anyone have any experiences with penn state? good team?
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They are in the Big Ten for baseball...says it all.
Apparently they have a nice, new stadium.
Big dogs in the Big Ten are Ohio State; Minnesota; and, now, Michigan is making a splash.
Everyone else is an also-ran.
If you can play, you go down South.
Apparently they have a nice, new stadium.
Big dogs in the Big Ten are Ohio State; Minnesota; and, now, Michigan is making a splash.
Everyone else is an also-ran.
If you can play, you go down South.
great facilities, good school and coaches. Yes, they are north of the mason dixon line but they are trying their best to turn the program around and certainly every year continue to improve in all aspects to include who they're recruiting.
quote:Originally posted by BeenthereIL:
If you can play, you go down South.
What a load of C R A P
quote:Originally posted by BeenthereIL:
If you can play, you go down South.
What's the point of saying this?
The last 2/3 of the season last year, Penn State played as well as or better than anybody in the Big 10. They took the season series from Michigan, Ohio State, and Minnesota and went deeper in the Big 10 tournament than Michigan who was the host. Of course, Minnesota knocked out #8 national seed San Diego and Michigan advanced to the Super Regionals versus Oregon State after defeating #1 national seed Vanderbilt. Ohio State also played well in the regionals last year. Below is PSU's record against these teams and the Big 10 tournament last year.
Fri., Mar. 30 vs. Minnesota * University Park, Pa. W, 3-0
Sat., Mar. 31 vs. Minnesota * University Park, Pa. W, 3-2
vs. Minnesota University Park, Pa. L, 9-2
Sat., May 12 at Michigan * University Park, Pa. L, 11-5
at Michigan * Ann Arbor, Mich. W, 5-4 (9inn.)
Sun., May 13 at Michigan * Ann Arbor, Mich. W, 9-3
at Michigan * Ann Arbor, Mich. W, 15-5
Fri., May 18 vs. Ohio State * University Park, Pa. W, 3-2
Sat., May 19 vs. Ohio State * University Park, Pa. W, 4-2
vs. Ohio State University Park, Pa. W, 3-2
Sun., May 20 vs. Ohio State * University Park, Pa. L, 3-2
Wed., May 23 vs. Ohio State Ann Arbor, Mich. L, 10-3
Thu., May 24 vs. Iowa Ann Arbor, Mich. W, 5-3
Fri., May 25 vs. Michigan Ann Arbor, Mich. W, 6-5 (10 inn.)
vs. Illinois Ann Arbor, Mich. W, 6-2
Sat., May 26 vs. Minnesota Ann Arbor, Mich. L, 4-3 (11 inn.)
Fri., Mar. 30 vs. Minnesota * University Park, Pa. W, 3-0
Sat., Mar. 31 vs. Minnesota * University Park, Pa. W, 3-2
vs. Minnesota University Park, Pa. L, 9-2
Sat., May 12 at Michigan * University Park, Pa. L, 11-5
at Michigan * Ann Arbor, Mich. W, 5-4 (9inn.)
Sun., May 13 at Michigan * Ann Arbor, Mich. W, 9-3
at Michigan * Ann Arbor, Mich. W, 15-5
Fri., May 18 vs. Ohio State * University Park, Pa. W, 3-2
Sat., May 19 vs. Ohio State * University Park, Pa. W, 4-2
vs. Ohio State University Park, Pa. W, 3-2
Sun., May 20 vs. Ohio State * University Park, Pa. L, 3-2
Wed., May 23 vs. Ohio State Ann Arbor, Mich. L, 10-3
Thu., May 24 vs. Iowa Ann Arbor, Mich. W, 5-3
Fri., May 25 vs. Michigan Ann Arbor, Mich. W, 6-5 (10 inn.)
vs. Illinois Ann Arbor, Mich. W, 6-2
Sat., May 26 vs. Minnesota Ann Arbor, Mich. L, 4-3 (11 inn.)
quote:They are in the Big Ten for baseball...says it all.
