MLB Post Season Thread

younggun posted:

Yes and honestly all the runs were given up on three pitches. Kershaw missed trying to get inside on Bregman, and Bregman is a great inside fastball hitter. I watched that for 3 years. Keuchel looked to groove a first pitch and it got hammered. The pitch to Turner was a good pitch in a good location I thought. Like TPM said, sometimes the other guy is just better in a given at bat. 

Saw a breakdown where after getting beat up and in during the first two at bats, Turner switched bats. Maybe a 1/2 shorter or lighter but it worked. 

YOUNGGUN is right, a couple of pitches make the difference in the game. If Kershaw would have given up a HR after the error, we all would be talking about how bad Kershaw is in 7th innings right now...

The momentum has swung to the Dodgers, now the Astros have a chance to grab it back. It is going to be hot again today and the ball will carry more at Dodger Stadium, which will make Hill vulnerable if he is not on. If he hangs a couple of breaking balls look out.  

Verlander will be on tonight so the Dodgers will need to grind him out of the game, can they do it, will their bullpen hold up, the Astro's need to get a few on the board and quiet the crowd down,  will Redd ick break out of his slump, so many story lines... The drama continues, love it!

HSHULER,

Really?  You think my suggestion of moving him down in the lineup is an over reaction?  Again, I look at it as an adjustment to a player that has been struggling during the whole post season.   Springer's had some really bad at bats and his team is down 0-1.   I agree it was Kershaw last night and that is a different level.  However, if I'm AJ Hinch I'm really thinking hard about what I can do to get this offense jump started in some way.  Springer isn;t the only one struggling (although he is batting leadoff) and I think they were fortunate to walk away with a game 5 (home filed win) against the Yankees.   Adjustments are needed against the Dodgers.   Whether or not that is Springer moving down in the lineup or not, I'm not sure.  However it is worthy of consideration to get the Astros competive.   JMO.

fenwaysouth posted:

HSHULER,

Really?  You think my suggestion of moving him down in the lineup is an over reaction?  Again, I look at it as an adjustment to a player that has been struggling during the whole post season.   Springer's had some really bad at bats and his team is down 0-1.   I agree it was Kershaw last night and that is a different level.  However, if I'm AJ Hinch I'm really thinking hard about what I can do to get this offense jump started in some way.  Springer isn;t the only one struggling (although he is batting leadoff) and I think they were fortunate to walk away with a game 5 (home filed win) against the Yankees.   Adjustments are needed against the Dodgers.   Whether or not that is Springer moving down in the lineup or not, I'm not sure.  However it is worthy of consideration to get the Astros competive.   JMO.

Fenway - You’re good with me, brother. Remember, you picked the Dodgers.

My post was mostly in reference to media and a coworker (Astros fan) who thinks that the world ended last night.

If it means anything, I thought that he should have gone Bregman, Altuve or vice versa in the one-two holes in game seven.

Lots of media pundits think that tonight is a must-win for the Astros but I don’t think so. Obviously, I could be wrong but this postseason has been about the unexpected. 

This is all for entertainment purposes only...at least for me it is. 

My official pick is Astros in six. :-)

My only preference for the Astros is so they won’t be hungry next year. But I believe the Dodgers will win. First the Sox took their coach. Next is take their pennant.

I felt like the Astros had a tremendous amount of bad AB just based on Kershaw pitch selection. I haven't looked at the stats but it felt watching the game, especially early they were behind constantly taking pitches...I know everyone wants a fastball but Kershaw was 0-1, 0-2, 1-2 all night it seemed.

Interesting tidbit that I saw on twitter.

29 of 50 active WS players played college baseball.

39 members of the Astros and Dodgers 40 man rosters were once NCAA student athletes.

11 SEC, 5 ACC, 5 PAC 12, 3 Big West, 3 D2, 4 OTHER NCAA D1, 2 American Athletic Conference, 2 other BIG, 2 C-USA , 2 D3

fenwaysouth posted:

HSHULER,

Really?  You think my suggestion of moving him down in the lineup is an over reaction?  Again, I look at it as an adjustment to a player that has been struggling during the whole post season.   Springer's had some really bad at bats and his team is down 0-1.   I agree it was Kershaw last night and that is a different level.  However, if I'm AJ Hinch I'm really thinking hard about what I can do to get this offense jump started in some way.  Springer isn;t the only one struggling (although he is batting leadoff) and I think they were fortunate to walk away with a game 5 (home filed win) against the Yankees.   Adjustments are needed against the Dodgers.   Whether or not that is Springer moving down in the lineup or not, I'm not sure.  However it is worthy of consideration to get the Astros competive.   JMO.

Springer is not moving down.  No matter what.  He has been terrible this postseason, but he is not moving out of lead-off.

Looks like if a pitcher throws up and in, he could get hit in his right ear.

We’ve got free baseball... I’m loving it!

Jose “freakin” Altuve!!!!!!!!

Go Stros!

Stros in 6 baby!!!!!!!!

I promise y’all that’s not me in the Stros bullpen.... 

