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Originally Posted by throw'n bb's:

 Bottom line you will not find a top level D1 taking a chance on a 5-11 87mph 2015.  When/if he throws 90-91 they will be interested.  By the way I was a D1 pitcher throwing 93/94 at 5-10.  I threw harder than anyone in my state but got my scholarship two weeks before school started while all the 6-4 89/90 guys had already signed.  

throw'n, Bum, Jr. was 5'9" at 88 MPH and was an early sign.  Of course, it helped he was left-handed and had a plus curve.  I'm just taking issue with the "short guys have to throw 96" comment.  There's also short guys with plus stuff.

Been a lurker for about 3 months.  Really wish we would have found this site Freshman year!! I have to agree the advice and info on here is spot on, and we are watching prophecy become reality.  Here is the deal, 2014 RHP, started HS @ 6'2", 170#,  FB @  83-84 MPH, now 3years later @ 6'8", 226# , FB 89 MPH. Never crested 90, which is "the ticket" into the show, no matter how tall you are. Fell off the radar for all Ivy & Major D1's this summer, that had been in contact since Soph. year.  Yes, size does matter, in this case it is a hinderance, because still growing and keeping mechanics in line, and will not peak till 19-20 years old with MPH . Scout coach tells him he is actually pitching backwards as he has full command & spot on location in any count of 2-3 other pitches.  He stated, "Actually a curse for the young kids hitting 92-95 MPH now in HS, as most times they don't develop the other pitches in college, before the coach is off looking for a new girlfriend throwing 90+ in High School. Grades do matter no matter the size of the player...3.97 GPA, threshold is a 4.0 with a minimum SAT of 1800. Just returned from Service Academy..left the door open, going on three officials in the next 3 weeks.  On spring watch list for 3 major D1's. Yes, looking for more advice boys.  Keep the positive encouragement coming,  what a roller coaster!

I know of a kid in our area 6'7"210lbs. junior year throwing 84-85. He was getting looks from academic's 4.0 2000 sat & 32 act. Summer after junior year hit 95 & was sitting 90-93 and grew to 6'9" 230lbs. Said to have turned down 3 mill in the draft signed with PAC 12 school.

He did the much controversial weighted ball program fall before his junior year. Not sure if that was what made the difference or if it was just going to happen anyway.

Your son should continue to work hard, train and continue to get the right coaching. Having command on all pitches matters. 89 is good velo to go along with his other stuff will get him an offer.

Get him a good nutritionist to help with the weight.

Let me get this straight.  Your son is 6'8", throws 89, has "spot-on" command of four pitches, but these D1 coaches are looking at all the other guys throwing 92-95?  Huh? 

 

First off, you can probably count the guys throwing 95 in h.s. in all of America on one hand.  Second, I find it hard to believe your son isn't getting high D1 interest if he's got MPH and command.  My guess is the quality of his breaking pitches are not good enough.  He should focus on three --not four or five-- pitches (fastball, curve, and change) and work this offseason with a qualified pitching instructor.  I'm guessing he can get it over the plate but the spin/fade is not happening. 

 

Good luck.

With all this discussion about size, I just came across some very interesting info.  PG just published its velocity information for this past WWBA World in Jupiter.  No less than 180 kids broke the 90mph mark!!  46 of those were 2015s and 5 or 6 were 2016s.  I don't know the size of these kids but I would bet it doesn't matter to most coaches.  If these guys can "pitch" and have decent secondary pitches I am quite sure all of them will see a pretty good college roster spot and a lot of them will be drafted.  Pretty amazing.  I was talking to an "agent" a couple of days ago and he was telling me that a scout friend of his said that 5-7 years ago he only knew of a half dozen kids that could top 90.  Not sure how much farther this can go but those numbers are pretty incredible.

If all the variables (velocity, movement, stuff, mental makeup, grades, etc.) other than height are equal chances are the 6'2" kid is chosen over the 5'10" kid. But the variables aren't always the same. So don't worry about what you can't control and find some programs that show some love. They're out there.

  So did you tell the coach, thanks for the hint. but I guess you will be watching me play against you from someother school . Wishing you made me that offer that day. That tells me he is not interested and then I move on to another school of interest. and dont look back.
Tell the coach good luck and have a good season.

 After the camp, the coach pulled him aside and said if you were taller you would be leaving with an offer today.

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