Off to Dodgers.
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What happened to him being "straight up" traded to the Packers for Favre? 
Say it ain't so !!! But it is ... 
Who did Boston get?
Joe Torre.
Another superstar ran out of Boston.
Red Sox are done now and Yankees will conquer the AL East now that Manny's with Sleepy Joe.
Would've like to see the Yankees get him to fill their LF and big bat need but trading him out of the league to a team who don't appear to be much of a threat to make a world series run is the next best thing.
Red Sox are done now and Yankees will conquer the AL East now that Manny's with Sleepy Joe.
Would've like to see the Yankees get him to fill their LF and big bat need but trading him out of the league to a team who don't appear to be much of a threat to make a world series run is the next best thing.
Jason Bay from the Pirates, for 3 or 4 prospects
one of those three way deals.
dang
one of those three way deals.
dang
From ESPN.com Quote from Manny:
"The Red Sox don't deserve a player like me," Ramirez told ESPNdeportes.com Wednesday. "During my years here, I've seen how they [the Red Sox] have mistreated other great players when they didn't want them to try to turn the fans against them.
"The Red Sox did the same with guys like Nomar Garciaparra and Pedro Martinez, and now they do the same with me. Their goal is to paint me as the bad guy," Ramirez added. "I love Boston fans, but the Red Sox don't deserve me. I'm not talking about money. Mental peace has no price, and I don't have peace here."
"The Red Sox don't deserve a player like me," Ramirez told ESPNdeportes.com Wednesday. "During my years here, I've seen how they [the Red Sox] have mistreated other great players when they didn't want them to try to turn the fans against them.
"The Red Sox did the same with guys like Nomar Garciaparra and Pedro Martinez, and now they do the same with me. Their goal is to paint me as the bad guy," Ramirez added. "I love Boston fans, but the Red Sox don't deserve me. I'm not talking about money. Mental peace has no price, and I don't have peace here."
The trade went via Pittsburgh.
South Florida was excited to possibly get Manny, bunch of very young guys, he would have fit right in.
But I think that Torre will be a good fit for Manny.
As far as Pudge getting traded, I have been upset since he left the Marlins.
South Florida was excited to possibly get Manny, bunch of very young guys, he would have fit right in.
But I think that Torre will be a good fit for Manny.
As far as Pudge getting traded, I have been upset since he left the Marlins.
All across the great state of Arizona, fans are crying (not so) quietly into their beer.
I think the Sox are done for this year. I don't think the trade was bad, but they needed pitching more than they needed to get rid of Manny.
Now to refute the ignorant comments:quote:Originally posted by zombywoof:
Another superstar ran out of Boston.
Red Sox are done now and Yankees will conquer the AL East now that Manny's with Sleepy Joe.
Would've like to see the Yankees get him to fill their LF and big bat need but trading him out of the league to a team who don't appear to be much of a threat to make a world series run is the next best thing.
Superstars have not been run out of Boston.
Before leaving via free agency Clemens was 40-39 over the previous four years with three of his worst ERA's and 26 missed starts due to arm problems. After leaving Boston he seems to have found a magic elixar.
Before leaving via free agency Pedro Martinez proved he couldn't get past the sixth inning. His ERA over 7.00 after the 6th in his last season with the Sox. Ask Grady Little how good Pedro was after six innings.
He wanted a huge contract. Six inning pitchers don't get huge contracts. Martinez has spent more time on the Mets DL than on the Mets roster.Garciaparra has lost range and had been injured when the Sox traded him. The trade helped them win the pennant. Garciaparra hasn't been right since. The Sox traded him as he was losing it.
Manny Ramirez ran himself out of town. He was going to do what it took to agitate the Red Sox into trading him and get the receiving team to void the two options on his contract. Manny didn't care about the team. Manny cared about Manny. The Sox were going to have to bench him if he continued to dog it. Francona and Epstein were willing to blow off Manny's escapades as Manny being Manny. When Manny attack ownership he want after the guy signing the paycheck. Ownership had to do something.
Whether or not the Sox make the playoffs will be about getting healthy and the bullpen finding some consistancy. Bay will be fine for the regular season. Manny could be missed in the playoffs. He's one of the all-time great hitters. But the Sox were going to have a huge hole in the lineup after being forced by Manny's behavior to suspend him.
Manny wouldn't fit with the Yankees unless they throw Giambi under the bus. Please don't tell me Manny could cover left at Yankee Stadium. Giambi can't play first.
Note: The Dodgers got a steal. Manny will be motivated and hit well. When he leaves via free agency they get two supplemental picks.
Manny doesn't realize it yet but he is a lot better off on the West Coast. Teams that don't appreciate talent with a personality don't understand that keeps the team loose. Clowning around is part of baseball, if you don't believe that watch what happens at almost every ball park in between innings with the mascots, the parodies and whinnie races.
