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MAM posted:

BogeyorPar -- I guess a few other schools do likely letters.  Grinnell's arrived yesterday.  The head of admissions and the coach both told my son that they get a few (2 or 3) of those each season they allocate to recruits.  The letter basically said that unless he screws up badly -- he will be admitted.

Once again, that's evidence of how excited they are to have him. In my opinion, It's really important.

One other thing about Grinnell recruiting, Last spring my son received a hand written post card from Miami from Coach Hollibaugh. The post card pic was a touristy sort of 'Palm trees , beach and girls' really got his attention. Aside from being a  crafty recruiting technique, it say's they do a 1st class spring trip. Which also says they're well funded.

Grinnell has one of the biggest endowments in academia. If I'm not mistaken, the fund is managed by berkshire hathaway.

Once again congrats on the great choice!

 

smokeminside posted:

At the risk of highjacking this thread, I would like to reflect on this quote from Branson, above:

At this stage for 2017's, you know if a D1 is interested as they've offered already.  And many players know if a D3 is interested as they've offered roster spots now too.  Always exceptions to this, but it's been our experience.

It seems that way to me, too, but my son is trying to interpret an email he got in the last day or so.  It's from the RC of one of the top-ten schools in the  D3 baseball poll  (and also a school that would be considered high academic).  The RC's email invites him to their fall prospect camp, with words to the effect that one of their coaches saw him at a camp last summer and thinks he could be a good fit, athletically and academically. They want him to come to camp to see if the match will pan out.

Other than being addressed directly to my son, it appears to be generic, with a lot of non-specific language (for example, it never mentions what camp they saw him at, nor the position he plays), and the unsubscribe feature is at the bottom of the email.  My son has never contacted the school, and it is the first email he's received from the baseball coach.  He does fit their academic profile, and has received general emails and mailings, like everyone else who's of age and has a pulse, from their admissions office. 

My take on this is that it's pretty late in the game for my son to take seriously.  Besides the fact that my son has other offers that he's been weighing carefully, the camp is AFTER a lot of schools' ED deadline.  If they were highly interested in him, we think they would have contacted him right after whatever camp they saw him at, and he would have seriously considered the school.  We think this invite, while not a straightforward money grab, is more along the lines of them thinking of my son as bottom of the roster insurance. 

Is that too wildly speculative?

Of course there is no way for us to know for sure but at this stage last year our 2016 had received very specific emails from D3 academic schools that listed exactly where they had seen him and exactly what they liked.  They then invited him to visit the school, attend classes, meet the coaching staff etc - you know the drill.  They all had camps coming up but none of them mentioned the camps.  At this stage for a 2017 they would be inviting you to visit the school and when you say yes, they ask for transcripts so they can begin the vetting with admissions (if they haven't already). 

I sat in the outfield at son's school last night - and it's recruit weekend this weekend there.  It is actually exactly one year ago this weekend that we visited so lots of memories.  Recruits there yesterday/today - and then prospect camp tomorrow.  Our son did not attend the prospect camp.  I spoke with one of the recruit's dad last night and he had all the same worries we had a year ago.  He's also not attending the camp on Sunday.  I told him that he wouldn't be at the visit, meeting the coaches and staying over with the team if they didn't know for sure they wanted him - he'd be going to the camp on Sunday.  

I agree with your conclusion and don't think it's too wildly speculative.  

Edit to note that I'm often completely wrong and I'm obviously not an expert.  Just my opinion.

Last edited by MKbaseballdad
MAM posted:

BogeyorPar -- I guess a few other schools do likely letters.  Grinnell's arrived yesterday.  The head of admissions and the coach both told my son that they get a few (2 or 3) of those each season they allocate to recruits.  The letter basically said that unless he screws up badly -- he will be admitted.

Thanks, that just shows that the coach really love your son. Good position to be in.

My other half of the question remains -- do they offer scholarship with the likely letter? It's unlikely for Californians to get need based aid, and I heard merit aid usually comes late in the Spring?

I remember a long thread with a CA parent, whose son finally made it to Stevens Tech with great merit aid. In his situation, the CA salary is high enough to not qualify for any need based aid, so he has to apply to multiple regular admissions and wait for merit aid offers.

I'm not sure if need based aid take regional cost of living into account. For example, I just went to Salary.com and enter $200,000 in San Francisco and see what's the equivalent at Des Moines, IA. It looks like $114,215. With $114,215 you can probably get some need based aid; but $200,000 is probably gonna be deemed "too rich for aid", although it's equivalent to $114,215 if adjusted for cost of living.

JCG posted:

Why would it be any more or less likely for Ca kids to get aid at Grinnell?  BTW on a per student basis Grinnell has one of the largest endowments in the country and is one of the few schools  that meets 100% of demonstrated need.

Depends on how the school calculates "demonstrated need."   Some schools -- like Stanford -- uses its own formula.        If a school just uses the FAFSA formula it will be WAY less generous than Stanford's formula.  

According to FAFSA our "expected family contribution"  is something like 95,000.  That's ridiculously unrealistic. 

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