Again, go Stros!

brball posted:

I promise y’all that’s not me in the Stros bullpen.... 

Again, go Stros!

Had to be a Yankee fan?

Oh well

Be honest. How many folks were screaming for Hinch to bunt Springer? LoL 

Oh hell yea! 

First world series win in Astros history. 

Who was suggesting bench Springer and Gonzalez?

What an incredible game.  Wow!

That was fun!

Just heard that there had only been 17 extra inning HR’s in the 108 previous WS. Five extra inning dingers tonight. #INCREDIBLE

Man what a game. Felt like I was watching one of the Rocky movies..Both teams throwing 1 hay maker after another. 1st ever Astros WS Win..Yeah Baby! 

Wow..I tuned off after score was 3-1 late. Must be the "Verlander effect".

I turned it off at 3-3 at the end of 9.  From now on, I'm just going to watch from the 5th inning on.

Glad to see Springer get on base and get a couple hits to make the game interesting.  I still can't believe Verlander gave up a 2-run homer with 2 outs and a 0-2 count.   You could tell he was kicking himself there.

Fenway nodded off.  And then this happened...

Roberts was left with the choice of McCarthy (who hasn't pitched since Oct 1) or Honeycutt (who is 67 and the pitching coach).  Ouch.  Wonder what's it like out their in LA today on the talk shows...

I believe that I heard the Dodgers were 98-0 this year when leading after the 8th inning and had won 118 straight dating back to last year. #Crazy

44,

You are too funny!!!!!

fenwaysouth posted:

I turned it off at 3-3 at the end of 9.  From now on, I'm just going to watch from the 5th inning on.

Glad to see Springer get on base and get a couple hits to make the game interesting.  I still can't believe Verlander gave up a 2-run homer with 2 outs and a 0-2 count.   You could tell he was kicking himself there.

 

I was surprised that the he gave up a tater in that situation but wasn’t surprised that he gave up another after Joc’s. The Dodgers had some really healthy hacks off of his fastball - fouling several straight back over the course of the game. 

The Dodgers weren’t fooled a ton at the plate last night but the Astros had the ball bounce their way more. 

TPM posted:

44,

You are too funny!!!!!

Something is seriously wrong with that man. LoL

Best I saw on twitter on the game was from Bill James (no less)

Marwin Gonzalez is the first person to hit a homerun in the World Series names Marwin.

If the Astros win in seven it’s going to be a long “what if” off season for the Dodgers. But the whiny letters to the sports editor will be great entertainment.

Fenway, you have been a Dodger fan for a week and you are already acting like a long time season ticket holder      -  8th inning -  start to head for the parking lot...

Was a must win for the Astro's to make it a series and they did what they needed to.

This one is going 7. 

Texas 2 Sons posted:

RJM posted:

Texas 2 Sons posted:

Astros all the way!!!  It would be nice to see Hinch not panic so much and make knee jerk reactions like he's done the 1st 2 series. We should be able to at least split in LA and then finish at home. Once you get past Kershaw, I'm not too impressed with the rest of their starters.

I'm not seeing where the dodgers supposedly have a defense advantage. 3rd-Bregman over Turner, SS-Correa over Seager, 2nd-Altuve over either, 1st toss up between Gurriel and Bellinger, C-slight edge to Grandal, CF/RF both teams are very good, LF advantage Dodgers.  I would say slight edge to Astros overall.

Maybe you’re not seeing through your bias. Fangraphs has the Dodgers rating 5th in fielding. The Astros are rated 29th. In just straight up fielding percentages the Dodgers are 12th. The Astros are 20th. Fangraphs has Gurriel, Springer, Gonzalez and Redddick in the top fifty of worst defensive players in baseball in 2017. The Dodgers have three in the top fifty of best defensive players. The Astros have none. 

So Springer makes 1 error all year and he's top 50 worst defensive players in baseball???

Astros- C-.995, 1st-.992, 2nd-.982, SS-.978, 3rd-.968, OF-.996, .982, .976

Dodge- C-.995, 1st-.993, 2nd-.982, SS-.979, 3rd-.969, OF-.996, .972, .967

Fielding % for both teams..explain the Dodgers-12th and Astros-20th again. Fielding% pulled from CBS for starters that are playing in WS.

 

well there is more to fielding than just fielding percentage. it is important to make the plays but at the mlb level about 70% of defense is range (because most can field a ball and make a throw there).

even in fielding percentage the dodgers are better but their real edge is in the range and also catching. almost all of the astros players have below average range in the field. there is no doubt the dodgers are the better defensive team.

there isn't really a position where the astros have the edge and some have a big dodgers edge (catching, 1B for example)

Dominik85 posted:

Texas 2 Sons posted:

RJM posted:

Texas 2 Sons posted:

Astros all the way!!!  It would be nice to see Hinch not panic so much and make knee jerk reactions like he's done the 1st 2 series. We should be able to at least split in LA and then finish at home. Once you get past Kershaw, I'm not too impressed with the rest of their starters.

