ok, long toss is great for arm strength, but how long in distance is important. So, how far (in distance) should a thirteen-fourteen year old be playing long toss, how long (time per day), and how many times a week?
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My recommendation... I would say that you should play long toss for like 30 min or so. The distance should get as far away from the other person that you can with throwing the ball on one hop to the other person, without hurting your arm. In time, your distance will get farther apart. In my experience, it really worked. After I have TJ surgery, I started at 30ft. That is all the farther I could throw. I did my rehab and like 9 months later, I was and still am throwing about 300ft-330ft with no pain. Be sure to stretch out good before you do long toss though.
Alex
Alex
There are two parts to long toss. When you are increasing the distance and moving towards your longest distance, be sure to throw the ball on a high arch. This stretches out the muscles in your arm. Once you reach your maximum distance, continue to throw the ball on a high arch to your partner. Then, as you start to move in, throw the ball on a line. This is the strengthening part of long toss. The combonation of stretching out the arm and then strengthening the arm will give you the greatest results. Throwing the ball on a line too early during long toss can lead to tight muscles and possible injury.
im 15 and the FARTHEST i can throw in long toss is 150 ft. at average i like to throw 120 ft. i do alot of this cuz i wuz out of baseball for about 1 1/2 years but im back to throwing my 75-80 4-seamer! i love throwing fastballs so i focus on long toss alot.
I am wondering how many throws you should throw from your furthest distance apart?
Thanks
plp556
Thanks
plp556
plp556,
I would say throw about 20 to 30 throws each and then come on in a little bit untill you can consistantly make your throws flat.
I would say throw about 20 to 30 throws each and then come on in a little bit untill you can consistantly make your throws flat.
quote:Originally posted by #44:
im 15 and the FARTHEST i can throw in long toss is 150 ft. at average i like to throw 120 ft. i do alot of this cuz i wuz out of baseball for about 1 1/2 years but im back to throwing my 75-80 4-seamer! i love throwing fastballs so i focus on long toss alot.
SORRY MATE, BUT IF YOU ARE ONLY THROWING 150ft
YOUR MPH WOULD ONLY BE AROUND 50 NOT 80MPH
Not true judd some people can throw hard, but not far.
quote:Originally posted by mtownfan:
Not true judd some people can throw hard, but n
not far.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN ..PLEASE
You can throw 100 miles an hour 60 ft 6 in can't you? Why not 80 miles an hour 150 ft?
Mtown,
Are you trying to say that is correct to try and throw really hard in long toss?
Are you trying to say that is correct to try and throw really hard in long toss?
No not at all. Judd said the kid can't be throwing 80 if he can only throw 150 ft. in long toss. I told him that is not neccessarily true.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mtownfan:
You can throw 100 miles an hour 60 ft 6 in can't you? Why not 80 miles an hour 150 ft?[/QUOTe
i can see what you are saying yes you can throw 80 over 150 ft but 44 said the FARTHEST he could long toss was 150ft but then said that he could throw 80 mph..if he has the ability to throw 80mph then physics say at a 35-40 degree arm release point(pitching) a 80mph baseball with not to big of an arch will go 260 ft..by the way im not trying to put the lad down ,good luck to him, im just applying physics to the conversation....
You can throw 100 miles an hour 60 ft 6 in can't you? Why not 80 miles an hour 150 ft?[/QUOTe
i can see what you are saying yes you can throw 80 over 150 ft but 44 said the FARTHEST he could long toss was 150ft but then said that he could throw 80 mph..if he has the ability to throw 80mph then physics say at a 35-40 degree arm release point(pitching) a 80mph baseball with not to big of an arch will go 260 ft..by the way im not trying to put the lad down ,good luck to him, im just applying physics to the conversation....
judd,
I like what you are saying. You could be right I don't know, but I still think it is possible that he can throw 80 but not 260 JMO.
