NWBB - we can tit for tat all night long. You are the one who suggested that you were a mind reader when you improperly inferred that there was a nefarious reason behind RJM's post. The moral superiority was simply inferred from your own racial indictment/prejudgment of RJM.
I can play the sarcasim game as well. If you think Seal is good looking, then I believe you.
Maybe it's time to put his thread to bed.
quote:Originally posted by Stage Dad 9:
Maybe it's time to put his thread to bed.
You might be right. I can close the thread but I would like at least two other members to second the motion before doing it. The other alternative is to move it into unusually unusual.
This is interesting:
Tiger Woods to pay his wife millions to stick by him
Peter Cohan
Dec 3rd 2009 at 3:00PM
Count me among those who do not think highly of people who have extra-marital affairs. The "good news" is that society has a way of making people pay for such transgressions, especially if you are a guy who makes a hefty living hitting little white balls around grassy landscapes. In the case of Tiger Woods, whose middle-of-the-night car accident last week brought to light allegations that the golfer was involved in an affair, the payment is pretty steep.
Not only has Woods issued a public apology on his web site, but the The Daily Beast reports that he will pay his wife, Elin Nordegren, $5 million upfront and another $55 million to persuade her to stay in their marriage for another 24 months.
Like many couples with tens of millions of dollars in their bank accounts, Woods and Nordegren have a prenuptial agreement -- and a big one at that. US Weekly reports that the prenup is worth $300 million, but other news outlets say it's a more modest amount. Either way, Nordegren was already entitled to a nice chunk of change.
According to The Daily Beast, the pre-nuptial agreement they signed in October 2004 would award Nordegren $20 million just for sticking with Woods for 10 years. But now that allegations of affairs with two women -- Jaimee Grubbs and Rachel Uchitel-- are making headlines, it looks like that contract is being tossed out the window and the couple are negotiating new, more lucrative terms for Nordegren.
Instead of waiting until 2014 for her $20 million payday, Nordegren will only need to stay married to Tiger until October 2011 and by doing so, will get more than twice what she was entitled to under the original pre-nup, according to The Daily Beast. The new agreement would also pay Nordegren more if she stayed even longer -- a staggered schedule of payments over five years that could top $75 million.
Getting that grand sum of $80 million (the $5 million she's getting upfront, plus the $75 million in the new pre-nup), however, will require Nordegren to stay with Tiger for another seven years, show up with him at social events and in public as if they were still the perfect couple, and sign a nondisclosure form that will prevent her from ever telling her story.
From Tiger's perspective, this is probably a good deal. After all, $80 million is a mere 8% of his $1 billion in career earnings as calculated by Forbes. An earlier Forbes report indicates that Woods has won more than $80 million on the golf course. Annual prize money, Forbes says, accounts for under 15% of his income. Sponsorship deals with Nike (NKE), Accenture (ACN), AT&T (T), Gatorade, and Procter & Gamble's (PG) Gillette pay him at least $100 million a year.
For now, all these sponsors are sticking with him. The jury is still out on whether they would view a serial adulterer as a good image for their products and services over the longer term.
So if Tiger can pay $80 million to stay married to Nordegren and somehow buff his image back to where those sponsors will want to keep forking over the cash, it would be a good investment. Of course, Tiger would still need to keep winning golf tournaments.
Meanwhile, I wonder whether he thinks his extracurricular activities were worth the price he's paying in Nordegren's eyes.
Tiger Woods to pay his wife millions to stick by him
Peter Cohan
Dec 3rd 2009 at 3:00PM
Count me among those who do not think highly of people who have extra-marital affairs. The "good news" is that society has a way of making people pay for such transgressions, especially if you are a guy who makes a hefty living hitting little white balls around grassy landscapes. In the case of Tiger Woods, whose middle-of-the-night car accident last week brought to light allegations that the golfer was involved in an affair, the payment is pretty steep.
Not only has Woods issued a public apology on his web site, but the The Daily Beast reports that he will pay his wife, Elin Nordegren, $5 million upfront and another $55 million to persuade her to stay in their marriage for another 24 months.