I'm not seeing where the dodgers supposedly have a defense advantage. 3rd-Bregman over Turner, SS-Correa over Seager, 2nd-Altuve over either, 1st toss up between Gurriel and Bellinger, C-slight edge to Grandal, CF/RF both teams are very good, LF advantage Dodgers.  I would say slight edge to Astros overall.

Maybe you’re not seeing through your bias. Fangraphs has the Dodgers rating 5th in fielding. The Astros are rated 29th. In just straight up fielding percentages the Dodgers are 12th. The Astros are 20th. Fangraphs has Gurriel, Springer, Gonzalez and Redddick in the top fifty of worst defensive players in baseball in 2017. The Dodgers have three in the top fifty of best defensive players. The Astros have none. 

So Springer makes 1 error all year and he's top 50 worst defensive players in baseball???

Astros- C-.995, 1st-.992, 2nd-.982, SS-.978, 3rd-.968, OF-.996, .982, .976

Dodge- C-.995, 1st-.993, 2nd-.982, SS-.979, 3rd-.969, OF-.996, .972, .967

Fielding % for both teams..explain the Dodgers-12th and Astros-20th again. Fielding% pulled from CBS for starters that are playing in WS.

 

well there is more to fielding than just fielding percentage. it is important to make the plays but at the mlb level about 70% of defense is range (because most can field a ball and make a throw there).

even in fielding percentage the dodgers are better but their real edge is in the range and also catching. almost all of the astros players have below average range in the field. there is no doubt the dodgers are the better defensive team.

there isn't really a position where the astros have the edge and some have a big dodgers edge (catching, 1B for example)

 

Other than 2b, SS, 3b and CF, I agree with that.

Well written Mr. Passan.  Now can you unblock me?

Dominik85 posted:

Texas 2 Sons posted:

RJM posted:

Texas 2 Sons posted:

Astros all the way!!!  It would be nice to see Hinch not panic so much and make knee jerk reactions like he's done the 1st 2 series. We should be able to at least split in LA and then finish at home. Once you get past Kershaw, I'm not too impressed with the rest of their starters.

I'm not seeing where the dodgers supposedly have a defense advantage. 3rd-Bregman over Turner, SS-Correa over Seager, 2nd-Altuve over either, 1st toss up between Gurriel and Bellinger, C-slight edge to Grandal, CF/RF both teams are very good, LF advantage Dodgers.  I would say slight edge to Astros overall.

Maybe you’re not seeing through your bias. Fangraphs has the Dodgers rating 5th in fielding. The Astros are rated 29th. In just straight up fielding percentages the Dodgers are 12th. The Astros are 20th. Fangraphs has Gurriel, Springer, Gonzalez and Redddick in the top fifty of worst defensive players in baseball in 2017. The Dodgers have three in the top fifty of best defensive players. The Astros have none. 

So Springer makes 1 error all year and he's top 50 worst defensive players in baseball???

Astros- C-.995, 1st-.992, 2nd-.982, SS-.978, 3rd-.968, OF-.996, .982, .976

Dodge- C-.995, 1st-.993, 2nd-.982, SS-.979, 3rd-.969, OF-.996, .972, .967

Fielding % for both teams..explain the Dodgers-12th and Astros-20th again. Fielding% pulled from CBS for starters that are playing in WS.

 

well there is more to fielding than just fielding percentage. it is important to make the plays but at the mlb level about 70% of defense is range (because most can field a ball and make a throw there).

even in fielding percentage the dodgers are better but their real edge is in the range and also catching. almost all of the astros players have below average range in the field. there is no doubt the dodgers are the better defensive team.

there isn't really a position where the astros have the edge and some have a big dodgers edge (catching, 1B for example)

 

I think you're looking through Dodger colored glasses or you live in Colorado and enjoy smoking a doobie doobie a little too often 

This is the best article I have read about the game. Really good!

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/...odgers-astros-game-2

LOS ANGELES — At some point after the hills around Dodger Stadium caught on fire and a drunken fan jumped into the Astros’ bullpen, there was a home run, a longer home run, an even longer home run, and a home run after the home run after that. There was an umpire moonlighting as a hockey goalie to prevent the winning run from scoring, and there was an immaculate bullpen that couldn’t stop allowing runs. The Astros were dead before they were alive before they were dead before they were alive before they were dead before they were victorious, and as the smoke poured into the ballpark, it was impossible to know if the whump-whump-whump of the helicopters around the ballpark were for the fire or the World Series, and it’s not like anyone could tell the difference.

Deep breath.

Hands up if you remembered that Rich Hill and Justin Verlander started this game.

BOF posted:

Fenway, you have been a Dodger fan for a week and you are already acting like a long time season ticket holder      -  8th inning -  start to head for the parking lot...

Was a must win for the Astro's to make it a series and they did what they needed to.

This one is going 7. 

Sorry, I had to go to sleep at 11:45pm.  The mind wanted to watch the game but the eye lids (and my wife) had other ideas.  It is a conspiracy against my temporary Dodger fandom.  Remember some of us are on the East coast and we have to go to work early for the man.