I like what you are saying. You could be right I don't know, but I still think it is possible that he can throw 80 but not 260 JMO.
quote:Originally posted by mtownfan:
judd,
I like what you are saying. You could be right I don't know, but I still think it is possible that he can throw 80 but not 260 JMO.
hello mate, all i was saying is what i have read im new to baseball so dont go to hard on me ,although i do follow the rockies(i know laugh)but the rockies are the only team to get back to me about tryouts..i have just started pitching and i am pitching my fastball at 98-100mph and my long toss is around 355-361ft that is why i stand by what i have read... J.C
All,
On long toss....I had Tommy John surgery and when I was rehabbing long toss is a big part on getting your arm strength back. Right now, I can throw long toss, on a line (8-12ft off the ground), about 300 ft. I throw about 90-92mph. I am not a pitcher and I dont work on long toss a lot either. I am sure I would be able to throw father, but when playing shortstop or 3B, that is good. My arm is very strong now and long toss helped. Also, when throwing loss toss, to be able to throw harder and father, stretch it out. Throw so that the ball will one hop the person you are throwing too. You do not necessarily need to throw it on a line for the person to catch it. Eventually you will get to that point, but not right away. Only make 5-8 throws of this length though, as you dont want to hurt your arm. The last thing I would say is that if you want to have a stronger arm, you need to lift some weights. Strengthen your shoulder and your core muscles. Then, if you pitch, you should really focus on your legs. Just look at Clemens for that. His legs are huge and we all see what he does. He still does long toss on the second day after a start. Help condition his arm and legs. I saw him throwing long toss from foul line to foul line at Miller Park. I dont know how far it was, but he and his partner were about 25 feet from the warning track. Just a little input. Let me know what you all think.
Alex
On long toss....I had Tommy John surgery and when I was rehabbing long toss is a big part on getting your arm strength back. Right now, I can throw long toss, on a line (8-12ft off the ground), about 300 ft. I throw about 90-92mph. I am not a pitcher and I dont work on long toss a lot either. I am sure I would be able to throw father, but when playing shortstop or 3B, that is good. My arm is very strong now and long toss helped. Also, when throwing loss toss, to be able to throw harder and father, stretch it out. Throw so that the ball will one hop the person you are throwing too. You do not necessarily need to throw it on a line for the person to catch it. Eventually you will get to that point, but not right away. Only make 5-8 throws of this length though, as you dont want to hurt your arm. The last thing I would say is that if you want to have a stronger arm, you need to lift some weights. Strengthen your shoulder and your core muscles. Then, if you pitch, you should really focus on your legs. Just look at Clemens for that. His legs are huge and we all see what he does. He still does long toss on the second day after a start. Help condition his arm and legs. I saw him throwing long toss from foul line to foul line at Miller Park. I dont know how far it was, but he and his partner were about 25 feet from the warning track. Just a little input. Let me know what you all think.
Alex
quote:Originally posted by OF_Marshall07:
All,
On long toss....I had Tommy John surgery and when I was rehabbing long toss is a big part on getting your arm strength back. Right now, I can throw long toss, on a line (8-12ft off the ground), about 300 ft. I throw about 90-92mph. I am not a pitcher and I dont work on long toss a lot either. I am sure I would be able to throw father, but when playing shortstop or 3B, that is good. My arm is very strong now and long toss helped. Also, when throwing loss toss, to be able to throw harder and father, stretch it out. Throw so that the ball will one hop the person you are throwing too. You do not necessarily need to throw it on a line for the person to catch it. Eventually you will get to that point, but not right away. Only make 5-8 throws of this length though, as you dont want to hurt your arm. The last thing I would say is that if you want to have a stronger arm, you need to lift some weights. Strengthen your shoulder and your core muscles. Then, if you pitch, you should really focus on your legs. Just look at Clemens for that. His legs are huge and we all see what he does. He still does long toss on the second day after a start. Help condition his arm and legs. I saw him throwing long toss from foul line to foul line at Miller Park. I dont know how far it was, but he and his partner were about 25 feet from the warning track. Just a little input. Let me know what you all think.
Alex
thanks for that J.C
Judd,
Are you serious 100 mph. Wow! Where did you clocked at?
Are you serious 100 mph. Wow! Where did you clocked at?
quote:Originally posted by mtownfan:
Judd,
Are you serious 100 mph. Wow! Where did you clocked at?
HELLO MTOWNFAN
As i play quite a high standard of cricket our training facilaties are very good,and like baseball teams we have our own batting and bowling(pitching)nets(cages)that have a speed radar built in, after team practise i would stay on and do a light workout on my own.
