No, Traveldad, I think I'm with you on this one. It's getting old to listen to people slam the Sparks, Top Tier, etc.
If you want to be a Spark, Top Tier, etc, then go try out for their team. If you don't...or if you can't...then keep it to yourself.
My son is a Spark. But that doesn't make me despise all the others. If it weren't for the others, then we wouldn't have the excellent competition we get to play.
Are the Sparks the best program ever? How about Top Tier? I don't know. But this program has been very good to my son so far.
Just stop telling everyone that they're wrong just because they're not you.
whether they are 4-0 or 2-2 they get got a free entry. So did the Midwest Blazers, it might have something to do with their relationship with perfect game. But whenever people receive free bids to things other people will question that and claim they haven't earned it. To my knowledge Cangelosi is the only program with 2 automatic bids, why is that? why isn't there another IL team that has an automatic bid? Maybe some teams were offered it and didn't want to go, maybe they don't have the relationship with PG. Either way, I am sure people are wondering why, that's all. It's not a knock on them it's a question. Have they went down there and done well, yes.
I dont know the answer to the sectionals question. I left the area in May and just got back last week.
You do not get bids to that tournament unless you put a very good team out on that field.
I know some people are getting mad that teams get bids, but perfect game has to put the best teams with the best players in this tournament and if it was left up to only a play in tournament, WWBA would not have the best teams in it.
Maybe what a lot of you guys(nails, itsrosy, highheat, etc.) instead of complaining and trying to rip people and kids down, should reach out to Bill or Dave and ask them how that stuff happens or how they built the program to be as prestigious as it is. I know that they would have no problem talking to anyone about it, because to them, it REALLY IS ABOUT THE KIDS AND NOT THEIR PROGRAM.
I dont coach for the sparks but I will help them out as much as I can because they are quality people and want to get every kid to college.
Sometimes I do not even know why I look on here because it makes me sick to think, there are so many men out there that would rather, cry and complain and make excuses or sit around here with an entitlement mindset, wondering who is screwing them over. When really, get over yourselves and get teaching young men about the game of baseball and how to mature and be men.
This is my rant, I guess. I saw it in college, I see it now in professional baseball and especially see it in these kids I work with around here. Too many of them do not want to take accountability for themselves and think everything should be theirs and if they dont get it, they look around for who is to blame.
I guess, I am starting to realize where it is coming from if some of the guys on here are coaching kids or are parents. Sorry if that is harsh, but calling it like I see it. Most of my job is spent not only coaching baseball but enforcing a level of accountability that kids are sorely missing.
Maybe we all(myself included) should take a break from this baseball stuff and start talking about how to effectively teach this generation of young men how to be genuine men of integrity who are accountable for their actions and dont make excuses.
thats all I got boys, I myself am wasting time on here.
You do not get bids to that tournament unless you put a very good team out on that field.
I know some people are getting mad that teams get bids, but perfect game has to put the best teams with the best players in this tournament and if it was left up to only a play in tournament, WWBA would not have the best teams in it.
Maybe what a lot of you guys(nails, itsrosy, highheat, etc.) instead of complaining and trying to rip people and kids down, should reach out to Bill or Dave and ask them how that stuff happens or how they built the program to be as prestigious as it is. I know that they would have no problem talking to anyone about it, because to them, it REALLY IS ABOUT THE KIDS AND NOT THEIR PROGRAM.
I dont coach for the sparks but I will help them out as much as I can because they are quality people and want to get every kid to college.
Sometimes I do not even know why I look on here because it makes me sick to think, there are so many men out there that would rather, cry and complain and make excuses or sit around here with an entitlement mindset, wondering who is screwing them over. When really, get over yourselves and get teaching young men about the game of baseball and how to mature and be men.
This is my rant, I guess. I saw it in college, I see it now in professional baseball and especially see it in these kids I work with around here. Too many of them do not want to take accountability for themselves and think everything should be theirs and if they dont get it, they look around for who is to blame.
