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D Doughnutman1,000+ posts
So the bat is legal for HS and college? How in the heck are they going to test a bat that plays lighter than it actually is due to decreased wind resistance? Would that make the 35/32 bat swing like a 35/30? Interesting can of worms Reebok has opened.

And I am with you Old School. Holes in paddles work very well. I was beat by a wide variety in my youth and the ones with the holes were the worst.
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L lodi14100+ posts
My son got to try one at "Bat Wars" and he loved it. He said that the vibration (sting as he put it)was gone. His travel ball coach has one as a team bat and in a tourney in October he used it all the time. He really liked it! It makes sense on what they are trying to do but what about the hitting surface? Most metal bats need to be rotated. With this one you only have the 2 sides
coach2709coach270910,000+ posts
Ok I'm not a scientist nor am I that smart but I just can't see this design making that huge of a difference in bat speed nor distance you can hit a ball.

The holes are just above the handle and before the barrel. That part of the bat is already small so how is that going to give you an advantage?

I'm at school and they block all the links you guys provided but I'm going to look at them tonight for more information.

So if there is less wind resistance does that mean kids in Colorado have to put them in a humidor with the baseballs?
SD 12's Dad10+ posts
I'm with you Coach2709. I just can't see that much difference in the small surface area of the handle. It seems like the better way to market this would be to show a proven increase in bat speed, measured with radar. Since they did not show that (unless I missed it) I would lean towards BS on the increased bat speed.

The holes would however dissipate the vibrations felt by the batter so it might be a worth a try. However I wouldn't expect an increase in bat speed only a better feel to the batter.
Midlo DadMidlo Dad10,000+ posts
Nothing new here. The bat I used to use back in the day had holes in it, too. Right where the barrel should have been.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

I do see one plus from this bat. If the pitcher can get his fastball in on the hands the way he should, this should cut down on those blooper hits you get with metal bats -- the ones that would be shattered bat pop ups with wood. If there's no mass in the handle/neck area, I don't see how the batter gets those Texas Leaguers any more.

What people forget about metal bats is that the difference (compared to wood) isn't so much in what happens when you hit it on the sweet spot. The big difference is in what happens when you DON'T hit the sweet spot. Here's a bat that gives away one of the primary advantages a metal bat gives a batter.

But I guess if you hype it enough, someone will shell out $350+ for it.
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coach2709coach270910,000+ posts
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Originally posted by Midlo Dad:
Nothing new here. The bat I used to use back in the day had holes in it, too. Right where the barrel should have been.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

I do see one plus from this bat. If the pitcher can get his fastball in on the hands the way he should, this should cut down on those blooper hits you get with metal bats -- the ones that would be shattered bat pop ups with wood. If there's no mass in the handle/neck area, I don't see how the batter gets those Texas Leaguers any more.

What people forget about metal bats is that the difference (compared to wood) isn't so much in what happens when you hit it on the sweet spot. The big difference is in what happens when you DON'T hit the sweet spot. Here's a bat that gives away one of the primary advantages a metal bat gives a batter.

But I guess if you hype it enough, someone will shell out $350+ for it.



Good points. I wonder how the ball will come off on a jam shot? Will a ball catch the rim of a hole and shoot off the bat at an odd angle? Will the bat be more susceptable to breaking where the holes will be?

I guess it shows that people will buy anything that seems "new" or "better than others".
Midlo DadMidlo Dad10,000+ posts
I remember when the EXO first came out. Similar idea -- reduce weight in the bat's neck, though they used carbon panels instead of holes.

Midlo Son bored a 2-seamer in on the fists of a kid with a brand new one, and the carbon panels exploded all out over the infield.

At least he got a new one under the warranty. Otherwise, it would have been $350 down the drain.

I have heard that the EXO's had this problem with soem frequency. Makes me wonder what difficulties the new bat will have.
N ncball100+ posts
Trust me, it's a great bat. Our guys love it. No gimmick. It's well balanced and our guys definitely felt less resistance. Regarding swinging wood over metal- Yes, it makes the game more interesting. That said, nobody in their right mind could ever say a wood bat works better than a metal bat regarding hitting a baseball (we are not talking about how it trains a hitter- only pure performance).
L LAball1,000+ posts
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Originally posted by Diablo con Huevos:
LA-
would love to know how you "drive ball" without momentum... please explain...


By applying a force on the bat, pushing it forward. If its just momentum then its just mass of the ball and velocity VS the velocity of the bat ( cant count the full mass of the bat because its rotating ). It mostly negates each other out, especially if you miss the sweet spot and even worse on a woody. An amateur swing is able to apply some force on the the bat at contact, but not like MLB. Its like a overhead press VS decline press, the decline allows the player to exert more force at contact due to the anatomical position of the hitter.
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