As i am getting into baseball and want to picth
what i do is to try and copy what i see on tv
as you can guess tv over hear is not big on baseball so i dont get much,anyway to answer your question we clocked it about a week ago
at my home cricket ground...as im new to the game anyone out there that can give me any advice on any aspect of the game that would be great...J.C
Do you know that there are only a handful of guys in the majors that throw 100 mph? You really need to get a major league tryout.
quote:Originally posted by mtownfan:
Do you know that there are only a handful of guys in the majors that throw 100 mph? You really need to get a major league tryout.
HELLO MTOWNFAN
thanks for that, no i did not know there are only a few guys that throw that hard i thought there would be pitchers pitching well into the hundreds..I have found the MLB.COM site witch is pretty good ,i have looked on team sites and they only want guys 16-23 i am 29, also i have never even played a game before or held a bat,im learning the rules slowly but im getting there..I see that a major team has many small teams under it that they use to develope players maybe i should contact one of the smaller teams, like i said i have never played before i need alot of coaching or mabye im to old, but i think with the right training i could up my mph a little more, also living in the u.k it makes it difficult to go backwards and forwards to the u.s for tryouts (do you know how long tryouts last is it a day or two or is it more like a week or two)....JC
Most tryouts last for about a week but some are shorter. So you throw a baseball 100 mph or a cricket 100 mph? I would venture to say that there is a difference. If you could really throw 100, then you wouldn't be as unknown as you are. Keep working hard for baseball and see if you can get a good trainer or something.
quote:Originally posted by AKBaseball20:
Most tryouts last for about a week but some are shorter. So you throw a baseball 100 mph or a cricket 100 mph? I would venture to say that there is a difference. If you could really throw 100, then you wouldn't be as unknown as you are. Keep working hard for baseball and see if you can get a good trainer or something.
HELLO AKBASEBALL20
thank you for your advice on tryouts...
im throwing baseballs at 98-100mph and and as for being unknown, yes in baseball terms i am because i have only just picked up a ball recently ,but in my own sport i have many achievments including county and national hounors..anyway im not here to argue i would just like some helpful advice..........J.C
There are MLB addresses on this site. You should try contacting some MLB teams or as you said one of their minor league affiliates. There are some little teams around me you should try. Harrisburg Senators, Reading Phillies, Lancaster Barnstromer, and Scranton Wilkes Barre Red Barons. You should also try the going pro forum and see if anyone can help you there. Good luck.
quote:Originally posted by mtownfan:
There are MLB addresses on this site. You should try contacting some MLB teams or as you said one of their minor league affiliates. There are some little teams around me you should try. Harrisburg Senators, Reading Phillies, Lancaster Barnstromer, and Scranton Wilkes Barre Red Barons. You should also try the going pro forum and see if anyone can help you there. Good luck.
HELLO MTOWNFAN
THANK YOU for your reply this is realy good information thanks!!I will definitely be contacting all of the teams you said about..
I will let you know how i get on ....J.C
Good luck Judd in your aspirations to be a MLB player. I don't think anyone will care what age you are if you can throw 100 mph strikes. Do you throw any other pitches? 
quote:Originally posted by AKBaseball20:
Good luck Judd in your aspirations to be a MLB player. I don't think anyone will care what age you are if you can throw 100 mph strikes. Do you throw any other pitches?
HELLO AKBaseball20
Thanks for the good luck and i hpoe you are right people dont care about my age..all im not sure about is my lack of experience....
I have read that a good change up will compliment a fastball so im woking on that 15-20mph slower i think? also im working on a slider..
thanks again akbaseball20 i will let you know what happens....J.C
quote:Originally posted by hit&run:
judd, is mph the standard measurement in England? Or, do you use kilometers per hour?
Hello hit&run
yes, mph is used as the standard
if you were wondering 100mph is 160.9 kph
So you are really throwing 100 mph and not kph. WOW!
quote:Originally posted by mtownfan:
So you are really throwing 100 mph and not kph. WOW!
HELLO MTOWNFAN
I have had a reply from the asheville tourists(rockies minor league A.team)and they said that unfourtunatly they do not pick who plays for them they get given players from the teams
above and below them..but i have now been given a contact number of the rockies for tryouts
that are on set dates also invotational tryouts can be held at different times.. anyway its 6.48am time to go to the park and get the arm going.....J.C
Keep trying to talk to MLB teams. I think you'll make it someday soon.
quote:Originally posted by mtownfan:
Keep trying to talk to MLB teams. I think you'll make it someday soon.
THANKS MATE ..J.C