I guess, I am starting to realize where it is coming from if some of the guys on here are coaching kids or are parents. Sorry if that is harsh, but calling it like I see it. Most of my job is spent not only coaching baseball but enforcing a level of accountability that kids are sorely missing.
Maybe we all(myself included) should take a break from this baseball stuff and start talking about how to effectively teach this generation of young men how to be genuine men of integrity who are accountable for their actions and dont make excuses.
thats all I got boys, I myself am wasting time on here.
Nails,
Here's PGs number in Cedar Rapids:
319-298-2923
Ask them how they pick the teams.
I'm done listening to you complain.
Coach Steeley, wanna come over for a beer? I've got the game on.
Here's PGs number in Cedar Rapids:
319-298-2923
Ask them how they pick the teams.
I'm done listening to you complain.
Coach Steeley, wanna come over for a beer? I've got the game on.
Steeley,
Why get mad and leave so fast. What your saying is right on and something I brought up before only to get the thread deleted because it got on a tangent. Kids are not held accountable for anything, they think by joining a team like the Sparks they are automatically going to get a D1 scholarship and when it doesn't happen they go back and blame the HS coach, the travel coach, whoever. That's why you see so many kids leaving programs and going to another, they think one is going to help them more than the other. Maybe that's true, but ultimately it's up to the kid and how good he is to be seen. There's plenty of events that aren't involved with travel that these kids attend to get noticed.
Alot of them though, won't take coaching, don't listen to people and don't work hard. They think just because they paid money to be on a travel team they are entitled to get a scholarship. They don't realize that it's very very hard to play college baseball and there's a ton of kids working just as hard as you trying to make it. There's 100 showcase events a year that allows college coaches to see a ton of kids. Do some fall through the cracks, yes. But to just expect that your going to get a D1 scholarship because you play for a certain organization or got invited to a showcase is something that alot of kids believe. The hard work and playing the game hard is missing from what it was just 5 years ago. IMO.
Steeley you have great points, hopefully people read what you write and take it to heart. It's hard to get through to everyone though I am sure.
Why get mad and leave so fast. What your saying is right on and something I brought up before only to get the thread deleted because it got on a tangent. Kids are not held accountable for anything, they think by joining a team like the Sparks they are automatically going to get a D1 scholarship and when it doesn't happen they go back and blame the HS coach, the travel coach, whoever. That's why you see so many kids leaving programs and going to another, they think one is going to help them more than the other. Maybe that's true, but ultimately it's up to the kid and how good he is to be seen. There's plenty of events that aren't involved with travel that these kids attend to get noticed.
Alot of them though, won't take coaching, don't listen to people and don't work hard. They think just because they paid money to be on a travel team they are entitled to get a scholarship. They don't realize that it's very very hard to play college baseball and there's a ton of kids working just as hard as you trying to make it. There's 100 showcase events a year that allows college coaches to see a ton of kids. Do some fall through the cracks, yes. But to just expect that your going to get a D1 scholarship because you play for a certain organization or got invited to a showcase is something that alot of kids believe. The hard work and playing the game hard is missing from what it was just 5 years ago. IMO.
Steeley you have great points, hopefully people read what you write and take it to heart. It's hard to get through to everyone though I am sure.
Really proud of the guys down here. Representing the area in a big way.
Once more another great tournament with a whole lot of talent and great teams.
Rosey,
What the hell does the Sparks and our Summer program have to do with Cangelosi baseball and his Fall program????
Seems your panties are in a bunch about things that are water under the bridge. If I recall we ran into your top teir guys at the regional and things didnt work out to well for ya. If you think for one second my team is trying to dodge you fellows in our own area your about as mistaken as when you were the moderater on this site and told me via a private message , rememeber ?? you pm'd me telling me that Casey Crosby had no chance to pitch with us because of your ties with U of Ill and the boys you had committed to go there. That didnt work out real well either. ( Crosby update, ) his last Instructional league outing he sat between 94-97.. OUCH!