I agree it was a must win for the Astros, and I've already said as much.  

Remember, I had the Dodgers in 5 and I still feel confident in that selection.  They are the better team.  When Verlander is pitching, Houston has a chance, as they proved last night.  The Dodgers are going to be all over the Astros starting rotation like Trump on a twitter rant.

BOF posted:

This is the best article I have read about the game. Really good!

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/...odgers-astros-game-2

LOS ANGELES — At some point after the hills around Dodger Stadium caught on fire and a drunken fan jumped into the Astros’ bullpen, there was a home run, a longer home run, an even longer home run, and a home run after the home run after that. There was an umpire moonlighting as a hockey goalie to prevent the winning run from scoring, and there was an immaculate bullpen that couldn’t stop allowing runs. The Astros were dead before they were alive before they were dead before they were alive before they were dead before they were victorious, and as the smoke poured into the ballpark, it was impossible to know if the whump-whump-whump of the helicopters around the ballpark were for the fire or the World Series, and it’s not like anyone could tell the difference.

Deep breath.

Hands up if you remembered that Rich Hill and Justin Verlander started this game.

 

Great summary.  My wife and I were watching the game at home and happened to be catching up with one long-distance son on the phone...  he made some comment about comparing Dodger fans to Raider fans.  I said no way, not even close.  Three seconds later, that Dodger fan jumped into the Astros bullpen and had to be escorted by a large contingency of security and police.  Did not help my argument      I had a great come-back but I would probably rather keep friends here.

BUT WHAT A GAME !!!!!

Fenway, very funny stuff, but treading on some very dangerous ground 

All in good fun, folks.  Can we get five more games like that one, please? 

fenwaysouth posted:

BOF posted:

Fenway, you have been a Dodger fan for a week and you are already acting like a long time season ticket holder      -  8th inning -  start to head for the parking lot...

Was a must win for the Astro's to make it a series and they did what they needed to.

This one is going 7. 

Sorry, I had to go to sleep at 11:45pm.  The mind wanted to watch the game but the eye lids (and my wife) had other ideas.  It is a conspiracy against my temporary Dodger fandom.  Remember some of us are on the East coast and we have to go to work early for the man.

I agree it was a must win for the Astros, and I've already said as much.  

Remember, I had the Dodgers in 5 and I still feel confident in that selection.  They are the better team.  When Verlander is pitching, Houston has a chance, as they proved last night.  The Dodgers are going to be all over the Astros starting rotation like Trump on a twitter rant.

Don't feel bad Fenway.   My eyelids got heavy around the 10th inning.

FoxDad,

I'm ready for tonight!   Go Dodgers!   You can buy the same eyekit at your local Target or WalMart  in the Health and Beauty Aids section.  

Don't try toothpicks or match sticks as it will obstruct your view....kind of like the steel beams at Fenway Park.  

I decided to make an adult decision and fight through it with the exception of small naps during commercials. The problem is the last few innings were so exciting that I couldn’t wind down afterwards. For that, I paid dearly yesterday at work so last night I was asleep by 9.

fenwaysouth posted:

FoxDad,

I'm ready for tonight!   Go Dodgers!   You can buy the same eyekit at your local Target or WalMart  in the Health and Beauty Aids section.  

Don't try toothpicks or match sticks as it will obstruct your view....kind of like the steel beams at Fenway Park.  

LOL!  I don't think I'll go that far.

Probably going out tonight since it is my birthday.   Maybe find a sports bar or a restaurant with a TV or two. 

FoxDad posted:

fenwaysouth posted:

FoxDad,

I'm ready for tonight!   Go Dodgers!   You can buy the same eyekit at your local Target or WalMart  in the Health and Beauty Aids section.  

Don't try toothpicks or match sticks as it will obstruct your view....kind of like the steel beams at Fenway Park.  

LOL!  I don't think I'll go that far.

Probably going out tonight since it is my birthday.   Maybe find a sports bar or a restaurant with a TV or two. 

Happy b-day, Fox!

Mine is tomorrow.....but I’ll barely get acknowledged (which I honestly don’t mind) because my daughter will be five and will dominate the day. 

Happy Birthday Shu and Fenway!

TPM posted:

Happy Birthday Shu and Fenway!

Thanks!

Happy 29th birthday (again) FoxDad and HShuler!

hshuler posted:

FoxDad posted:

fenwaysouth posted:

FoxDad,

I'm ready for tonight!   Go Dodgers!   You can buy the same eyekit at your local Target or WalMart  in the Health and Beauty Aids section.  

Don't try toothpicks or match sticks as it will obstruct your view....kind of like the steel beams at Fenway Park.  

LOL!  I don't think I'll go that far.

Probably going out tonight since it is my birthday.   Maybe find a sports bar or a restaurant with a TV or two. 

Happy b-day, Fox!

Mine is tomorrow.....but I’ll barely get acknowledged (which I honestly don’t mind) because my daughter will be five and will dominate the day. 

