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Johnny Damon

Glove ManGlove Man1,000+ posts
By all means please do the Red Sox nation a favor and contact Theo!

Tell him you have some very important information you need to relay to Damon, tell him that his future contracts and earning potential depend on it!

I'm sure he can be reached on his cell phone this afternoon, the main number can put you right through to him!

Boston Red Sox
Fenway Park
4 Yawkey Way
Boston, MA 02215
Phone: (617) 267-9440

It worked for the Astros.....right BlueDog? biglaugh
B bbscout1,000+ posts
IMO, he does have an ugly swing, but this year,(his 10th in the big leagues) he hit .304 with 35 doubles and 20 home runs. He scored 123 runs and drove in 94 from the lead off spot. The 37 million he has made so far in his career can buy lots of burgers.

Bonds IMO has a great swing, but he still came up short in the post season 5 times. He came through once.
T Teacherman500+ posts
Consistently........did you miss that word?...........

He consistently hits the ball into the ground. A technique I know you don't favor.

He does not consistently hit line drives, at least not on the consistent level like the good mlb hitters.

He has the worst swing that I've seen in mlb. (I haven't seen them all)

Take away his speed and he hits .250.
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B bbscout1,000+ posts
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Originally posted by bbscout:
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Originally posted by Teacherman:
Take his speed away and he's lucky to hit .250. Maybe not a major leaguer.

Fix his swing and he could hit .350.

It's physcially impossible to consistently time pitchers with his mechanics.


He has been timing major league pitchers for ten years now. Saying that it is impossible is incorrect.


ok, he has been consistantly timing mlb pitchers for 10 years and has been a very successful player.As I mentioned before, he hit 20 home runs this year.......I don't think they were on the ground.

Take away his speed??? Take away Bonds power and he does not hit many home runs either. Take away Randy Johnson's fastball and what do you have? Take away Rivera's cutter and what do you have? Take away Matheny's glove and what do you have?
T Teacherman500+ posts
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...Take away his speed??? Take away Bonds power and he does not hit many home runs either. Take away Randy Johnson's fastball and what do you have? Take away Rivera's cutter and what do you have? Take away Matheny's glove and what do you have?


OK if I must explain it to you......

Damons speed has nothing to do with his ability to get sweet squared. Has nothing to do with his ability to hit the ball squarely.

Bonds power has everthing to do with his hitting ability. Johnson's power has everything to do with his ability to throw the baseball. Rivera's arm has everything to do with what he does.

Take away Matheny's glove and you have a scout.
P PhoenixDad100+ posts
Teacherman:

I've heard it said that good MLB hitters are "freaks of nature" ... and no HS player who wants to progress to the college level should ever try and imitate any of them.

I also hear Bobby Valentine say that there is only one way to pitch, it had been proven scientifically, and he didn't understand why MLB Clubs didn't teach all of their pitching coaches to only instruct the one "right" method. His goal (I guess) was to eliminate arm problems.

Sorry ... both wrong.

It's possible to train through a flaw. It's possible to know how you react, or throw so well, that a quirk in your hitting/pitching mechanics changes to an advantage.

If there were only one way to hit, then every hitter would have the same holes in their swing ... pitchers advantage. If there were only one way to pitch, no knuckle-baller or "submariner" would ever make it to the bigs.

There ISN'T one correct way to hit. Everyone's body, reaction speed and psyche are different. Damon is in a horrible slump, but this too shall pass.
B bbscout1,000+ posts
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Originally posted by Teacherman:
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...Take away his speed??? Take away Bonds power and he does not hit many home runs either. Take away Randy Johnson's fastball and what do you have? Take away Rivera's cutter and what do you have? Take away Matheny's glove and what do you have?


OK if I must explain it to you......

Damons speed has nothing to do with his ability to get sweet squared. Has nothing to do with his ability to hit the ball squarely.

Bonds power has everthing to do with his hitting ability. Johnson's power has everything to do with his ability to throw the baseball. Rivera's arm has everything to do with what he does.