It's all about entertaining the fans, that the new paradigm in baseball is "SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT". The old grumps want the fans to sit on their hands and pretend to be soooo polite. That's garbage. Long ago fans use to really get envolved with their teams and voiced their approval and disapproval vociferously.
Now you go to a ball park and you'd think you are at the cemetery its so quiet. Baseball has changed so much since I played as I kid I don't bother going to the games anymore. Rather watch it on TV in my house where I can scream yell and shout appreciative when I see a good play and derogatorily when it is warranted.
The peeps in L.A. will welcome Manny Ramirez with open arms, and the Dodgers now have a chance to win it all. Why, because Manny now has a reason to kick some a*ss just like Jackie Robinson did.
JMO
It's all about entertaining the fans, that the new paradigm in baseball is "SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT". The old grumps want the fans to sit on their hands and pretend to be soooo polite. That's garbage. Long ago fans use to really get envolved with their teams and voiced their approval and disapproval vociferously.
Now you go to a ball park and you'd think you are at the cemetery its so quiet. Baseball has changed so much since I played as I kid I don't bother going to the games anymore. Rather watch it on TV in my house where I can scream yell and shout appreciative when I see a good play and derogatorily when it is warranted.
The peeps in L.A. will welcome Manny Ramirez with open arms, and the Dodgers now have a chance to win it all. Why, because Manny now has a reason to kick some a*ss just like Jackie Robinson did.
JMO
Outhouse to the Penthouse: Jason Bay
Hey Jason, in case you don't have any idea what it looks like, that's a sellout you're playing in front off. Those are accomplished, professional hitters around you in the lineup. Good luck. You won't be pitched around anymore.
Hey Jason, in case you don't have any idea what it looks like, that's a sellout you're playing in front off. Those are accomplished, professional hitters around you in the lineup. Good luck. You won't be pitched around anymore.
Dogging it on the field is not entertaining. Manny started dogging it to force a trade. That's his level of maturity and professionalism.quote:Originally posted by LLorton:
Manny doesn't realize it yet but he is a lot better off on the West Coast. Teams that don't appreciate talent with a personality don't understand that keeps the team loose. Clowning around is part of baseball, if you don't believe that watch what happens at almost every ball park in between innings with the mascots, the parodies and whinnie races.
It's all about entertaining the fans, that the new paradigm in baseball is "SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT". The old grumps want the fans to sit on their hands and pretend to be soooo polite. That's garbage. Long ago fans use to really get envolved with their teams and voiced their approval and disapproval vociferously.
Now you go to a ball park and you'd think you are at the cemetery its so quiet. Baseball has changed so much since I played as I kid I don't bother going to the games anymore. Rather watch it on TV in my house where I can scream yell and shout appreciative when I see a good play and derogatorily when it is warranted.
The peeps in L.A. will welcome Manny Ramirez with open arms, and the Dodgers now have a chance to win it all. Why, because Manny now has a reason to kick some a*ss just like Jackie Robinson did.
JMO
RJM said: Outhouse to the Penthouse: Jason Bay
and then he said: Dogging it on the field is not entertaining. Manny started dogging it to force a trade. That's his level of maturity and professionalism.
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From a ball player with game, to a dirt dog wannabe...what's a dirt dog.
Manny got what he wanted so you tell me who was smarter?
JMO
and then he said: Dogging it on the field is not entertaining. Manny started dogging it to force a trade. That's his level of maturity and professionalism.
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From a ball player with game, to a dirt dog wannabe...what's a dirt dog.
Manny got what he wanted so you tell me who was smarter?
JMO
Bottom line is this:
Who do you want up with the game on the line? A big game for that matter? Manny or Bay?
Who do you want up with the game on the line? A big game for that matter? Manny or Bay?
quote:Manny doesn't realize it yet but he is a lot better off on the West Coast. Teams that don't appreciate talent with a personality don't understand that keeps the team loose. Clowning around is part of baseball, if you don't believe that watch what happens at almost every ball park in between innings with the mascots, the parodies and whinnie races.
It's all about entertaining the fans, that the new paradigm in baseball is "SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT". The old grumps want the fans to sit on their hands and pretend to be soooo polite. That's garbage.
You mean where they show up in the 3rd inning and leave by the 7th inning? Yeah! They appreciate entertainment.
How many penants has that looseness won for West Coast teams in the past decade?
quote:Long ago fans use to really get envolved with their teams and voiced their approval and disapproval vociferously.
Now you go to a ball park and you'd think you are at the cemetery its so quiet.
You've never neen to, or watched, a game at Fenway, Yankee Stadium, or any other big market East Coast team if you're making that statement.
quote:You've never neen to, or watched, a game at Fenway, Yankee Stadium, or any other big market East Coast team if you're making that statement.
That's why I predict Manny won't stay in LA. He'll get bored with that atmosphere by September. He needs to play for for teams line the Red Sox and the Yankees. Yankees have to go after him for next year so this way, he can stick it to Boston and pour gasoline on the fire of the rivalry.
Manny definitely doesn't belong in LA