If I am not mistaken, our League in Connie Mack didnt have such a team you speak of. Therefore the top two teams from ours Illiana section and the top two from your League made it. If I am not mistaken it was you guys and the longshots.. Its great your so committed and loyal to your guys , even after JR has moved on. But if your trying to take shots at our kids and what we do, enough is enough, you j a c k as s
Enough with you, aint wasting another breath on you and the BS you bring to the table. One thing I know after playing on several championship teams in my career is that when your on top. When your good, people take cheap shots, all losers will... Many try to knock you off , even if it takes idiots like you to discredit a bunch of kids who are really working their asses off to better their game.
Talk is cheap... We play the game hard, we play the game with respect and we hold the kids accountable for their actions, much the same as HS coaches and college coaches will do.
SMOKEY
Great to hear from you.. Miss ya man..
You would appreciate the way thse s****** little dudes are gettin it done. Complete team effort and a whole lot energy. Its really neat to see kids from all over the area coming together and having a blast.
Some 09's getting it done..
Chris Savis from Willowbrook is seeing it real well.
Matt Milroy from Marmion Academy is taking major strides. Did some 91's off the hill today. He's perty good.
Steven Dalporto from Naz is playing solid ball ,
Oak Park River Forests Sam Picchiotti is a dirt bag and will make Wright State a good player real fast.
ND's Mike Kane is putting the barrell on the ball on a regular basis.
Jake Naumann from Naperville North is going to be a dandy this Spring, sat 86-87 with a filthy spliter.
Pat Gannon, LHP Brother Rice is missing many bats. Same ole Same ole.
Naperville Centrals Pat Kaminska and Batavias Brian Krolokowski will get it tomorrow.
Some 10's making bigimpacts and opening the eyes of a gazillion schools is Joliet Townships catcher Mike Hollenbeck.
LHP Anthony Andres , St Rita HS , has picked off most of the kids he has put on. (which hasnt been many)
Justin Kopale, St Rita HS can pick it a bit..
Brandon Hohl from Lincoln Way East is a player and U of Illinois will be glad to see him next Fall. At a boy B.. Tuzy, much to be proud of my friend.
Mark Payton is as good a lead off hitter as I have coached.
Lasalle Perus RHP David Suarez, looked really good yesterday on the hill.
Naperville Norths Charlie White is a baseball player... Instincts ooze from the kid.
Rosey, if you would like to pm me agian, its been a while, feel free.
I'll fill you in on a story one of my parents let me on. when your guys coaches tried to hold the under armour games at wrigley over one of the kids that play for us. You most likley know, its your boys little gig. The part I really didnt like was when he would be invited only if he switched teams this upcoming Summer. To your team. That didnt work out too well either.
Lets talk again soon
Once more another great tournament with a whole lot of talent and great teams.
Rosey,
What the hell does the Sparks and our Summer program have to do with Cangelosi baseball and his Fall program????
Seems your panties are in a bunch about things that are water under the bridge. If I recall we ran into your top teir guys at the regional and things didnt work out to well for ya. If you think for one second my team is trying to dodge you fellows in our own area your about as mistaken as when you were the moderater on this site and told me via a private message , rememeber ?? you pm'd me telling me that Casey Crosby had no chance to pitch with us because of your ties with U of Ill and the boys you had committed to go there. That didnt work out real well either. ( Crosby update, ) his last Instructional league outing he sat between 94-97.. OUCH!
If I am not mistaken, our League in Connie Mack didnt have such a team you speak of. Therefore the top two teams from ours Illiana section and the top two from your League made it. If I am not mistaken it was you guys and the longshots.. Its great your so committed and loyal to your guys , even after JR has moved on. But if your trying to take shots at our kids and what we do, enough is enough, you j a c k as s
Enough with you, aint wasting another breath on you and the BS you bring to the table. One thing I know after playing on several championship teams in my career is that when your on top. When your good, people take cheap shots, all losers will... Many try to knock you off , even if it takes idiots like you to discredit a bunch of kids who are really working their asses off to better their game.
Talk is cheap... We play the game hard, we play the game with respect and we hold the kids accountable for their actions, much the same as HS coaches and college coaches will do.
SMOKEY
Great to hear from you.. Miss ya man..