Apparently they have a nice, new stadium.
Big dogs in the Big Ten are Ohio State; Minnesota; and, now, Michigan is making a splash.
Everyone else is an also-ran.
If you can play, you go down South.
You know, this is the type of garbage that has contributed to me being less active on this site recently. Dan, thanks for posting the info you did on Penn State. If the original poster would like any further info on Penn State, my son plays for the Nittany Lions and I would be most happy to correspond about the program via PM.
quote:Originally posted by Beezer:quote:Originally posted by BeenthereIL:
If you can play, you go down South.
What's the point of saying this?
I agree, what IS the point?
please don't stay away because of the opinions of others ...quote:by Bt-Il: "Big dogs in the Big Ten are Ohio State; Minnesota; and, now, Michigan is making a splash. Everyone else is an also-ran.
If you can play, you go down South."
lvbb says:
"You know, this is the type of garbage that has contributed to me being less active on this site recently
but if you are slowing down a bit ....
well that's ok
it's called regional competition/rivals .. get over itquote:by BeenthereIL:
If you can play, you go down South.
What's the point of saying this?
it must be pretty much healthy as the CEO of General Electric (a Tech alum) spoke at the GT graduation in May and basicly made fun of & destroyed UGA for a large portion of his talk (justifiably so)
Lots of folks say lots of things about who is better than who - and what is better than what.
Its just talk.
The only thing that matters is what you actually do - not what you say.
My favorite example of this is Joe Louis.
A historically significant event - and having been beaten once already - here is Mr. Louis's "answer" to all that was being said about "superiority" - LOL
His right hand needed no explanation.
http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=6140
Its just talk.
The only thing that matters is what you actually do - not what you say.
My favorite example of this is Joe Louis.
A historically significant event - and having been beaten once already - here is Mr. Louis's "answer" to all that was being said about "superiority" - LOL
His right hand needed no explanation.
http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=6140
quote:
but if you are slowing down a bit ....
well that's ok
Obviously you didn't see me hit those Black Friday sales today!
Once again, 90% of what I've said is undisputed.
You're upset about my saying that if you can play, you go South. That is just a fact of life. Little dose of reality setting in for some?
To whom it may concern: I'm sure that your son would have pitched just as well playing for ????? up North. I don't think so.
The players are in Florida; Georgia; Texas; Louisiana; Arizona; and, California...all South, Southeast and Southwest.
No big thing. Just deal with it.
You're upset about my saying that if you can play, you go South. That is just a fact of life. Little dose of reality setting in for some?
To whom it may concern: I'm sure that your son would have pitched just as well playing for ????? up North. I don't think so.
The players are in Florida; Georgia; Texas; Louisiana; Arizona; and, California...all South, Southeast and Southwest.
No big thing. Just deal with it.
Yes - and Southern Indiana too!
LOL
LOL
2007 Draft stats
A sampling - by HOME state of player
California - 260 players - noone else is even close - and last I looked - California was not part of the South.
Florida - 169
Texas - a country unto itself - 145
Illinois had 48 - N.Carolina had 45
Arizona had 40 - Georgia had 58
New Jersey - 27 - had more than Virginia - 21
Pennsylvania - 42 - and New York - 32 - and Tennessee - 30 - all had more than Louisiana - 25
Ohio - 32 - S.Carolina 18
Thats the reality.
A sampling - by HOME state of player
California - 260 players - noone else is even close - and last I looked - California was not part of the South.
Florida - 169
Texas - a country unto itself - 145
Illinois had 48 - N.Carolina had 45
Arizona had 40 - Georgia had 58
New Jersey - 27 - had more than Virginia - 21
Pennsylvania - 42 - and New York - 32 - and Tennessee - 30 - all had more than Louisiana - 25
Ohio - 32 - S.Carolina 18
Thats the reality.
quote:Originally posted by BeenthereIL:
Once again, 90% of what I've said is undisputed.
