tremendous thank you to everyone who has inquired about our club and for the wonderful comments about our organization and our players.

Let me start by saying THIS WEB SITE IS AMAZING!!!

It is unbelievable how many messages and phone calls and how many conversations have been generated because of this web site. The greatness of all who are responsible for it's existance and it's maintenance should be proclaimed. If you are watching, please PM me so we can somehow be a supporter of something so valuable to the greatest game on earth in it's most innocent and wonderful form, High School Baseball!!

Our club:

The thing that we have come to realize is that we are soooooo different from any other club team or amatuer baseball organization, that parents have a hard time grasping our philosophy and our mission.

In an attempt to provide insight to our club and to try and answer all the questions I've received to the best of my ability:

Our owner and his family were never involved in the "rec ball" or "select baseball" world. They have been raised in and around professional baseball only. They do not understand why parents think that their "association" with a particular "Club" means that their son will be given college and professional opportunities. They have seen hundreds of players that have been proclaimed to be something because "they played for the -----'s or the -------'s or ----", only to watch them get cut or sent home because they did not have the fundamental skills and techniques required to be successful at the next level.

- The foremost thing to know about the Jaramillo's Baseball Club is that we exist only for the purpose of developing players......not winning tournaments so we can hang banners from our walls and call ourselves the best _ _U team in the country.

- To that end, we will never post on our web site, in a self serving attempt to somehow claim resonsibility for their success, the names of any and every player who's ever even spoke to us in passing that made it to college or the pro's.

- We understand that every player's success is a result of their God given gifts and of them taking "personal responsibility" for utilizing the training and opportunities they have been provided.

- We understand that God has blessed us with the abilities and opportunities to be a part of His greater plan for the lives of our athletes and we take that responsibility very seriously.

- We will never be "watered down" like other organizations who constantly attempt to become bigger and bigger in order to make more and more money off the dreams of their untrained players.

- We will also never allow ourselves to become "watered down" in our training or our standards because we do not kneel at the feet of the almighty dollar.

- We will only have as many teams as we can effectively train to the standards we set and our training or coaching will never be given by anyone who has not played professionally unless they have been evaluated, trained, and certified by the Jaramillo's.

- Parents and players, you cannot count on always being the biggest, strongest, fastest player or team. There will always be some player somewhere more athletically gifted and some team whose owner is willing to pay for the best "Joe Stud" athletes to play for his team. Or even worse, uses the money paid all year by the "contractually bound" parents to cover the cost of "Joe Stud" so he can come in and take post season playing opportunities away from the players who went to war together all year. All this is done so they can call themselves the best and ba$k in their own glory. Where i$ the glory in that? We cannot $ee it. Can you?

- We have and we will continue to win plenty of games and tournaments by making sure our players have been given the opportunity to be the most "fundamentally sound" players on the field.

-When we do win, we win because our players, no matter how big, strong, fast or athletically gifted, are successful in the application of our training principles during game situations.

-We will never scream at our players or treat them in a negative way. They are our family and are deserving of the respect, patience, understanding and love that comes with that.

-We would never, as we've seen here on this site and others, make a comment that was intended to portray any player or parent in a negative way or to demean them as individuals or competitors, no matter what the gripe or complaint or accusation directed at our club. We make mistakes because we are not perfect. Players make mistakes because they are not perfect. Parents make mistakes because they are not perfect. There has been, and will be again, only One who is perfect.

-Nothing good can come from negativity. You can't fix a negative with a negative. If we have nothing positive to say, we do not say anything. When we lose or play below our potential, it doesn't do any good to tell this player or that player what they did wrong. No one knows it more than the player. Why do coaches and parents want to beat it to death? Do they not know the game? It is failure by design. Embrace it. Be thankful for it. You cannot learn or improve without failure. Success is an enemy who will steal your potential. Failure is your friend who shows you how to get better and makes you see the truth.

-There once lived a man, who willingly gave his life for his beliefs and his people. He said that "Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. And hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that". He was told the Truth, and guided by the Light so he could find and proclaim the Way. We pray that the same Truth and Light be our guide so we can always find our Way.

