Anyone know anything about this new league starting up next summer?
http://mbcsbl.org/Home.html
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Just heard about it last week.
By my count, at least 10 teams have been added to collegiate summer leagues this year. Serious dilution and, when combined with the impact of the early draft signing date, should make for some interesting situations especially after mid July.
By my count, at least 10 teams have been added to collegiate summer leagues this year. Serious dilution and, when combined with the impact of the early draft signing date, should make for some interesting situations especially after mid July.
Don't know anything about it, but the background of "Our Team" is a little suspect IMO
I thought it might be a school project, definitely seems a little sketchy. But 316Sports has posted information on his blog at:
College Summer Baseball Blog
I'd PM him and ask.
Curious. GED10DaD
College Summer Baseball Blog
I'd PM him and ask.
Curious. GED10DaD
From everything I've heard, the league is legit. I've received several emails from people involved in the league and I assume they are for real. I guess only time will tell.
quote:Originally posted by Goosegg:
Just heard about it last week.
By my count, at least 10 teams have been added to collegiate summer leagues this year. Serious dilution and, when combined with the impact of the early draft signing date, should make for some interesting situations especially after mid July.
You bring up great points. I do believe that summer league baseball is more popular than ever. More and more emphasis is being placed on having D2, D3, NAIA and JUCO players on rosters. I also believe that the next big "thing" to hit summer league baseball will be having graduated H.S player and maybe even H.S. seniors on teams.
316 your site is awesome, great resource.
JH, they seem like a work in progress their “out team” section has expanded since last look. My son’s program is looking to put a few kids there, and one of the coaches mentioned it to me. My son will be out West, but for a West Coast kid it looks like it would be a fun place to spend the summer. I wondered about this however:
"Players will be housed in beach front condominiums or golf resort condominiums that are fully furnished with modern kitchens, all within 20 minutes of the ballpark. This allows players ample time to seek daytime employment and continue their workout regiments."
No host families?
JH, they seem like a work in progress their “out team” section has expanded since last look. My son’s program is looking to put a few kids there, and one of the coaches mentioned it to me. My son will be out West, but for a West Coast kid it looks like it would be a fun place to spend the summer. I wondered about this however:
"Players will be housed in beach front condominiums or golf resort condominiums that are fully furnished with modern kitchens, all within 20 minutes of the ballpark. This allows players ample time to seek daytime employment and continue their workout regiments."
No host families?
Thanks BOF..........I've been in contact with one of the prospective coaches and from what he tells me, the league should have a good group of d1 players, although he hasn't given me any names yet.
We'd be happy to provide anyone with any information regarding the Myrtle Beach Collegiate Summer Baseball League!
This year will be our inaugural season! We will host over 250 players from more than 115 colleges, 35 states, and 4 countries (these numbers are slightly different on our website but will be updated within the next 24 hours).
Here is a link to a commercial for our league, the first of many videos to come on BeachLeagueTV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9HccNoCbak
Please feel free to reach out with any questions: nick@mbcsbl.org
This year will be our inaugural season! We will host over 250 players from more than 115 colleges, 35 states, and 4 countries (these numbers are slightly different on our website but will be updated within the next 24 hours).
Here is a link to a commercial for our league, the first of many videos to come on BeachLeagueTV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9HccNoCbak
Please feel free to reach out with any questions: nick@mbcsbl.org
Not a great experience. Too many players per team, condos are 10 miles from the beach, kind of stuck out in nowhere land. Screwed without a car. 5 per condo, instead of the advertised 4, meaning a kid is stuck out on the couch. Some one got a little greedy. Beach Front? LOL! Plus the wesite absolutely suks. The advertised web coverage is not even close to working.
I have heard nothing good about this league. The previous poster hit the nail on the head. Hearing a ton of complaints all around.
This is a big shame really. I think that the Myrtle Beach area would be an AWESOME place to have a summer league. A prime location.
I have to admit that I visited their website because I know a kid who went to play there. I wanted to see how he was doing. Their website homepage seems decent enough but when you go to see scores, stats, schedules, etc. they use Game Changer and it is not very informative at all. Maybe Im missing something.
I really hope they get the 1st year ailments fixed or the bad news will spread and it won't be long before it folds.