You would appreciate the way thse s****** little dudes are gettin it done. Complete team effort and a whole lot energy. Its really neat to see kids from all over the area coming together and having a blast.
Some 09's getting it done..
Chris Savis from Willowbrook is seeing it real well.
Matt Milroy from Marmion Academy is taking major strides. Did some 91's off the hill today. He's perty good.
Steven Dalporto from Naz is playing solid ball ,
Oak Park River Forests Sam Picchiotti is a dirt bag and will make Wright State a good player real fast.
ND's Mike Kane is putting the barrell on the ball on a regular basis.
Jake Naumann from Naperville North is going to be a dandy this Spring, sat 86-87 with a filthy spliter.
Pat Gannon, LHP Brother Rice is missing many bats. Same ole Same ole.
Naperville Centrals Pat Kaminska and Batavias Brian Krolokowski will get it tomorrow.
Some 10's making bigimpacts and opening the eyes of a gazillion schools is Joliet Townships catcher Mike Hollenbeck.
LHP Anthony Andres , St Rita HS , has picked off most of the kids he has put on. (which hasnt been many)
Justin Kopale, St Rita HS can pick it a bit..
Brandon Hohl from Lincoln Way East is a player and U of Illinois will be glad to see him next Fall. At a boy B.. Tuzy, much to be proud of my friend.
Mark Payton is as good a lead off hitter as I have coached.
Lasalle Perus RHP David Suarez, looked really good yesterday on the hill.
Naperville Norths Charlie White is a baseball player... Instincts ooze from the kid.
Rosey, if you would like to pm me agian, its been a while, feel free.
I'll fill you in on a story one of my parents let me on. when your guys coaches tried to hold the under armour games at wrigley over one of the kids that play for us. You most likley know, its your boys little gig. The part I really didnt like was when he would be invited only if he switched teams this upcoming Summer. To your team. That didnt work out too well either.
Lets talk again soon
Nails,
once again...
Blah Blah Blah Blah.....
We dont promise kids anything but a place to play.
A place to expand their games and play. And much to many peoples surprise , we teach the kids what it means to be a part of something.
once again...
Blah Blah Blah Blah.....
We dont promise kids anything but a place to play.
A place to expand their games and play. And much to many peoples surprise , we teach the kids what it means to be a part of something.
One more thing, dont mis inform these people, enough of that going on here..
We get nothing for free from PG. We pay our entry just like every one else does. So save it.
We get nothing for free from PG. We pay our entry just like every one else does. So save it.
Coach Steely-
It is what is wrong with America, one word, ENTITLEMENT.
It is what is wrong with America, one word, ENTITLEMENT.
.
You mean Jerry won't even pop for one of these?
quote:Originally posted by deucedoc:
We get nothing for free from PG.
You mean Jerry won't even pop for one of these?
quote:Originally posted by itsrosy:
With the regiment of Sparks guys all over this thread, maybe we can finally get an answer that's been asked a few times and by a few different posters. Can anyone tell me where the 2008 Illiana Sectional in the Connie Mack WS was played, and who the Sparks beat to move on to Michigan? It seems like a very simple, direct question but it has never been answered.
Um who cares?
When you present a quality product year in and year out with people who don't act and feel like they are entitled others will roll out the red carpet for you.
DD, I'm not taking any shots at any players. I asked a simple question that has gone unanswered for 3 months. It could have been answered without all the theatrics. I don't know where Illiana is, still don't know for that matter. If you feel it necessary to make a personal attack, go right ahead. Losers, I don't identify or associate with them, never have.
What do you call hijacking a thread that was supposed to be about the kids in Jupiter? What is all this **** from highheat and you? Is this the place for it?
Tuz, no it's not. But I got my one question answered, I think, and that's the end. I sincerely wish all the area boys continued success in Fla.
quote:they get got a free entry. So did the Midwest Blazers, it might have something to do with their relationship with perfect game. But whenever people receive free bids to things other people will question that and claim they haven't earned it.
FYI we have been invited to and participated in all but 1 of the Jupiter events. The only year we didn’t go was 2000. You could say we were a "founding" member.