-To all those players that came out, your efforts and attitudes were excellent (the only thing you can control) and we look forward to seeing you again. We will send E-mails to you all and also post here, the details of our next workout.

-For those that could not make it and wanted to reschedule, I know who you are and I will let you know the details as well, as soon as possible.

-For those of you that have not yet shown an interest, you will.

Thanks. jbcteammanager@att.net.
Can I ask who you are 4genball and how you fit into this organization?

As someone who played with Tony, and worked on the same staff as Rudy for 3 years, I'll be very interested in how this works for them.

Of course we know about Rudy, but I can tell you from experience Tony has a gift for instruction. As a college senior, Tony was a sophmore and I took his advise rountinely into my at bats.
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Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
Can I ask who you are 4genball and how you fit into this organization?

As someone who played with Tony, and worked on the same staff as Rudy for 3 years, I'll be very interested in how this works for them.

Of course we know about Rudy, but I can tell you from experience Tony has a gift for instruction. As a college senior, Tony was a sophmore and I took his advise rountinely into my at bats.


Who am I? Well.....I am a nobody who was a lost and dying soul stranded in this world without hope, but through the life, death and ressurection of my Father's son, Jesus Christ, I have been saved from eternal suffering in the pits of Hades. God, as a loving Father, has blessed me by bringing Aaron, Tony and Rudy into my life and the life of my family.

I have been involved in the game for 47 years. I have played, coached, scouted and given private lessons. During my coaching career I had a lifetime winning percentage of .810 and have had my players go on to D1/D2/D3 universities, JUCO's and the professional ranks. As a scout I've had six players signed to professional contracts with one of them playing international ball (Italy).

In the private sector, I worked in the communications industry for 23 years. In my last assignment, before retirement in 2003, I developed, staffed, trained and operated a national call center and was responsible for a 12 million dollar capital and expense budget. I had 119 direct and indirect (salaried and bargaining unit/union) employees reporting to me and was the VP of Operations for our Texas business unit. My territory ran from the Texas/Arkansas line south to Harlingen and west to San Angelo. I have a Masters in Project Management from George Washington University.

Where do I fit in? I have been blessed again by my Father and asked to be the Business/General Manager for the organization. I was not qualified enough to be one of the "baseball" guys so I caught on the best I could. Smile

You speak the absolute truth Ken. Rudy, Tony and Aaron are the most talented teachers I've ever seen. Everyone knows about the Jaramillo hitting. No one knows about their fielding instruction and their ability to teach the mental approach required to survive the constant failure of the great game. If you come see us play, watch our fielders, they are as polished as any you will see.

We feel that it is time for a change in the way things are done in "select ball" and God willing, we are here to change it. I've heard the negative comments made by some of the other club owners/managers, trying to protect themselves by saying we are a short term thing. I guess we'll see won't we?

May be more than you wanted to know, but as I promised my Father, I have to tell the Truth.

I guess this is also a good time to let everyone know, we have just reached an agreement with our organization's full time pitching coach and an official announcement will be coming soon. His name is Brian Clark and he pitched for 8 years in the MLB.

Come see us.....More to follow soon.
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Originally posted by 4genball:
Sorry Peanut.....you didn't ask me for my name, so no, I didn't say it.


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Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
Can I ask who you are 4genball and how you fit into this organization?



Ah, ok? If I need to spell it out...What is your name?

I'm sure the man upstairs would want us to know the real name behind such glorious motives.

I won't tell Tony's nickname to keep his toughness perception intact.

So let's hear it......honor us with your name as he who shall speak with pride speaks with no shadows of a ghost.
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Originally posted by cheapseats:
So .... Ken....

Is "Peanut" your nickname?

Inquiring minds want to know. Smile


Sophmore year in high school football, got the name from a coach.

Carried over into baseball during HS.

Went to a college where a HS teamate "Rookie" played as well. Of course he had to make sure everyone knew.

Hadn't heard it in a long time but I'm sure now it will be back again.

It's OK though, everyone remembers a nickname.

Especially one like Peanut.

Nut for short if you don't mind.
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Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
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Originally posted by 4genball:
Sorry Peanut.....you didn't ask me for my name, so no, I didn't say it.


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Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
Can I ask who you are 4genball and how you fit into this organization?