I have to admit that I visited their website because I know a kid who went to play there. I wanted to see how he was doing. Their website homepage seems decent enough but when you go to see scores, stats, schedules, etc. they use Game Changer and it is not very informative at all. Maybe Im missing something.
I really hope they get the 1st year ailments fixed or the bad news will spread and it won't be long before it folds.
The key for any summer league is one of two things: if it's a "beer league" (for profit), a good population base; if it's nonprofit league, a lot of willing volunteers and a lot of local businesses willing to spend money on promotions, signs, etc.
Without one or the other, it doesn't work.
Without one or the other, it doesn't work.
It takes a lot of time and work into making a "good" and successful league. Several leagues have this down to an art. It sounds bad, but you can tell a lot about a league by how user friendly and informative their website is. Some of the best leagues...i.e. Northwoods, Valley, CPL, WCL run very professional websites. It's also no fluke that the above mentioned leagues continue to grow.
I'm hearing that several kids are complaining that they basically lied to and duped into playing for this league.
I'm hearing that several kids are complaining that they basically lied to and duped into playing for this league.
That’s a shame. What a great location for a collegiate summer league. I hope the dissatisfied players are able to salvage their summer. Better yet, I hope the league gets their act together or helps the players get placed elsewhere.
You also need to check out the mess that is the ACBL. Their website not just stinks, but is horrible. I've received a ton of emails from parents asking for stats...etc. The league just doesn't seem to care that they are becoming irrelevant in terms of summer league baseball.
quote:Originally posted by 316sports:
You also need to check out the mess that is the ACBL. Their website not just stinks, but is horrible. I've received a ton of emails from parents asking for stats...etc. The league just doesn't seem to care that they are becoming irrelevant in terms of summer league baseball.
I reached out to several people involved with the ACBL yesterday and was told thing will get better....problem is, that's the same thing they told me 3 weeks ago.
The lack of stats on the ACBL site is only symptomatic of bigger problems. Some of the teams are run by folks more interested in propping up their baseball-related businesses than developing the players and the league. Coaches whose son bats 3rd and plays every inning without earning it...I expected that to end in HS!!!
All the more reason why you have to give a ton of credit to leagues like the Valley, CPL, Northwoods, WCL..etc...that are run very professionally.
quote:Originally posted by MadDogPA:
The lack of stats on the ACBL site is only symptomatic of bigger problems. Some of the teams are run by folks more interested in propping up their baseball-related businesses than developing the players and the league. Coaches whose son bats 3rd and plays every inning without earning it...I expected that to end in HS!!!
From what I've been hearing, I wouldn't be surprised if the ACBL doesn't make it as a league. If they stay around, it will be simply as one of the super-low tier leagues that are geared to help out local players.
The Hampton's Collegiate League might have a future, but will need a ton of work to get past the ill feelings they produced this season.
I have received 50+ emails from players families, coaches, a couple scouts and players themselves that want to know what's going on with the stats. I've emailed the league and have been give the run around. It's mind boggling to me that my son's 8 year old little league is run better. Our LL actually gives us coaches the boxscores and we even have "spray" charts for each hit, but the ACBL can't find a way to fix their issues.
My sons play in the ACBL in the Hamptons division. Their experience overall has been very positive and the team/league has done everything they said they would do from host family,to helping them find part-time jobs,and so on. They like their coaches and teammates, and the competition is good.
Their college coach gave them some things to work on this summer and told them not to worry about their stats. That's not easy for a player to do, but he just wants them to get experience and come back better players. Isn't that what it's all about?
As far as their website goes, the stats are generally up to date for their team but can run a game or two behind. But I see where other teams don't do as well with that. That doesn't bother me, but then again, I don't rely on it for material for my blog or obsess over my son's stats.
I'm sure everyone may not have had the same experience we have had, but thought I should add our perspective since only negative comments have been made.
Their college coach gave them some things to work on this summer and told them not to worry about their stats. That's not easy for a player to do, but he just wants them to get experience and come back better players. Isn't that what it's all about?
As far as their website goes, the stats are generally up to date for their team but can run a game or two behind. But I see where other teams don't do as well with that. That doesn't bother me, but then again, I don't rely on it for material for my blog or obsess over my son's stats.