Thanks!

I know the feeling.   My oldest granddaughter's birthday is 3 days before mine and she usually gets all the attention.  She just turned 9.

FoxDad posted:

hshuler posted:

FoxDad posted:

fenwaysouth posted:

FoxDad,

I'm ready for tonight!   Go Dodgers!   You can buy the same eyekit at your local Target or WalMart  in the Health and Beauty Aids section.  

Don't try toothpicks or match sticks as it will obstruct your view....kind of like the steel beams at Fenway Park.  

LOL!  I don't think I'll go that far.

Probably going out tonight since it is my birthday.   Maybe find a sports bar or a restaurant with a TV or two. 

Happy b-day, Fox!

Mine is tomorrow.....but I’ll barely get acknowledged (which I honestly don’t mind) because my daughter will be five and will dominate the day. 

Thanks!

I know the feeling.   My oldest granddaughter's birthday is 3 days before mine and she usually gets all the attention.  She just turned 9.

YW but I’ll one up you here. 

The 1st, 8th, 19th, 24th, 27th, 28th and 11/4 all require me spending money. #DepressedInOctober

fenwaysouth posted:

Happy 29th birthday (again) FoxDad and HShuler!

Thanks, Fenway!

Mar.WIN!

Stros looking good, but it’s way too early... lol!

Shu- did you use that dumb luck again and predict the Stros to run Darvish out early? If so, go buy yourself a freakin lottery ticket my man!

Darvishs' batting practice session closed! 

Go 'Stros!!

Mr. Fenway, 

We firmly believe in a persons right to change their mind. We believe it is a basic right of every man and women. Given your propensity to shift allegiances, we are reaching out to you.  We have reserved a first class seat for you on our bandwagon.  We will even include a Nolan Ryan Rainbow Jersey in our offer.

In support of your right and our offer, we will be tooting the horn on our train often this evening. 

Sincerely,

The Houston Astros

Wow! Reddi*k = Hustle!  (filters won't let me spell his name out)

Dodgers= bumbling 

Time to board the Gurriel train, lesss gooo Stros!

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ast...190534311936/photo/1

baseballmom posted:

Wow! Reddi*k = Hustle!  (filters won't let me spell his name out)

Dodgers= bumbling 

Auto correct is assuming you’re missing a space. I went with three d’s.

Bullpen what?

Happy for Peacock. ..He was 12-1 on the season!  2 down 2 to go..Let's Go Astros!!!

Peacock was a little surprised at his S! GOOD job! So well composed, unflappable.

Holy Astros, Batman!!!!

Go44dad posted:

Mr. Fenway, 

We firmly believe in a persons right to change their mind. We believe it is a basic right of every man and women. Given your propensity to shift allegiances, we are reaching out to you.  We have reserved a first class seat for you on our bandwagon.  We will even include a Nolan Ryan Rainbow Jersey in our offer.

In support of your right and our offer, we will be tooting the horn on our train often this evening. 

Sincerely,

The Houston Astros

Go44Dad,

Thanks for the thought and reaching out.  The thought of a Ryan rainbow  jersey is overwhelming.  He is my idol and I did meet him in 2002 in Round Rock, TX at a restaurant through a work associate.   He's a big dude.   In my mind, Nolan Ryan is to pitching what Babe Ruth is to hitting.   

My life long allegiances have never changed.  I'll explain and come clean.  I got behind the Dodgers because I thought the Yankees were going to beat the Astros in the ALCS.  The thought of a Yankees/Dodgers World Series led me to become an October Dodger fan.  There I said it and I've come clean!   My dislike for the Yankees sometimes clouds my judgement.  Logically it looks like this.....the enemy of my enemy is my friend.....enter the Dodgers.  Dave Roberts is also one of my favorite Red Sox bit players of all time.

Truthfully I'm enjoying the games like everybody else, and I thought the Dodgers would out-talent the Astros quickly.   They haven't.   My wife is really pulling for the Astros and their community.  She clearly has a big heart and doesn't carry the Red Sox/Yankees baggage that I carry around. 

I'm a life long Red Sox fan despite some of the stupid things they've done in recent history (Ie...fire Francona, hire Bobby Valentine) and I follow the Nationals because they are local to me.  Since neither team couldn't get past the first round I find myself just wanting to see competitive World Series games.  So, far we've got that.

BTW...We got your bench coach as our newest Manager.  It is one of the better moves our front office has made in years.   It is a great time for him to take the job.   Good luck the rest of the way!

I struggle with the idea the dodgers out talent the astros.  Closer is the only spot that there is no argument. 

Got to cut it short. I’m in a dear blind. There is more movement this morning than Peacock’s four seamer. 

After several close games, I think the next game will be a blowout. 

Go44dad posted:

I struggle with the idea the dodgers out talent the astros.  Closer is the only spot that there is no argument. 

Got to cut it short. I’m in a dear blind. There is more movement this morning than Peacock’s four seamer. 