You're upset about my saying that if you can play, you go South. That is just a fact of life. Little dose of reality setting in for some?
To whom it may concern: I'm sure that your son would have pitched just as well playing for ????? up North. I don't think so.
The players are in Florida; Georgia; Texas; Louisiana; Arizona; and, California...all South, Southeast and Southwest.
No big thing. Just deal with it.
There are only second rate players in the north, and no good player ever chooses a school outside the south?
There was a guy in Germany back in the 30's and 40's who used rhetoric of the same vein, making wild claims about dilineation in society and never supporting it with fact but only hysterical opinion...maybe you've heard of Hitler?
You goofball. Go ahead say something else stupid now.
2007 Draft Picks
Some number combos
Georgia/Louisiana and Arizona - had 123
Illinois/Pennsylvania and Ohio - had 122
LOL - That is reality.
Some number combos
Georgia/Louisiana and Arizona - had 123
Illinois/Pennsylvania and Ohio - had 122
LOL - That is reality.
CP...
I don't have to prove anything to you.
Watch the professional game. Watch the major college game.
I don't have to prove anything to you.
Watch the professional game. Watch the major college game.
quote:Originally posted by BeenthereIL:
CP...
I don't have to prove anything to you.
Watch the professional game. Watch the major college game.
Ahhh, but you do! You opened up your mouth and made wild and unsubtantiated claims...now back them up with some facts....but I doubt you will because they don't support your stance.
Your post is offensive, don't hide behind "because I know", stand up and prove it.
In some ways it is a similar proposition to the D-1 to pro route - when in reality - the majority of MLB players have never set foot on a college campus of any kind.
Its in the numbers baby - and its in the game.
Its in the numbers baby - and its in the game.
I love the numbers.
Even more interesting is the correlation between population and the MLB draft.
Incredibly consistent - with few exceptions.
Basically - if you have more people - you have more draft picks.
No magic there.
Even more interesting is the correlation between population and the MLB draft.
Incredibly consistent - with few exceptions.
Basically - if you have more people - you have more draft picks.
No magic there.
CPL - I would have to disagree with you on one point.
I dont find anything offensive about Beenthere's belief about baseball in the South.
Its just his belief.
I will tell you this - when my son hits the ball against the left centerfield fence - he isnt thinking about what state he came from - he's just thinking about whether he should make a run for it and try to take third.
LOL
I dont find anything offensive about Beenthere's belief about baseball in the South.
Its just his belief.
I will tell you this - when my son hits the ball against the left centerfield fence - he isnt thinking about what state he came from - he's just thinking about whether he should make a run for it and try to take third.
LOL
wow i didnt realize asking about a college would create so much controversy.
as for beenthereIL, I have been looking to play ANYWHERE. i know the south is a goldmine for baseball, but i have always wanted to go to penn state...and last time i checked that was a D1 school
i dont care at all if the school i end up going to is in the south, north, or anywhere in between
as for beenthereIL, I have been looking to play ANYWHERE. i know the south is a goldmine for baseball, but i have always wanted to go to penn state...and last time i checked that was a D1 school
i dont care at all if the school i end up going to is in the south, north, or anywhere in between
shp - go where you think you have the best chance of enjoying yourself and getting a good education.
All the rest is BS.
All the rest is BS.
quote:I will tell you this - when my son hits the ball against the left centerfield fence - he isnt thinking about what state he came from - he's just thinking about whether he should make a run for it and try to take third.
I see that you are a relative newbie on this site. You asked an innocent enough question re: Penn State IN the appropriate forum....you did nothing to merit the sarcastic response you got. I hope this does not dissuade you from asking questions in the future. PM coming your way.
