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Conversation with someone who owns a hitting facility.

Visitor: Where are the batting tees?

Owner: There are none. Took them out years ago. They are stupid. This is baseball, not golf. When in baseball do you ever get to hit a baseball that's standing perfectly still?

Visitor: OK, that's a point. But, everyone uses tees. Major Leaguers use them. Granted, the ball isn't moving. But, that's kinda the point of them - taking tracking and timing out of it which then allows you to focus on tuning your mechanics and coordination. Slowing it down to allow you to chunk it up and work on specific elements of the swing without worrying about contact.

Owner: I can do all that in front toss just as well as off the tee and it helps you more because it is closer to replicating game play.

Visitor: But, with the tee, someone can workout alone and you don't need to have another person to toss.

Owner: Just because you can do it alone doesn't make it valuable if it's replicating something that doesn't exist in the game. Again, when in baseball to you ever get to hit a baseball that's standing perfectly still and not moving in any direction? It's like practicing pitching without throwing a ball. Hitting is hitting a thrown ball. Hitting is not hitting off a tee.

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Thoughts on this?

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Back in the day when Terry Pendleton played for the St. Louis Cardinals, I had an opportunity to talk to him about hitting.  He was actually carrying a tee to take home on an off day.  He said that he knew his swing and his flaws.  He worked on a tee to work on the flaws.

I know several hitting instructors who don't believe in tee work.  To each their own.  I will give lessons tonight.  My hitters know that there are certain givens for my instruction.  They will get loosened up doing tee work.  We will do some breakdown drills and work on aspects of the swing.  However, we will also have balls in flight including front toss.  Tees are a tool.  As with all instruction in hitting, swings on the tee and balls in flight need a trained eye watching.  That is the point of instruction. 

BTW, on a scale of 1 to 10 my belief that the OP posted an actual conversation is roughly a 3.  LOL

Some of the new "data" type hitting coaches that are around now and active on social media are saying "no tee" because they want to make practice more "game like" and think that the tee can create bad habits.

Personally I like the tee for working on certain movements and drills but there should be a progression to live balls.

But there are some who want to ditch the tee altogether and want to make everything as game like as possible albeit I think to learn new movements a tee can be beneficial.

But I know some of those no tee guys are now in pro ball too and some teams have skipped your traditional 60 mph on field BP for high Velo machine work in cages.

“Owner: I can do all that in front toss just as well as off the tee and it helps you more because it is closer to replicating game play.”

3rd Random Hitting Coach also reinventing the wheel:  “front toss!?  When in Baseball do you face an underhand pitch from that close?!  Front toss!?!?  Are you training Baseball players, or Softball players?!”

This can be taken, ad nauseum, to its illogical conclusion where the only legit hitting practice is facing Jacob deGrom live and in person.

@Dominik85 posted:

Some of the new "data" type hitting coaches that are around now and active on social media are saying "no tee" because they want to make practice more "game like" and think that the tee can create bad habits.

Personally I like the tee for working on certain movements and drills but there should be a progression to live balls.

But there are some who want to ditch the tee altogether and want to make everything as game like as possible albeit I think to learn new movements a tee can be beneficial.

But I know some of those no tee guys are now in pro ball too and some teams have skipped your traditional 60 mph on field BP for high Velo machine work in cages.

This guy is probably like them. FWIW, if I had to guess age, he was under 30.

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