So, you watched the game until a little after midnight.   Presumably got up around 4am to 5am to climb into a deer blind thereby depriving yourself of normal sleep.  Do you expect to watch the game tonight until midnight?  What about extra innings?  If so, that would be impressive.  I'd be on the couch snoring by 9pm dreaming of Red Sox Spring Training.

How can the Red Sox hire the bench coach while they are still playing? 

Is this normal. 

TPM posted:

How can the Red Sox hire the bench coach while they are still playing? 

Is this normal. 

I think that he was granted permission by Astros to interview during an off day and they have agreed in principle on a deal. I don’t think the official contract signing and press conference can happen until after the WS.

At least that’s the way it happens in the NFL. 

Gurriel banned for 5 games next season.  Not sure how I feel about that. It seems about right but if I was an LAD fan I know I'd think the suspension should begin today.  Though I don't know if that would be possible given the player's right to appeal. Anyway, this unfortunate BS has taken some of the fun out of the WS for sure. 

Interesting take here:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/...-20171027-story.html

fenwaysouth posted:

Go44dad posted:

I struggle with the idea the dodgers out talent the astros.  Closer is the only spot that there is no argument. 

Got to cut it short. I’m in a dear blind. There is more movement this morning than Peacock’s four seamer. 

So, you watched the game until a little after midnight.   Presumably got up around 4am to 5am to climb into a deer blind thereby depriving yourself of normal sleep.  Do you expect to watch the game tonight until midnight?  What about extra innings?  If so, that would be impressive.  I'd be on the couch snoring by 9pm dreaming of Red Sox Spring Training.

Fenway, you are right on the timeline. add in showed a client three homes. Got home about 20 minutes ago. Was starting to feel it, eyelids were getting heavy and I felt my will slipping.

THEN I HEARD THAT TRAIN CALLING ME!  IT’S NOT TOO LATE!  ALL ABOARD!

Go44dad posted:

fenwaysouth posted:

Go44dad posted:

I struggle with the idea the dodgers out talent the astros.  Closer is the only spot that there is no argument. 

Got to cut it short. I’m in a dear blind. There is more movement this morning than Peacock’s four seamer. 

So, you watched the game until a little after midnight.   Presumably got up around 4am to 5am to climb into a deer blind thereby depriving yourself of normal sleep.  Do you expect to watch the game tonight until midnight?  What about extra innings?  If so, that would be impressive.  I'd be on the couch snoring by 9pm dreaming of Red Sox Spring Training.

Fenway, you are right on the timeline. add in showed a client three homes. Got home about 20 minutes ago. Was starting to feel it, eyelids were getting heavy and I felt my will slipping.

THEN I HEARD THAT TRAIN CALLING ME!  IT’S NOT TOO LATE!  ALL ABOARD!

You’re a man on a mission!

Go44dad posted:

fenwaysouth posted:

Go44dad posted:

I struggle with the idea the dodgers out talent the astros.  Closer is the only spot that there is no argument. 

Got to cut it short. I’m in a dear blind. There is more movement this morning than Peacock’s four seamer. 

So, you watched the game until a little after midnight.   Presumably got up around 4am to 5am to climb into a deer blind thereby depriving yourself of normal sleep.  Do you expect to watch the game tonight until midnight?  What about extra innings?  If so, that would be impressive.  I'd be on the couch snoring by 9pm dreaming of Red Sox Spring Training.

Fenway, you are right on the timeline. add in showed a client three homes. Got home about 20 minutes ago. Was starting to feel it, eyelids were getting heavy and I felt my will slipping.

THEN I HEARD THAT TRAIN CALLING ME!  IT’S NOT TOO LATE!  ALL ABOARD!

Train needs to leave the station already! Real question is, did you get a deer?

brball posted:

Go44dad posted:

fenwaysouth posted:

Go44dad posted:

I struggle with the idea the dodgers out talent the astros.  Closer is the only spot that there is no argument. 

Got to cut it short. I’m in a dear blind. There is more movement this morning than Peacock’s four seamer. 

So, you watched the game until a little after midnight.   Presumably got up around 4am to 5am to climb into a deer blind thereby depriving yourself of normal sleep.  Do you expect to watch the game tonight until midnight?  What about extra innings?  If so, that would be impressive.  I'd be on the couch snoring by 9pm dreaming of Red Sox Spring Training.

Fenway, you are right on the timeline. add in showed a client three homes. Got home about 20 minutes ago. Was starting to feel it, eyelids were getting heavy and I felt my will slipping.

THEN I HEARD THAT TRAIN CALLING ME!  IT’S NOT TOO LATE!  ALL ABOARD!

Train needs to leave the station already! Real question is, did you get a deer?

It’s not rifle season yet, just glassing them. Saw quite a few bucks. Not a trophy hunter. I’m fine with a couple doe. Son and I eat them over a year. Son was bow hunting. A nice one got about 20 yds away from him. It was behind a couple trees. He drew thinking it would clear the trees. It stayed. He lasted about three minutes. Buck never cleared. He let off. Buck sensed him and pranced off. Older bow of mine, doesn’t have the let off of the newer bows. 