I'd also like to think we've earned the chance to go by putting a good product out on the field but that's not for me to decide, it’s for someone else to decide.
For years we've invited players from other Midwest travel teams to go and play in this event. A number of them have taken us up on the offer, and I'd say 99% of them had a great experience. We asked a number of kids this year and many of them turned it down. Blows my mind that kids wouldn't want to get to this event but what do I know?
I'm not sure what all the complaining is about. We've had a working relationship with PG since 2000 and I'd like to think that counts for something.
Everyone has choices in this world. Many of the deserving players could have played with us or Cangy's teams in the fall and gotten a chance to go to Jupiter. They chose not to. Now it's some sort of conspiracy that certain kids were kept out?
The choices we make have consequences and rewards. We made a choice long ago that Perfect Game had the best thing going for kids. We felt they were in this thing for all the right reasons. Ever since then, we’ve made a choice to do as many of their events as we can and it’s been the best thing for our program.
If certain people don't like it, make a different choice...or win one of the qualifiers.
I really don't think it's rocket science.
Congrats to BC and the Cangy team as well as the St Louis Pirates! Both have had well deserved success.
Duece,
How did Dan Huenecke from Palatine throw done there?
How did Dan Huenecke from Palatine throw done there?
Coach, Dan pitched on Saturday against the Dulin Dodgers from TN. He pitched well in a 7-1 win. Bill will be back after today's actions.
Cangy defeats the FL Bombers Scout team in the 1st round of the play-offs, 4-1. Batavia's Krolikowski gets the W, St. Rita's Andres gets the S, Notre Dame's Kane (aka Sulltiger's kid) goes 2-2 w/ 2 triples, 3 RBIs, and 1 run scored. Cangy will get the winner of the Royals Baseball Club (rostered with kids from 18 different states,) or Team Elite from GA in the round of 8.
) or Team Elite from GA in the round of 8.
Cangy defeats the Royals Baseball Club 3-0. Congradulations to Napeverville Central's Pat Kaminska who threw a NO HITTER. Cangy will face the Texas Scout Team Yankees in final four play.
Jesus, I must sound like Dolphin Mom. When is CPLZ going to ask for me to get tossed?
Jesus, I must sound like Dolphin Mom. When is CPLZ going to ask for me to get tossed?
Great Job Pat!
Atta boy Patrick!!!
thanks men
quote:Originally posted by Tuzigoot:
When is CPLZ going to ask for me to get tossed?
What makes you think I haven't?
WOW, way to go Pat! A no no in Elite 8 play....wonder if that's been done before?
Who takes the bump for the noon tilt?
Cangy and the Texas Scout Team Yankees are tied 1-1 in extra innings. Brother Rice's Gannon and Naperville North's Naumann on the bump for Cangy. Herscher's Highland doubles off wall in RF moving Naz's DalPorto to 3rd who scores on St. Rita's Kopale's SF. Tie break system is last 3 batter's from the previous inning on the bags, and 1 out.
Hey, I'm gonna get all these kids suspended.
Hey, I'm gonna get all these kids suspended.
The first extra inning is over, neither team scored.
This game is unbelievable. Naumann goes full to the clean-up hitter with the bags loaded and two out, and strikes him out.
Cangy up 3-1 going in to the bottom 1/2 of the inning.
Cangi just scored two. Gotta hold 'em.
CANGELOSI BASEBALL WILL PLAY FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP OF THE PERFECT GAME WWBA CHAMPIONSHIP. CONGRADULATIONS BOYS, A 3-1 VICTORY OVER TEXAS SCOUT TEAM YANKEES. THEY WILL PLAY THE ABD BULLDOGS FROM CA AT 230PM EST.
Good Luck...win or lose it was a great run!!!!!!!
WOW!!!
I'm realizing everyone on here is a Sparks guy. NO wonder you all think the same and stick up for one another and go crazy if someone makes any comment that slightly might be different than travel baseball or what the Sparks do. It also answers why you don't hear much about any other organization on here and if you do people discredit them very quickly on these boards.