Ah, ok? If I need to spell it out...What is your name?

I'm sure the man upstairs would want us to know the real name behind such glorious motives.

I won't tell Tony's nickname to keep his toughness perception intact.

So let's hear it......honor us with your name as he who shall speak with pride speaks with no shadows of a ghost.


Sorry Peanut.......Eddie P. put me up to it. Smile

My name is not important and I do not believe in self promotion. For it is written "Our Father in Heaven opposes the proud and brings grace to the humble". My name was given to me by my earthly parents so that I would come to them when they called me and there has been no significance added to it since. If you want to know me, come to our workout and I will introduce myself to you.
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Sorry Peanut.......Eddie P. put me up to it. Smile


Hopefully you have rubbed off on him. One of the few that couldn't make it through the program like Northwood. Descent talent though.

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My name is not important... If you want to know me, come to our workout and I will introduce myself to you.


Nah, this thread is all I need to know.

Good luck in your adventures with Tony and Rudy...

They've carried many folks along the way.
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Please accept my apologies Mr. Guthrie. I don't know you and it was inappropriate for me to use a name for you that you had not given me to use. I truly didn't mean to offend you and I am sorry.

Just for clarification:

This is Aaron Jaramillo's club and has been since it's inception last fall.

Tony, is Aaron's brother. Tony coached the 16U team alongside Aaron and trained our players during last fall's program.

At the begining of this year, Tony accepted an offer to become a hitting instructor in the Red's organization. Tony comes home during his off season and helps provide coaching, evaluation, and training as part of our fall program. He then returns to the Red's for spring training.

Rudy is their uncle and they have a very good relationship with him.

Aaron, prior to forming "Jaramillo's Baseball Club of Texas", was doing private lessons and coaching "collegiate" teams in wood bat leagues during the summer.

Some of the area's top players and "well known" names were/are players that he's worked with and were/are contributing to the success of other "big name" club teams.

Some of his clients have already been signed by major universities and professional teams. Some others stand a good chance to be drafted in the upcoming 2009 and 2010 MLB drafts.

(Our policy against "naming names" prevents me from listing their individual accomplishments and awards).

Understanding that cage and practice field intensity will never match "in-game" intensity, and wanting to be able to teach to an even higher level, Aaron decided to form a team of his students of the same approximate age and playing ability. That is the team that began competing in the fall of last year.

To see how they did, please visit the 16U team site at: www.leaguelineup.com/jbbc.
In Aaron's estimation, being able to evaluate his students' application of their skill specific training, during "in-game" conditions, and then designing and providing the corrective follow up training has accelerated the learning process by at least 30%. Also, by coaching the games, he can train them further on their "professional presence" and the proper mental approach.

Remember, he only cares about teaching. If it were about winning, we would not compete in 18U/16U events with 15U/14U players.

If you are still curious about our club and would like to learn how and why we do things, you are more than welcome to come out any time.

I will give Tony your number so you can catch up with him.

Thank you for your time.
4genball,

I know Rudy and Tony personally and, without saying, figured it was Aaron's program.

You didn't offend me so don't sweat it.

I stand for more important issues and nicknames don't seem to be at the top of that list.

I just find it unusual that you could come on here and list the hundreds of things you and the organization promote and stand for, under the word of God, without being willing to use your real name.

Like I said, no big deal. I hope the organization has success.

Unfortunatly, if Rudy and Tony are coaching in professional baseball, I don't see how they could help a team other than Oct. - Feb.
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4gen:

I am curious about the 30% rate of improvement. How/where does one come up with this number? Is it a "guess-timation"? I'm not trying to offend anyone, but from what I have read, it sounds like you are trying to re-invent the wheel...so to speak.

You have mentioned how other organizations "name names" of past & present players...wins/losses...championships, etc...Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with any of these players, coaches, parents having pride in their respective organizations.

Regardless, best of luck to you & your program.
You are right, it is a huge difference. Go to www.leaguelineup.com/jbbc and read for yourself.