Like many couples with tens of millions of dollars in their bank accounts, Woods and Nordegren have a prenuptial agreement -- and a big one at that. US Weekly reports that the prenup is worth $300 million, but other news outlets say it's a more modest amount. Either way, Nordegren was already entitled to a nice chunk of change.
According to The Daily Beast, the pre-nuptial agreement they signed in October 2004 would award Nordegren $20 million just for sticking with Woods for 10 years. But now that allegations of affairs with two women -- Jaimee Grubbs and Rachel Uchitel-- are making headlines, it looks like that contract is being tossed out the window and the couple are negotiating new, more lucrative terms for Nordegren.
Instead of waiting until 2014 for her $20 million payday, Nordegren will only need to stay married to Tiger until October 2011 and by doing so, will get more than twice what she was entitled to under the original pre-nup, according to The Daily Beast. The new agreement would also pay Nordegren more if she stayed even longer -- a staggered schedule of payments over five years that could top $75 million.
Getting that grand sum of $80 million (the $5 million she's getting upfront, plus the $75 million in the new pre-nup), however, will require Nordegren to stay with Tiger for another seven years, show up with him at social events and in public as if they were still the perfect couple, and sign a nondisclosure form that will prevent her from ever telling her story.
From Tiger's perspective, this is probably a good deal. After all, $80 million is a mere 8% of his $1 billion in career earnings as calculated by Forbes. An earlier Forbes report indicates that Woods has won more than $80 million on the golf course. Annual prize money, Forbes says, accounts for under 15% of his income. Sponsorship deals with Nike (NKE), Accenture (ACN), AT&T (T), Gatorade, and Procter & Gamble's (PG) Gillette pay him at least $100 million a year.
For now, all these sponsors are sticking with him. The jury is still out on whether they would view a serial adulterer as a good image for their products and services over the longer term.
So if Tiger can pay $80 million to stay married to Nordegren and somehow buff his image back to where those sponsors will want to keep forking over the cash, it would be a good investment. Of course, Tiger would still need to keep winning golf tournaments.
Meanwhile, I wonder whether he thinks his extracurricular activities were worth the price he's paying in Nordegren's eyes.
Weird thread.
The thing I get out of this thread is that many of you gents don't understand what most women look for in a man. Rarely is it good looks.
The thing I get out of this thread is that many of you gents don't understand what most women look for in a man. Rarely is it good looks.
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Throw it in the loony bin CD. It'll have plenty of good company!
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Throw it in the loony bin CD. It'll have plenty of good company!
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Never gave it much thought until now. But I looked it up and found out that Seal's skin was damaged by something called Discoid Lupus. So which of you members of the beauty police is going to run to the children's hospitals and tell kids scarred by accident or disease they can't marry someone "beautiful" cause they're "ugly"?
quote:Originally posted by ClevelandDad:
NWBB - we can tit for tat all night long. You are the one who suggested that you were a mind reader when you improperly inferred that there was a nefarious reason behind RJM's post. The moral superiority was simply inferred from your own racial indictment/prejudgment of RJM.
I explained my reasons. If you choose to reject them, so be it.
We obviously have had different experiences with race issues. Black and white differences you might say.
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I would but I can't get it out of gear! Guess I'll have to
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- "So which of you members of the beauty police is going to run to the children's hospitals and tell kids afflicted with various conditions they can't marry someone beautiful cause they're ugly?"
I would but I can't get it out of gear! Guess I'll have to
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quote:Has anyone asked Heidi what she thinks ?
I think she is very happy.They just had their third baby, I believe she had a daughter when she married Seal.I will say this, you don't see them in the tabloids, or too much negative publicity on them.I saw them both on a talk show, he is a gentlemen and quite in love with his wife. Maybe becuse he treats her like a lady, and loves her and their kids is whats important to her.When you see them together, they have def. chemisty.Sometimes beautiful women have a hard time finding men that love them for themselves,maybe Heidi has found this in her husband.
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quote:Originally posted by ClevelandDad:quote:Originally posted by Stage Dad 9:
Maybe it's time to put his thread to bed.
You might be right. I can close the thread but I would like at least two other members to second the motion before doing it. The other alternative is to move it into unusually unusual.
I am with ya both, time to close it.
quote:Originally posted by TPM:
I am with ya both, time to close it.
Thread closed.