Either way that's a great showing, good luck.
Either way that's a great showing, good luck.
click....ignore.
How typical from you - this isnt about the Sparks, or anyone else except the boys playing. Do you have a clue what kind of accomplishment it is even getting out of your pool let alone this far and maybe even winning it?.
If any team in Il did this we should be proud of the kids.
If you want to hear about other organizations, lets talk about yours?, or what it used to be?.
If any team in Il did this we should be proud of the kids.
If you want to hear about other organizations, lets talk about yours?, or what it used to be?.
Nails,
Everyone on here is not a Sparks guy, they are just happy for the accomplishment of an Illinois team.
Why don't you just can your off target observations and put them on some other thread and let us be happy for these kids, here, please.
Tuz & NC, please keep us up to speed as best you can on the championship game...this is very exciting for Illinois
Everyone on here is not a Sparks guy, they are just happy for the accomplishment of an Illinois team.
Why don't you just can your off target observations and put them on some other thread and let us be happy for these kids, here, please.
Tuz & NC, please keep us up to speed as best you can on the championship game...this is very exciting for Illinois
I don't think we bash other's accomplishments. We didn't hi-jack the other programs thread last year when they were in Farmington. Rather, their fathers were having a fun 'ole time talking about where we were in their thread. How fun is that. In one father's comments "what comes around goes around." THATS FOR SURE. No matter what happens in this game, it is a great accomplishment for the kids and everyone that has had a hand in their development (hs and travel coaches), travel and high school programs; and has put our area and all of kids even more on the map. And thats good for all the kids no matter who the play for. Nails your a **********, and all you do is instigate.
Our program, our kids, our coaches, the way we play, and who we partner with (Perfect
Game, Cangelosi, Bulls, Pirates, Outlaws, Blazers, Redbirds, Dodgers, and anyone I missed I'm sorry I'm just a dad); attracts kids and their families to our program.
And when that big white pimple off of 355 opens next week, I just think we'll have our cake and eat it to (if I share with anyone).
How Dave Payton, Bill Copp and John Cangelosi have built this program; should be a model of how to do it.
Go luck to you all.
Go East, go Sparks, Go Cangy and Go Illini!
Our program, our kids, our coaches, the way we play, and who we partner with (Perfect
Game, Cangelosi, Bulls, Pirates, Outlaws, Blazers, Redbirds, Dodgers, and anyone I missed I'm sorry I'm just a dad); attracts kids and their families to our program.
And when that big white pimple off of 355 opens next week, I just think we'll have our cake and eat it to (if I share with anyone).
How Dave Payton, Bill Copp and John Cangelosi have built this program; should be a model of how to do it.
Go luck to you all.
Go East, go Sparks, Go Cangy and Go Illini!
I said it was a great showing and offered them some luck. I know it's a great accomplishment. Didn't realize how many people's kids were on the team that typically write on here that's all. Funny, how you guys can see fault in me making an observation. Whose the paranoid one's?
There's some great talent in Illinois, we can only hope that more of the Illinois kids can get a chance to play in a tournament like this and show their talent. From what I read on here prior, there's only one team from ILLinois that gets to go though. Don't think it's off-target. I'm proud of the boys and they obviously played very well in this tournament and should be proud.
There's some great talent in Illinois, we can only hope that more of the Illinois kids can get a chance to play in a tournament like this and show their talent. From what I read on here prior, there's only one team from ILLinois that gets to go though. Don't think it's off-target. I'm proud of the boys and they obviously played very well in this tournament and should be proud.
Like a said Nails, your a **********. You always throw in a compliment to get a pass on the attacks in you posts. Who knows, now maybe PG has to recognize the MW programs more, or maybe he gives the Sparks/Cangelosi another bid. Or maybe nothing changes.
quote:Originally posted by Nails:
From what I read on here prior, there's only one team from ILLinois that gets to go though.
Wrong.
Now, again, I ask nicely, please stop. There is no need for any further comment from you on this thread.
The teams are tied 1-1. I have to pick up my daughter from school. You can watch it live on the baseballwebtv.com or something like that.