Keep in mind, we didn't go into the games to win. We went into the games to learn. We learned through our failure not our success. In the games that we won, we successfully applied the training. In the games that we lost, we were having success and we got comfortable failed to execute on some plays, it drove our pitch count up and we ran out of pitching. Our players learned the importance of playing one pitch at a time and how a small mistake can lead to a series of mistakes and change the game down the line. If we were not playing older players, it would not have been so glaring and critical. Playing players our age, it is easier to overcome and then overlook when it doesn't cost you the game.

Success is your enemy that steals your potential. Failure is your friend that tells you the truth and helps you get better.
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Originally posted by 4genball:
You are right, it is a huge difference. Go to www.leaguelineup.com/jbbc and read for yourself.

Keep in mind, we didn't go into the games to win. We went into the games to learn. We learned through our failure not our success. In the games that we won, we successfully applied the training. In the games that we lost, we were having success and we got comfortable failed to execute on some plays, it drove our pitch count up and we ran out of pitching. Our players learned the importance of playing one pitch at a time and how a small mistake can lead to a series of mistakes and change the game down the line. If we were not playing older players, it would not have been so glaring and critical. Playing players our age, it is easier to overcome and then overlook when it doesn't cost you the game.

Success is your enemy that steals your potential. Failure is your friend that tells you the truth and helps you get better.


Earlier in your posts, you outlined the importance of the professional experience the Jaramillo's use in their approach for structure.

I agree with your statements on the matter and believe it takes experience to teach potential.

Although I would question your experience to speak on matters in regards to what is beneficial for young aspiring baseball players.

From what you have mentioned, your strickly the business mind behind the operation.

I'd stick to just that.

Besides, the Jaramillo's I know believe in the "no BS" approach.
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Originally posted by 643_DP:
4gen:

I am curious about the 30% rate of improvement. How/where does one come up with this number? Is it a "guess-timation"? I'm not trying to offend anyone, but from what I have read, it sounds like you are trying to re-invent the wheel...so to speak.

You have mentioned how other organizations "name names" of past & present players...wins/losses...championships, etc...Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with any of these players, coaches, parents having pride in their respective organizations.

Regardless, best of luck to you & your program.


Thanks for the questions and positive comments.

Sorry if it was confusing....it's not a 30% rate of improvement. I promise you, the improvement was more in the lines of 70% - 90%, depending on the player and the skill being polished.

Aaron found that his students, taking private lessons, advanced their skill level close to three times faster with "in-game" evaluation and training when combined with private lessons alone. He also discoverd that he was able to provide corrective training more efficiently and effectively after watching "game intensity" performances.

As an example, we utilize the "Jaramillo Scale" of professional development. It is an in-house unit of measurement, developed by Aaron Jaramillo, and it's based on the average major league player. Depending on where you are on that scale, you will have a "JS" rating. Those players improved their JS rating close to three times faster.

We agree and we see nothing wrong with acknowledgements. I didn't say anything about not listing championships and wins/losses as those are team accomplishments and we most certainly will post those.

My point was, and I think if you will do your research, you will find that there are several players listed as alumni on some web sites, that were not developed by that organization and may not have played with them for more than one season or a few tournaments. We find it hard to claim someone who may or may not claim us as the main contributor to their success.

That's all I meant by it.
4gen: Interesting. Again, no offense intended...just added commentary/questions.

1) Improving a player 70%-90%? I guess that is possible, if the player was really, really far behind. As a guy who deals with numbers, I find it very far fetched that anyone is going to improve a player 70-90% in the older age groups. From what you have said so far, you are going to improve a player's arm strength 70-90%...defense 70-90%...speed 70-90%...power 70-90%...hitting ability 70-90%...increse his velo 70-90%...Do you see where I'm going with this subject? If you would like to be credible in the baseball world, be careful what you advertise..

2) Jaramillo Scale based on the average major league player? Please explain how in the world you project a 14-15 year old kid comparably to a major league player. Again, as someone who has done this for a living...I am very interested in how someone can project a kid who throws 80mph as a 15 year old? There are so many variables to consider. It is mind boggling. It CANNOT be done...at least not with any validity.

3) Rudy and Tony's hitting instruction is well known and well respected. I just think it would be extremely difficult for them to have much involvement with the program...aside from a few off season months.