Take away Matheny's glove and you have a scout.



You have not explained anything.Explain why Damon hit 20 home runs and had 94 RBI out of the lead off spot.

What is sweet squared?????

Like I said before, Take away Bonds power and what do you have? Take away Johnsons Fastball and what do you have???? etc. etc. Damon's speed is one of his tools, and so are the 20 home runs.
T Teacherman500+ posts
Sweet squared is sweet part of ball on sweet part of bat.

If you can't understand what I'm saying then explain to me what Johnson's running speed has to do with his pitching. Or Rivera's.

Because if Damon's running speed has something to do with his ability to hit the ball then I'm sure Johnson's running speed must have something to do with his throwing ability.

As for Ichiro......he's another example of a hitter in group 2. Have you seen him drive the ball in bp? There's much more there.

Finally, why didn't you teach Brett to swing down like Damon does????????
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B bbscout1,000+ posts
I understand exactly what you are saying. Your problem is that you think that there is only one way to hit a ball sucessfully, and that is not true. Damon is a successful major league hitter, and his numbers over a long period of time prove that. Would I teach his method of hitting.......no. He is self taught, and has done a very good job, and has not let anyone mess him up, and his bank account is proof.
P PhoenixDad100+ posts
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Originally posted by Teacherman:
As for Ichiro......he's another example of a hitter in group 2. Have you seen him drive the ball in bp? There's much more there.

There you have it folks ... Ichiro doesn't hit the ball right. He doesn't pass TM's physical correctness test.

Results are meaningless. Hits per season, a worthless stat. Batting average ditto. Seattle needs to unload this looser as quickly as possible.

Wait a minute .... could there be a tiny chance that TM is wrong? Nahhh. He's repeated this so often it must be true.

Where's my spoon.
T Teacherman500+ posts
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...Damon is a successful major league hitter, and his numbers over a long period of time prove that. Would I teach his method of hitting.......no. He is self taught, and has done a very good job, and has not let anyone mess him up, and his bank account is proof.


All true and unrelated to our topic.........which is Damons swing. Maybe the worst in the game and it keeps him from reaching a higher level.
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B bbscout1,000+ posts
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Originally posted by Teacherman:
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...Damon is a successful major league hitter, and his numbers over a long period of time prove that. Would I teach his method of hitting.......no. He is self taught, and has done a very good job, and has not let anyone mess him up, and his bank account is proof.



All true and unrelated to our topic.........which is Damons swing. Maybe the worst in the game and it keeps him from reaching a higher level.


You don't know that. It is just your opinion. You might work with him and mess him up. Who have you taught and where are they at?
DaddyBoDaddyBo100+ posts
O.K...I'll take another stab at it...Dog and Teach...why not give it a rest? duel I think most everyone else reading this understands what's being "said"...trivialize over semantics elsewhere. Damon's got an ugly swing, but he's a productive major league hitter. You ever watch Pedro pitch? I guess he's not quality either because it hurts to watch that delivery over and over. Eek It's a stretch but, if a guy were to hit .100 if he were slow, yet adds 200 points with his speed, I can use him! It's one of the "tools" last time I checked. Roll Eyes
B bbscout1,000+ posts
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Originally posted by BlueDog:
"Take away Bonds power and he does not hit many home runs either."

Bbscout, I was gonna comment on this statement, but, decided against it.....I can't imagine what you were thinking.........And, I'm thanful for that.......

I hope you get plenty of rest!!!!!... Roll Eyes


It means the same thing as taking away Damon's speed. hope you get some rest too.
StudentofthegameStudentofthegame100+ posts
posted October 20, 2004 10:34 AM by Teacherman


"I get a kick out of watching Damon swing almost straight down and hit the ball directly into the ground in front of home plate.........when his timing is good.

He's actually very good at what he's doing.

Question is.....why does he want to do that? "


You are right- That bomb he dropped off Vasquez - must of been due to his good timing- such critics!
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