Observations and questions

Priceless Gamer!!!! Will June Jones take the war dance to SMU with him if he takes that job?

How many teams that don't have a war dance didn't play in a bowl game?

Is it Hawaii's fault that the media hyped the dance?

Its the medias fault they hyped a team that didnt play anyone all year long. The best team in their conference outside of them was smacked down in a bowl game by ECU.

I am most interested in the answer to number 3.

After a thorough ***-kicking - did they continue dancing?

LOL

I'm sure the University was and still is dancing. I was out in Hawaii during the bowl game and the coverage was simply overwhelming. Yes, they got their butts handed to them and for the record I'm a GA fan, but you couldn't pay enough for all the FREE coverage Hawaii received over the last several weeks and by this post continues today. Coach May pretty much said all you need to know, they played no one all season long. They got their day in lime light, coach will now get his millions and it was a great story for the press but in the end a nightmare of a game.

I think there a few other teams that have had their butts pummeled in past bowl games as well.

Question number 4

Is there a dance for getting annihiliated?

Again - I dont know much about college football.

Just wondering?

LOL

Question # 5 - if there is such a dance - will anyone be willing to perform it after the ***-beating?

Question # 6
Is it a football game - or a circus act?

Snowman - I am just getting started with my questions - so hold on tight baby!

LOL

So you take great joy in Hawaii's butt kicking at the expense of the players?

I don't see how that can make anyone feel good.

Question #7

Will pre-game dancing be a new NCAA requirement for all athletes?

LOL

Question #8

What is the Samoan equivalent in the English language for
" We just got our asses beat all over the field"

Again - just wondering.

LOL

I believe half the Hawaii football team is from the South Pacific. Many of the rest are from Hawaii where the South Pacific has had tremendous influence in the culture. The dance is a South Pacific tribal war ritual. If it brings team unity and pumps up the players, why not? The media jumped on it since it's not the "same 'ole, sale 'ole" they typically serve up for games.

If by SMU you mean Southern Methodist, there's a reasonable Samoan population in the Dallas area. There are high schools in the area doing the dance as a pregame ritual.

Newsclip from Dallas TV station

Here's a clip of Trinity (TX) High School. They were state champions. The guy leading this might intimidate the "average" high school player.

Trinity pregame

Question #9

Would you dance like a trained circus seal for money?

If someone offered you $50,000 to balance a ball on your nose and act like a god **** fool - would you do it?

Just wondering.

RJNM,

Yeah - thats cool.

Its all good - people doing their "thang".

LOL

How about this perspective - how about not acting like a god **** idiot.

What a boring and pedestrian idea.
LOL

But its all cool baby. LOL

Question #10

For $100,000 - would you stuff in it your opponents face?

How about for $10?

Or would you play the game with class and dignity - and keep your clownlike behavior in check until you got to the local bar?

Question #11

When you are 40 years old - are you still going to act like an ***-hole - and be proud of your classless behavior.

Will you be proud remembering when you stuck your elitist BS in someone's face?

Or will you play the game with pride and dignity and respect?

Just wondering

quote:

How about this perspective - how about not acting like a god **** idiot.

quote:

How about this perspective - how about not acting like a god **** idiot.

That train left the station a long time ago in football. Look at the end zone celebrations. Look at the sack dances. Look at the posturing and trash talking after making a routine tackle for a two yard loss.

Look at baseball with the posturing and machinations watching a homer fly out of the park.

quote:

Would you dance like a trained circus seal for money? If someone offered you $50,000 to balance a ball on your nose and act like a god **** fool - would you do it?

There are many people who will do it for a lot less.

RJM,

I didnt ask about trains.

Granted - I asked about a bunch of things - but trains were not part of any of my queries.

Lets parse this stuff up - shall we?

RJM

I asked for answers - because I was wondering.

You got any?

quote:

When you are 40 years old - are you still going to act like an ***-hole - and be proud of your classless behavior.

I'll bet most people forty and over can look back and say "I can't believe I did that!" When my kids were born I noticed teens in public places more often. I'd chuckle and think, "Yep, I used to be an *******!" It makes me grateful my kids (14 and 19) behave the way they do based on adult feedback/compliments I get.

Then again, most parents thought I was charming and well behaved. The few that saw through me laughed about it with me when I was older.

quote:

Granted - I asked about a bunch of things - but trains were not part of any of my queries.

I'll assume you're intelligent to know what I was saying.

RJM - I am really glad I cant say the same thing.

And I hope my kids wont be able to either.

RJM - no - I am not intelligent enough to understand you.

I am rather slow-witted - Its a burden I have to carry.

You have to walk me through it - slowly.

quote:

I am really glad I cant say the same thing.

