PBR Super 60

Nice.  Thanks for sharing.  Was looking at the 'registered roster' last week and there are some impressive measurables with those in attendance.  I know measurables are not everything, but dang.  Those kids stand out

The measurables are already up on PBR's website.

nycdad posted:

The measurables are already up on PBR's website.

Does anyone know if the exit velo numbers are off of a tee, or hitting off of a pitch?

I think it was off pitches only because they were posting videos almost immediately after the BP and including exit velos.  I’m not positive.

baseballhs posted:

I think it was off pitches only because they were posting videos almost immediately after the BP and including exit velos.  I’m not positive though.

I would assume based on the posted times, some of which were 100mph+.  thx

I was following the coverage on Twitter and Instagram. That was cool to watch. My son and I were going through some of the players swings and breaking them down in slow motion to see what they were doing. If they were there, posting those type of numbers, they have to be doing something right. 

I would be surprised if these exit velo's were NOT taken off a tee. Most exit velo's PBR posts are off a tee although sometimes it's a metal bat and sometimes a wood bat. Lately I've seen a notation indicating that a wood bat was used (most PBR Pro Showcases are wood bat) but not always. I guess it depends of the state/region running the event. This is one reason I think PG's metrics are more accurate--they try to follow the same standard at all events.

Here is a link to the 2019 PG National workout results (which are sortable) from last summer's event in Phoenix, AZ.  Don't confused by the Tropicana Field reference in the title--for some reason it got changed (bad web design?) after they announced the 2020 event which WILL be hosted at Tropicana.

https://www.perfectgame.org/ev...ults.aspx?event=9926

Quite a few of the same players who attended this past weekend were also there but there were MANY MORE at the PG event so I think you will find the exit velo's posted for the Super 60 are pretty typical given the selective nature of the event.

Every possible evaluative, analytical tool I've seen was being used.  Including Visual Edge, which I had to look up because I hadn't heard of it.  It was done very first rate and needed to be with all the scouts and levels of scouts attending.  This was a National event, so not run by a particular state.  My son attended the National last year as well and obviously doing a showcase on a pro field (and seeing your kid on the big screen!) was cool, but they were both top quality showcases.  The Super 60 did not have live scrimmages.

I just mentioned the lack of standards to point out the differences between the Super 60 and regular state-run PBR events. Sometimes you'll find that the small events are a bit different, such as gathering exit velocity during BP or not denoting that the event was wood bat vs. metal bat.

Certainly the Super 60 used all the latest metric gatherings tools but it is quite different from a regular local PBR event. But that's my point--it IS different.

The PG National Showcase gathers metrics the same way as it does in other PG showcases. That's why you if didn't have an opportunity to attend a National event like the PG National you would still have accurate metrics to compare yourself against. Not so with the Super 60 if metrics were collected differently. Laser timed 60's vs stopwatch, etc.. All PG 60's are laser timed.  I'm not saying advanced tools weren't used at the PG National (MLB scouts certainly had them) but the metrics posted are collected the same way as they are in regional events. For instance, the two people recording catcher velocity are standing in the same place (1st base side of pitcher's mound) using similar model radar guns. I've seen PBR collect the same metric from:

1. Behind the plate

2. Behind second base

3. An advanced device mounted between home and the mound in a direct line with second base (Super 60)

All three above can result in different metrics although I would say the Super 60's was the most accurate. You just can't really compare it to the other two collection types.

I know the Super 60 is a great event and it is well-run and uses great tools. The point of my earlier post was to show the sheer number of players that post similar or better numbers (many attended both events). That just shows how many talented players are out there! Not to mention the number of players that will "surface" later as can't-miss MLB prospects who never attended any showcase!

I would agree with that. I think our state has a well run PBR, but I’ve heard it’s not all equal.  

The level of talent now as opposed to 10 years ago is really night and day.  There are sooo many kids who are posting crazy stats.

Just got back from this year's Super60.  It was exactly as @baseballhs said except it was running late.  PO's checked in at 10:30.  My son threw around 4:00 so lots of standing and sitting around for him.  There was some amazing talent, TONS of scouts, advisors, etc.  The boy was super happy with his performance considering it was his 3rd bullpen of the year.

The number one thing that stood out.  Size and strength.  A lot of these kids are huge and very, very well developed.  My boy is a super late bloomer, now 6'6" and shaves once every 2 weeks.  Some of these kids looked like 25 year olds and were well over 200 lbs.

@Master P posted:

Just got back from this year's Super60.  It was exactly as @baseballhs said except it was running late.  PO's checked in at 10:30.  My son threw around 4:00 so lots of standing and sitting around for him.  There was some amazing talent, TONS of scouts, advisors, etc.  The boy was super happy with his performance considering it was his 3rd bullpen of the year.

The number one thing that stood out.  Size and strength.  A lot of these kids are huge and very, very well developed.  My boy is a super late bloomer, now 6'6" and shaves once every 2 weeks.  Some of these kids looked like 25 year olds and were well over 200 lbs.

Great event with alot of talent. My son pitched a few kids before a 6'6" pitcher which I assume is yours so yes to lots of standing and sitting around that affected our sons performance to certain extend. Nothing we can control tho.  Fantastic experience otherwise and as you said very happy with the performance that early in the season.

Any update on the exit velo?  I know most pbr events are off of someone pitching.

@Dadof3 posted:

Any update on the exit velo?  I know most pbr events are off of someone pitching.

2 kids maxed 108.    20 were 100+

Has to be pitched balls, right?

@Dadof3 posted:

Has to be pitched balls, right?

Yeah, it was a standard BP, wood bat.

My son played against Joe Adell growing up. Set a record maybe at PBR for velo. I kept track of him through High School. Numbers were impressive vs HS pitching. Touched his foot in the biggs, but so far that's about it. So many others around us that were drafted AA was the ceiling for them. If you are talking about making it to the show, doesn't matter what you did off at some event, or hitting HS pitching, or some bat speed numbers, taking that last step vs MLB level pitching is really  f'ing difficult.

@SomeBaseballDad posted:

My son played against Joe Adell growing up. Set a record maybe at PBR for velo. I kept track of him through High School. Numbers were impressive vs HS pitching. Touched his foot in the biggs, but so far that's about it. So many others around us that were drafted AA was the ceiling for them. If you are talking about making it to the show, doesn't matter what you did off at some event, or hitting HS pitching, or some bat speed numbers, taking that last step vs MLB level pitching is really  f'ing difficult.

Not quite true, you have to have the numbers or you don’t even get a shot at the mlb level!