Thank you for the ongoing dialogue and keeping it constructive.
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In the games that we lost, we were having success and we got comfortable failed to execute on some plays, it drove our pitch count up and we ran out of pitching. Our players learned the importance of playing one pitch at a time and how a small mistake can lead to a series of mistakes and change the game down the line. If we were not playing older players,

Keep in mind, we didn't go into the games to win. We went into the games to learn
*If we were not playing older players, it would not have been so glaring and critical. Playing players our age, it is easier to overcome and then overlook when it doesn't cost you the game.*


Ok I can’t sit this one out. You say it is not about winning but there are 4 or 5 pictures on the front page of your website and Head Lines like “16’s WIN at Craig Ranch”

Also you say you get nothing out of playing teams your own age so your teams play up. I don’t call playing a 16 year old tournament at Craig Ranch playing up. If you want to play up play your 16’s in an 18U tournament in Dallas against the Tigers, Mustangs, and Dbat. I promise you will get plenty of success learning how to deal with failure. This was your best commit on this topic.

*In the games that we lost, we were having success and we got comfortable failed to execute on some plays, it drove our pitch count up and we ran out of pitching. Our players learned the importance of playing one pitch at a time and how a small mistake can lead to a series of mistakes and change the game down the line. *
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Originally posted by 643_DP:
4gen: Interesting. Again, no offense intended...just added commentary/questions.

1) Improving a player 70%-90%? I guess that is possible, if the player was really, really far behind. As a guy who deals with numbers, I find it very far fetched that anyone is going to improve a player 70-90% in the older age groups. From what you have said so far, you are going to improve a player's arm strength 70-90%...defense 70-90%...speed 70-90%...power 70-90%...hitting ability 70-90%...increse his velo 70-90%...Do you see where I'm going with this subject? If you would like to be credible in the baseball world, be careful what you advertise..

2) Jaramillo Scale based on the average major league player? Please explain how in the world you project a 14-15 year old kid comparably to a major league player. Again, as someone who has done this for a living...I am very interested in how someone can project a kid who throws 80mph as a 15 year old? There are so many variables to consider. It is mind boggling. It CANNOT be done...at least not with any validity.

3) Rudy and Tony's hitting instruction is well known and well respected. I just think it would be extremely difficult for them to have much involvement with the program...aside from a few off season months.

Thank you for the ongoing dialogue and keeping it constructive.


This is good dialogue and thank you for your interest.

No offense taken.........It's actually funny to read in your post......"From what you have said so far"....and then you go on to say things that I did not say and then you caution "me" about being credible.

Again, no offense taken. This is what I mean when I say we are different. I guess we are coming at it from such a dramatically different direction that it's a hard concept for people to grasp. People seem to have been tainted by the "select ball" theology and cannot understand an instructional approach. In my opinion, it has become too much about the results and not enough about the processes.

1) If you'll look back, I don't think you can find where I've made any claims about improving arm strength, velocity, power, or speed. I have never said anything, in any post, about improving those things. Although, we have several players with velocity gains of 7-8 MPH, and players with 60 time improvements of .5 or more, and catchers' pop times that have shown improvements of .4 since last fall, those are not the measurements we use to determine our success.

If you'll check, all I've ever said is that we focus on fundamentals, technique, polish, mental approach and the overall "professional presence" of our players. I said we try to be "the most fundamentally sound players on the field" and "when we win, we win because our players are successful in the application of our training principles".

2) Again, this JS rating is not a "projection" of tools or future physical ability. As I stated, the "Jaramillo Scale" of professional development is an "in-house" unit of measurement, developed by Aaron Jaramillo, and it's based on the average major league player. We use it to determine the training requirements and the training priorities for our players. It is entirely subjective and means nothing to anyone but us.

Look at a major league player, and a 15 year old kid and notice the difference in their fundamental skills. (Not physical ability but how do they look when they play?) For that matter, look at a 15 year old American player and compare him to a 15 year old Venezuelan or Dominican player that's been trained in one of the baseball academies.

Notice the difference in polish and technique. What about how they prepare for a game or approach it mentally. Do they do the little things that the pro scouts look for? Do they set up right on a ground ball. Do they position the glove correctly? Do they carry their last error or bad at-bat to the next play? Do they have a "port-folio" on defense? Are they mentally tough enough to grind through momentum changes, bad calls, errors and strike outs and stay focused on the next pitch? Can they control their emotions? Can they maintain positive self talk? That's what our JS ratings are based on.