I just noticed something absolutely lame about the Astros. Cheerleaders dancing on the dugouts? LAME!

Marlins have them..called the mermaids.

Go44dad posted:

brball posted:

Go44dad posted:

fenwaysouth posted:

Go44dad posted:

I struggle with the idea the dodgers out talent the astros.  Closer is the only spot that there is no argument. 

Got to cut it short. I’m in a dear blind. There is more movement this morning than Peacock’s four seamer. 

So, you watched the game until a little after midnight.   Presumably got up around 4am to 5am to climb into a deer blind thereby depriving yourself of normal sleep.  Do you expect to watch the game tonight until midnight?  What about extra innings?  If so, that would be impressive.  I'd be on the couch snoring by 9pm dreaming of Red Sox Spring Training.

Fenway, you are right on the timeline. add in showed a client three homes. Got home about 20 minutes ago. Was starting to feel it, eyelids were getting heavy and I felt my will slipping.

THEN I HEARD THAT TRAIN CALLING ME!  IT’S NOT TOO LATE!  ALL ABOARD!

Train needs to leave the station already! Real question is, did you get a deer?

It’s not rifle season yet, just glassing them. Saw quite a few bucks. Not a trophy hunter. I’m fine with a couple doe. Son and I eat them over a year. Son was bow hunting. A nice one got about 20 yds away from him. It was behind a couple trees. He drew thinking it would clear the trees. It stayed. He lasted about three minutes. Buck never cleared. He let off. Buck sensed him and pranced off. Older bow of mine, doesn’t have the let off of the newer bows. 

 

Gotcha. Son and I live in GA, but hunt on my dads land in MS. We just prefer doe as well for eating until that trophy comes around. We’ve been scouting one since last year and got this on our trail cam last weekend, see photos...(ignore the dates as I haven’t set them) Can’t wait to go home in a few weeks! Gonna put my son on the stand of the trail cam and I’m gonna be on next stand over... we’ll see what happens!

RJM posted:

I just noticed something absolutely lame about the Astros. Cheerleaders dancing on the dugouts? LAME!

It is relative.  The racism of many Red Sox fans at Fenway is All-Time Hall of Fame level lame....  Penn State still having a football program after Joe Pa & others looked the other way on child rape is lame on an inter-galactic level.

Cheerleaders on dugouts?  Yeah, I guess...

Go44dad posted:

I struggle with the idea the dodgers out talent the astros.  Closer is the only spot that there is no argument. 

 

Closer is the only spot. Really??........Clayton Kershaw is the Best in the game ( There are no comparables )

And Dodger Bullpen : Brandon Morrow ( Set up) , Kenta Meada (Middle Relief ) LIGHTS OUT.

".......Houston We Have A Problem"

3and2 how many times have you been to Fenway?

JCG posted:

Gurriel banned for 5 games next season.  Not sure how I feel about that. It seems about right but if I was an LAD fan I know I'd think the suspension should begin today.  Though I don't know if that would be possible given the player's right to appeal. Anyway, this unfortunate BS has taken some of the fun out of the WS for sure. 

Interesting take here:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/...-20171027-story.html

I'm fairly certain how I feel about it and Gurriel should have been suspended NOW....no questions asked   Why is this even a question.

Manfred & MLB should have stepped in, suspended him, and said a few choice words like "grow-up and act like a professional".   Gurriel would have appealed (per collective bargaining agreement) and MLB would be off the hook.  In this manner, the player would be held 100% responsible for his childish actions to his teammates, fans and everybody else.   Ridiculous action by the player and a poorly handled judgement by the MLB Commish.  

As always, JMO.

Go44dad posted:

fenwaysouth posted:

Go44dad posted:

I struggle with the idea the dodgers out talent the astros.  Closer is the only spot that there is no argument. 

Got to cut it short. I’m in a dear blind. There is more movement this morning than Peacock’s four seamer. 

So, you watched the game until a little after midnight.   Presumably got up around 4am to 5am to climb into a deer blind thereby depriving yourself of normal sleep.  Do you expect to watch the game tonight until midnight?  What about extra innings?  If so, that would be impressive.  I'd be on the couch snoring by 9pm dreaming of Red Sox Spring Training.

Fenway, you are right on the timeline. add in showed a client three homes. Got home about 20 minutes ago. Was starting to feel it, eyelids were getting heavy and I felt my will slipping.

THEN I HEARD THAT TRAIN CALLING ME!  IT’S NOT TOO LATE!  ALL ABOARD!

I hate that stupid train!

Seriously, that was a big pivot game.  Odds swung big back to the Dodgers. Momentum is only as good as your next starting pitcher, and for the Dodgers I hear Vin Scully "and on the mound is Clayton Kershaw, the best there is...".

What happened to the bullpen?? 

Morton deserves HIGH PRAISE! He was just so ON! 

Go44dad posted:

Go44dad posted:

fenwaysouth posted:

Go44dad posted:

I struggle with the idea the dodgers out talent the astros.  Closer is the only spot that there is no argument. 