Re: Penn State specifically and the Big10. There is SUBSTANTIAL investment and interest being placed in the historically football dominated conference towards baseball by the Big10 schools. You can not argue that football has been king in this conference. But that does NOT equate to second-rate baseball in the Big10 anymore. If you take a look at the Big10 baseball programs, you will see a definite trend of facility upgrades along with a rash of relatively new coaching hires the past couple of years. In addition, the conference will be abandoning their 4-game weekend conference series for the more common 3-game series beginning next year (one of the drawbacks in the conference). With the new facilities, new coaches, 3-game weekend series, and the high academic-calibre of the Big10 universities....I have to believe it is an up and coming baseball conference from where you will see more post season participation (three teams made post-season last year). And during the conference season....Penn State won the weekend series against all three of those teams, but fell just short in the conference tourney in an extra inning game.
More to you in a PM regarding Penn State specifically.
quote:Originally posted by BeenthereIL:
If you can play, you go down South.
Its,
It states that players from the north can't play.
That to me is offensive and a slight on any player that makes a decision to attend a northern school. My son turned down offers from southern schools to attend a northern school. His statement claims that my son can't play...to me, that is offensive.
CPLZ...consider the source of the comment and it won't be so aggravating to you. It came from someone who had a son play for Mississippi State and another son who played for Princeton...which last time I checked was in the north AND not in a strong "baseball" conference. In addition, Beenthere's OWN profile states:
"Played pro ball in Braves organization years ago. Had son play for Ron Polk at Mississippi State ('91-'93) and then in the Mets organization after being drafted in the 8th round. Younger son, Ryan, a high school junior, is a better player than I was and a better player than Paul was...Plus...he's an outstanding student. Son, ****, is now a sophomore at Princeton ."
Interesting that the son who went to Princeton was (according to Beenthere) a better player than the one who played for Mississippi...so take Beenthere's comments re: "talent" and playing in the "south" for what their worth
As most of us know and readily admit...there are many different reasons and factors that go into choosing where to play college ball.."talent" will open doors for you, but there are many other factors that go into choosing WHICH door to walk thru! It's an individual choice, and only YOU know what the right fit in college will be for YOU.
"Played pro ball in Braves organization years ago. Had son play for Ron Polk at Mississippi State ('91-'93) and then in the Mets organization after being drafted in the 8th round. Younger son, Ryan, a high school junior, is a better player than I was and a better player than Paul was...Plus...he's an outstanding student. Son, ****, is now a sophomore at Princeton ."
Interesting that the son who went to Princeton was (according to Beenthere) a better player than the one who played for Mississippi...so take Beenthere's comments re: "talent" and playing in the "south" for what their worth
As most of us know and readily admit...there are many different reasons and factors that go into choosing where to play college ball.."talent" will open doors for you, but there are many other factors that go into choosing WHICH door to walk thru! It's an individual choice, and only YOU know what the right fit in college will be for YOU.
shppirate09,
Hi there!
Quite honestly your question didn't cause the controversy. What caused the controversy was a comment from BeenthereIL who said,
That unfortunately was an opinion of his, and IMHO an off colored one at that, especially in THIS forum. I personally think he should have known better.
Its no big thing, but I am dealing with it, and I'm calling him on it.
Dont much care for anyone slighting ANY hardworking college player, especially for what part of the country he lives in. Last time I checked this was America. ANY American college baseball player makes me proud.
shppirate09,
My son has asked about colleges from all areas of this great land on this site.
Please keep asking away.
Dont want you to get side tracked from your question which was an honest one.
Because you are relatively new to this site, I hope you can look around the offensive opinions and come to your own conclusions.
Something you will find on the HSBBW, is that most of us hold the integrity of any baseball player on this site with the highest regard.
Sure there are rivals, but hopefully it is a tactful rivalry.
Not many of us here will stand quietly when a player, or a region of players, is slighted.
Ahhhhh,..I like your spirit and your true baseball heart! THATS what I call a REAL baseball player.
Its all about the game.
Best of luck and keep asking away!
quote:wow i didnt realize asking about a college would create so much controversy.
Hi there!
Quite honestly your question didn't cause the controversy. What caused the controversy was a comment from BeenthereIL who said,
quote:If you can play, you go down South.