3) Again, I've never said anywhere that Rudy was any more to Aaron or Tony or this organization than Uncle Rudy. He is not involved in any day to day activites or decisions. He has come out several times. He is always there for both Aaron and Tony if they need him just as any loving uncle would be. This uncle just happens to be considered the greatest hitting instructor in the history of baseball and he has taught the same principles to his nephews, Tony AND Aaron.

I also stated very clearly that Tony joins us in the fall during his "off-season" and then returns to the Red's when they require him to return.

Aaron created this organization and he is the sole owner and director of all things JBC and his family is just that, his family. All three of them talk hitting all the time. Collectively, they constantly look for ways to improve their instruction and training effectiveness and they attempt to evolve together.

Aaron Jaramillo has had the benefit of learning from both his uncle and his brother. Aaron has also had to develop several training methods, on his own, that are specific to the amateur player that would not work with a pro player. Training a player that has not already reached the professional level brings a completely different set of challenges (building a swing instead of fine tuning) and calls for a step by step process and approach. You cannot give them too much information too soon. It has to be a process and if you rush it, the player will struggle and may lose confidence in the program.

In addition to the JS rating, Aaron has also developed many other innovative ideas including the "360" approach to hitting that teaches the hitters how to make mid at-bat and mid-game adjustments. Again, our focus is on teaching.

Hope this more clearly states our approach and philosophy.
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Originally posted by Newscout:
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In the games that we lost, we were having success and we got comfortable failed to execute on some plays, it drove our pitch count up and we ran out of pitching. Our players learned the importance of playing one pitch at a time and how a small mistake can lead to a series of mistakes and change the game down the line. If we were not playing older players,

Keep in mind, we didn't go into the games to win. We went into the games to learn
*If we were not playing older players, it would not have been so glaring and critical. Playing players our age, it is easier to overcome and then overlook when it doesn't cost you the game.*


Ok I can’t sit this one out. You say it is not about winning but there are 4 or 5 pictures on the front page of your website and Head Lines like “16’s WIN at Craig Ranch”

Also you say you get nothing out of playing teams your own age so your teams play up. I don’t call playing a 16 year old tournament at Craig Ranch playing up. If you want to play up play your 16’s in an 18U tournament in Dallas against the Tigers, Mustangs, and Dbat. I promise you will get plenty of success learning how to deal with failure. This was your best commit on this topic.

*In the games that we lost, we were having success and we got comfortable failed to execute on some plays, it drove our pitch count up and we ran out of pitching. Our players learned the importance of playing one pitch at a time and how a small mistake can lead to a series of mistakes and change the game down the line. *


WOW.......so much negative feedback and so many examples of a world full of hate and doubt.....such a shame.

After this thread, I'm thinking we should hold some reading and comprehension classes. Every negative response contains incorrect interpretations and outright misquotes. Why is that?

If you will read all the posts, and pay attention to the dates on the web site, it will probably help you in your understanding.

As I stated, we will post wins and losses and acknowledge team successes. Winning is fun and desirable but not the ultimate goal. What is hard to understand about that? What we teach is that winning and success can blind you from the truth and failure can help you see. We went out and proved our philosphy to be accurate, right after we had some success, by playing far below our potential and stinking it up on the field. That was all mental. After we played some of our worst baseball of the season, we went out and played exceptional. Hmmmm.....go figure.

Again, why do people try and put words into my statements? I never said we "get nothing out of playing teams our own age". I said that the mistakes are not as glaring or critical as they are when playing older teams.

As far as playing up, except for three players, our 16U team was all 15's with a couple of 14 yr old 8th graders thrown in there this spring. In the fall they were 14's with some 15's thrown in there.

As far as playing some of those teams you mentioned, it wasn't for a lack of trying....We attempted to get into some local tournaments this spring in order to compete against those type teams, but were told on one occasion that their tournaments were full and "invitation only", and some others said they did not have room for us. If you can find a way for us to get into those tournaments, we will be more than happy to play. We don't care who we play. We play to get better.

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