I'm sure everyone may not have had the same experience we have had, but thought I should add our perspective since only negative comments have been made.
quote:Originally posted by lhprhp:
My sons play in the ACBL in the Hamptons division. Their experience overall has been very positive and the team/league has done everything they said they would do from host family,to helping them find part-time jobs,and so on. They like their coaches and teammates, and the competition is good.
Their college coach gave them some things to work on this summer and told them not to worry about their stats. That's not easy for a player to do, but he just wants them to get experience and come back better players. Isn't that what it's all about?
As far as their website goes, the stats are generally up to date for their team but can run a game or two behind. But I see where other teams don't do as well with that. That doesn't bother me, but then again, I don't rely on it for material for my blog or obsess over my son's stats.
I'm sure everyone may not have had the same experience we have had, but thought I should add our perspective since only negative comments have been made.
My son played in the Hampton's Division last year and I would agree that the overall competition and experience were excellent. The current problem is the website and the lack of updates. The old acbl-online.com site was a good site and was fairly accurate and timely last year. This year when I went to follow some of my son's old teammates and the old site had been switched and is not up to par. Also, it seems the competition in the NY (western LI and Staten Island), NJ, and PA leagues has taken a turn for the worse.
Lots of people count on the website, and this site can no longer be counted on to provide accurate and up to date information. In the long run that reflects poor on the league itself as a whole.
The ACBL has been a long standing league with a good reputation as a summer college league. It would be sad to see it continue to fall to mediocrity.
I just saw the Allentown Railers coach bunt again with runners on 1st and 2nd and 1 out...no wonder they are entrenched in the basement!!!
My god, I see the Myrtle Beach Collegiate Summer League is going to come back. Stay away, just like most of the coaches from last year are doing. Badly run rip off. No make up games, no all star game or picks, no accurate stat reporting. Many college coaches have already been warned.
Read this before you think about committing to this league.
http://www2.wbtw.com/news/2012...-league--ar-4264595/
http://www2.wbtw.com/news/2012...-league--ar-4264595/
This league is a scam. Run...don't walk away. Marty Radford is nothing more then the Bernie Madoff of summer baseball. He's scammed many kids and parents out of their entry fees, has a Facebook page for complaints against him and the MBCSBL Also to his credit he has several unresolved complaints with the NC and SC Better Business Bureau and one family has filed suit in Connecticut District Court. They all aren't wrong.
He needs to be investigated by the NC AG's office and the NCAA needs to know about his business practices. Coaches should NOT be sending players his way. He needs to be put behind bars.
Stay away, tell your friends and heck, tell your enemies.
Check it out.
They have a new website and are still in business. I hope the players have a better experience than last year:
Please note there is a 2nd collegiate league in MB run by Sean Lomas (KC Scout), which has NOT experienced those issues. Son just started there this week!
Thanks MadDog,
You are correct, of coarse. The name of the league run by Lomas is Beach Collegiate Baseball league, as opposed to The beach league, run by Marty Radford.
I have heard good things about Lomas' league.
Bishop, I wouldnt go so far as to say a ton of positives yet about this BCBL. I have a different point of view.
Eric G,
Thanks for the input. I wonder peoples opinion in general about the structure of different leagues. There seem, apart from for profit vs. non-profit.
There looks to be leagues that are a confederation of several teams with separate owners/presidents vs. Leagues that all the teams are owned by the commissioner/owner of the league.
Do people think there is an advantage for the player to one model over another. It seems to me I have heard more complaints about the leagues that are wholly owned by one individual than the leagues where the teams are owned and run separately. The two leagues fall into the later category.
Opinions?
My experience with NECBL has been great, website updated daily,, easy to use, watch,, listen to games. Very good baseball, well run league.
316sports: I don't like the idea of bring up HS players to the summer collegiate leagues, graduated or not. The guys playing these summer leagues are young men, my son is in his second summer in the NECBL and most of those guys are 20 and 21, and huge, strong men. I think you would be setting the HS player up for failure, an not much of a test for the college player. Most of these guys have one or two college seasons under there belt, no match for kids coming off HS seasons.