That unfortunately was an opinion of his, and IMHO an off colored one at that, especially in THIS forum. I personally think he should have known better.
Its no big thing, but I am dealing with it, and I'm calling him on it.
Dont much care for anyone slighting ANY hardworking college player, especially for what part of the country he lives in. Last time I checked this was America. ANY American college baseball player makes me proud.
shppirate09,
My son has asked about colleges from all areas of this great land on this site.
Please keep asking away.
Dont want you to get side tracked from your question which was an honest one.
Because you are relatively new to this site, I hope you can look around the offensive opinions and come to your own conclusions.
Something you will find on the HSBBW, is that most of us hold the integrity of any baseball player on this site with the highest regard.
Sure there are rivals, but hopefully it is a tactful rivalry.
Not many of us here will stand quietly when a player, or a region of players, is slighted.
quote:i dont care at all if the school i end up going to is in the south, north, or anywhere in between
Ahhhhh,..I like your spirit and your true baseball heart! THATS what I call a REAL baseball player.
Its all about the game.
Best of luck and keep asking away!
quote:Originally posted by BeenthereIL:
They are in the Big Ten for baseball...says it all.
Apparently they have a nice, new stadium.
Big dogs in the Big Ten are Ohio State; Minnesota; and, now, Michigan is making a splash.
Everyone else is an also-ran.
If you can play, you go down South.
That is just simply rude!
I personally know several top players who play in the north and turned down offers from teams in the south including Luvbb's son. Your perception is not the reality of the baseball world. Players make choices based on lots of reasons.
Again, that's just a rude post!
CPL,
I understand your's (and others) point of view.
I guess my skin has been hardened over the years. I have heard so much nonsense over the last 10 years that I really dont pay much mind to it anymore.
I think that - as far as relevant advice goes on this topic - the player should be focused on the game and on his goals - and not what the guys in the stands are saying about his school - his state - or anything else for that matter.
None of that "fan stuff" matters when you have to hit the ball - or catch it - or throw it. If you do that well - noone will be talking about your place of birth anymore LOL
I understand your's (and others) point of view.
I guess my skin has been hardened over the years. I have heard so much nonsense over the last 10 years that I really dont pay much mind to it anymore.
I think that - as far as relevant advice goes on this topic - the player should be focused on the game and on his goals - and not what the guys in the stands are saying about his school - his state - or anything else for that matter.
None of that "fan stuff" matters when you have to hit the ball - or catch it - or throw it. If you do that well - noone will be talking about your place of birth anymore LOL
quote:None of that "fan stuff" matters when you have to hit the ball - or catch it - or throw it. If you do that well - noone will be talking about your place of birth anymore LOL
Its....you are absolutely RIGHT about this.
Personally, I have been around this site long enough to recognize that Beenthere has a long history of being "abrasive" in expressing HIS opinions. For me, I consider the source of those comments and it TRULY doesn't aggravate me because I understand the hypocrisy of that particular comment coming from him.
HOWEVER, when new and young posters come into the college forum and ask questions that are greeted by such "out of whack" comments such as were given to Shppirate...I just hope they can seen thru the garbage without knowing the history of the particular poster. I would hate for a young player to scratch a potential college/university off his list...let alone scratch an entire REGION from consideration..because some poster who has no connection or knowledge to the university posts something ridiculous.
It's...you give good advice.
Luvbb,
Thanks.
I think that if that young man throws his hat into the baseball arena - he will be hearing alot of stuff in the future.
Some good and some bad. He will have to decide what to listen to and what to ignore.
If I had a nickel for every time some expert - sitting in the stands wolfing down a burger - said something bad about either of my sons - I would have had a whole lot of nickels. LOL
"You are too small" - "you are too slow" - "you dont have this tool" - "you dont have that tool". Blah, blah,blah.
There is only one way to make that go away - and that is to stay laser beam focused on your goals, ignore the peanut gallery and perform.
If you do - the silence becomes deafening. LOL
Thanks.