You never did anything as a high school or college kid that you looked back on and questioned it when you were older? As for continuing this exchange, for some reason I believe you're attempting to create a personal confrontation so I'm bowing out.

RJM,

You are absolutely correct.

its, I can answer #9

quote:

Question #9

Would you dance like a trained circus seal for money?

Depends on how much money

If someone offered you $50,000 to balance a ball on your nose and act like a god **** fool - would you do it?

This one is easy, give me the ball. I've acted like a complete fool, free of charge!

Source: World Wide Web CBS Evening News

Friday Night Lights Meet The Haka
All-Out Maori Tribal Dance Pumps Up Teams From Tonga To Texas
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EULESS, Tex., Nov. 13, 2007

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(CBS) As the Trinity Trojans rush onto the football field every Friday night, the drummers drum, the cheerleaders cheer, and the players … dance?

This is the Haka, an ancient war dance from the fierce Maori tribes of New Zealand, now a football ritual in Texas, CBS News correspondent Hari Sreenivasan reports.

“It helps me a lot to get pumped up,” said player Numi Lolohea. “To get motivated to get into the game.”

“If you gonna do it you got to be serious,” said Mao Leota, another player. “[Its] about getting ready for war.”

You gotta get ready for war?

“Yes sir,” Leota said.

Polynesian players introduced the Haka two years ago. Trinity won the state championship.

They're still dancing and making bruising hits, and beautiful catches. The announcer might say: “Touchdown, Number 84! Tuomoepa!”

That tongue twister is a Tongan last name.

Number 84's mom, Martha, is convinced the Haka has something to do with it.

“Oh yeah, very, he was very shy at first,” she said.

On the field the Haka dance is a source of inspiration for one of the best high school football teams in Texas. Off the field it's a source of pride for a tight-knit community.

From their tiny Polynesian homeland, thousands of Tongans have moved to Texas to take advantage of airline jobs at Dallas-Fort Worth airport - and the flight privileges home that come with them.

So many Tongans that they have their own television program. The Haka is a point of pride, a reassuring symbol that they aren’t on the sidelines anymore.

“A reassurance from the outside world that we are part of this community - reassurance that they accept us as we are,” said Ilaiasi Ofa of the Voice of Tonga show.

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And it’s not just Texas. The Haka is a worldwide phenomenon.

In New Zealand, the All Blacks rugby team has been doing the dance for decades.

College teams from Hawaii to Utah fire up fans with their own versiona.

And on YouTube, there’s even a team of gingerbread men doing the Haka as a commercial for a New Zealand bakery.

No matter who's doing it: It’s all out.

Sreenivasan asked one player: “you went hoarse doing it?”

“Yeah, I'm surprised I didn't pull a muscle!” one player said.

It just may become the new Friday night lights battle cry.

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isinthegame

Aren't you messing with kids on this thread?

Can't have it both ways.

My curiosity would be why you are attempting to create a confrontation over an observation that neither supported nor condemned the situation?

snowman....the same thought crossed my mind as well except for his " LOL "

PG, - LOL

How much?

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Originally posted by snowman:
isinthegame

Aren't you messing with kids on this thread?

Can't have it both ways.

Actually - I can - I just did it - didnt I?

Asking questions about players that act like clowns - is alot different than denigrating a specific individual because of his abilities.

So - my questions remain - and my warning to you about denigrating a specific youth player remains also.

LOL - Read that again - LOL

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Originally posted by j2h6:
snowman....the same thought crossed my mind as well except for his " LOL "

Check your mind again - and read the LOL again.

Then - at some point - maybe you will attempt to answer the questions I asked.

LOL

its...did the wife assign you too many chores this weekend? LOL

Question #12

After getting annihiliated - do you still feel as strongly about performing your "War Dance" as you did prior to the beating you took?

Just wondering.

quote:

Originally posted by j2h6:
its...did the wife assign you too many chores this weekend? LOL

Its not proper etiquette to talk about someone's wife on the HSBBWeb.

Its rude - and disrespectful. Plus - shes a nice lady. LOL

Stop it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are killing me!!!!!!!
I have to go along with PG. I would do it for alot less than 50 k. Ive made a complete *** out of myself for free many times.

Folks dont you get Gamers point? Just play the game. All dances and tribal rituals in the world will not help you make a tackle or catch a pass. Just play the game.

Kudos to the Rose Bowl folks. Stick with tradition and take Ill instead of Georgia. Nice Rose Bowl game. I bet Hawaii wishes Ill would have shown up instead of the Dawgs. Maybe they could have danced some.

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Originally posted by Coach May:

Folks dont you get Gamers point? Just play the game. All dances and tribal rituals in the world will not help you make a tackle or catch a pass. Just play the game.

Bingo!