Got to cut it short. I’m in a dear blind. There is more movement this morning than Peacock’s four seamer. 

So, you watched the game until a little after midnight.   Presumably got up around 4am to 5am to climb into a deer blind thereby depriving yourself of normal sleep.  Do you expect to watch the game tonight until midnight?  What about extra innings?  If so, that would be impressive.  I'd be on the couch snoring by 9pm dreaming of Red Sox Spring Training.

Fenway, you are right on the timeline. add in showed a client three homes. Got home about 20 minutes ago. Was starting to feel it, eyelids were getting heavy and I felt my will slipping.

THEN I HEARD THAT TRAIN CALLING ME!  IT’S NOT TOO LATE!  ALL ABOARD!

I hate that stupid train!

Seriously, that was a big pivot game.  Odds swung big back to the Dodgers. Momentum is only as good as your next starting pitcher, and for the Dodgers I hear Vin Scully "and on the mound is Clayton Kershaw, the best there is...".

Keuchel outduels Kershaw tonight and Verlander closed it out on Tuesday.  Astros in six! 

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. LoL 

So it's dead even - a best of three series.  But the Dodgers got the home field back, and their biggest perceived advantage - closer - looks even bigger now.  Jansen is looking human, while Giles looks so clueless he could close for the Giants.

baseballmom posted:

What happened to the bullpen?? 

Morton deserves HIGH PRAISE! He was just so ON! 

Morton has been impressive the whole post season regardless of the World Series outcome.  I'd not seen him pitch this year until the playoffs.   So, he is the best pitcher I've not seen pitch.   I'm sure some of the Houston faithful have seen him and are equally impressed.  He's got great stuff and he controls it well.  Darvish could learn something from Morton.   

Since the starters have been so dominant, I think the bullpen is a bit rusty.

Fangraph's has it 54% to 46% (Dodgers) tonight, with home field negating some of Kershaw's influence. 

My data analytics son keeps telling me that statically baseball is the most unpredictable of all of the sports so you never know what will happen. Houston had to win game 2 and did and the Dodgers had to win game 4 and did. 

My good friend from Houston told me that before the playoff's started he felt that Houston's bullpen was their one weakness. 

Regardless I still have Dodgers in 7.  

StrainedOblique posted:

Go44dad posted:

I struggle with the idea the dodgers out talent the astros.  Closer is the only spot that there is no argument. 

 

Closer is the only spot. Really??........Clayton Kershaw is the Best in the game ( There are no comparables )

And Dodger Bullpen : Brandon Morrow ( Set up) , Kenta Meada (Middle Relief ) LIGHTS OUT.

 

Kershaw is great no doubt. But I really think you are overlooking the confidence of Verlander. 

3and2Fastball posted:

RJM posted:

I just noticed something absolutely lame about the Astros. Cheerleaders dancing on the dugouts? LAME!

It is relative.  The racism of many Red Sox fans at Fenway is All-Time Hall of Fame level lame....  Penn State still having a football program after Joe Pa & others looked the other way on child rape is lame on an inter-galactic level.

Cheerleaders on dugouts?  Yeah, I guess...

Racism of Red Sox fans? Do you mean the ONE of 35,000 that yelled something?

Go44dad posted:

StrainedOblique posted:

Go44dad posted:

I struggle with the idea the dodgers out talent the astros.  Closer is the only spot that there is no argument. 

 

Closer is the only spot. Really??........Clayton Kershaw is the Best in the game ( There are no comparables )

And Dodger Bullpen : Brandon Morrow ( Set up) , Kenta Meada (Middle Relief ) LIGHTS OUT.

 

Kershaw is great no doubt. But I really think you are overlooking the confidence of Verlander. 

#thisseries... I’m lost for words, go someone. Just enjoying it!!!

Holy Crap...  Altuve !!!   This is fun !!!

Yesterday's game that shoulda had a bunch of runs didn't.  Today's pitching duel isn't.

I am disappointed at one thing though...  ugliest series patches ever 

One word for this series  = WOW!

Now the train needs to hit high steam!

When I tuned in the Astros were down 4-0 to Keyshaw. I figured they were dead. No way they go to LA and win two. Kershaw gave up the lead.  At 7-4 I declared the Astros dead again. Never give a stud like Kershaw a second chance. Turns out it was Kershaw who was dead.

Bye bye bullpen... Lesss gooo Stros!!!

Irony from last night’s game ... YouTube TV is the major sponsor. Their broadcast crashed. 

Springertime!

Go44dad posted:

Springertime!

Another 100 ft to the right and another 80 ft up and that would have been Pujols blast in NLCS game five off of Lidge in 2005.

Morrow is a disaster.  This "manage by spreadsheet" stuff Roberts is doing is killing me.

Smitty28 posted:

Morrow is a disaster.  This "manage by spreadsheet" stuff Roberts is doing is killing me.

Spreadsheet or not, can’t throw a fastball down the middle. There have been a lot of those tonight.