I think that if that young man throws his hat into the baseball arena - he will be hearing alot of stuff in the future.
Some good and some bad. He will have to decide what to listen to and what to ignore.
If I had a nickel for every time some expert - sitting in the stands wolfing down a burger - said something bad about either of my sons - I would have had a whole lot of nickels. LOL
"You are too small" - "you are too slow" - "you dont have this tool" - "you dont have that tool". Blah, blah,blah.
There is only one way to make that go away - and that is to stay laser beam focused on your goals, ignore the peanut gallery and perform.
If you do - the silence becomes deafening. LOL
quote:There is only one way to make that go away - and that is to stay laser beam focused on your goals, ignore the peanut gallery and perform.
If you do - the silence becomes deafening. LOL
Yep...I now know this to be 100% true..but it took more years than I would like to acknowledge to figure it out! LOL. I hope the young guys who come into this forum to ask questions are quicker learners than I was!
So perhaps we should THANK Beenthere for helping the young guys develop thicker skin more quickly?!?
Ahhhh - lets get back on the original subject -Penn State. They have a good team, could hit, great relief pitching, a good young Coach and a brand new facility.
And they also have one of our hometown recruits - Benny Heath!!!
Go Lions!!!
Go Lions!!!
I agree with iitg, you go where you can play and get an education, the rest is BS. You asked a simple question, you should have gotten a simple answer.
Some people just can't seem to come here and answer the question without starting some BS, so take it from the source. Because one has on their resume they played pro ball a LONG time ago, does not mean they are a pro regarding college programs, etc.
I don't know much about the program, but heard from son that the new facilities are terrific and used by the Pirates in the NYP league. I would assume the education is top notch and that is essentially what it is all about after the dust settles.
BT,
Regardless of where my pitcher played, that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the original question being asked.
And FYI as far as I am concerned, mine headed NORTH!
JMO.
Some people just can't seem to come here and answer the question without starting some BS, so take it from the source. Because one has on their resume they played pro ball a LONG time ago, does not mean they are a pro regarding college programs, etc.
I don't know much about the program, but heard from son that the new facilities are terrific and used by the Pirates in the NYP league. I would assume the education is top notch and that is essentially what it is all about after the dust settles.
BT,
Regardless of where my pitcher played, that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the original question being asked.
And FYI as far as I am concerned, mine headed NORTH!
JMO.
All of you are right. I am wrong.
The schools down South don't have better players or programs.
All of the better programs are up North....in your own little minds.
MOM...Happy to talk to you and compare knowledge about pro players any time. Watched high school and college games for 40 years. Apparently you haven't recovered from Clemson getting SMOKED by Mississippi State last spring. Ask South Carolina fans what they think of Clemson.
The schools down South don't have better players or programs.
All of the better programs are up North....in your own little minds.
MOM...Happy to talk to you and compare knowledge about pro players any time. Watched high school and college games for 40 years. Apparently you haven't recovered from Clemson getting SMOKED by Mississippi State last spring. Ask South Carolina fans what they think of Clemson.
BT,
Get over yourself.
You are a classless idiot.
Get over yourself.
You are a classless idiot.
Been,
I dont care about being right or wrong - I just care about watching the ball fly over the centerfield fence.
No Northeast - West - Southeast - South by Southeast or North. No Clemson - Illinois - Duke etc... babble.
Just the sound of the ball crashing through the windshield and the car alarm going off.
Thats the only sound that means anything to me.
And then - the silence.
LOL
I dont care about being right or wrong - I just care about watching the ball fly over the centerfield fence.
No Northeast - West - Southeast - South by Southeast or North. No Clemson - Illinois - Duke etc... babble.
Just the sound of the ball crashing through the windshield and the car alarm going off.
Thats the only sound that means anything to me.
And then - the silence.
LOL
Tiger...
And you are a female MOPE.
South Carolina before Clemson in just about everything!
And you are a female MOPE.
South Carolina before Clemson in just about everything!
