11-14 year olds. Am I the only one who thinks this is a bit overboard?
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I'll say it before Ken does...."FOLLOW THE $$$."
quote:Originally posted by Cobra21:
I'll say it before Ken does...."FOLLOW THE $$$."
Thank you.
What a shame. It's all about the $$$!
Have to keep the lights burning somehow.
PG, more than likely felt like they have to keep up, with Triple Crown.
PG is without a doubt the top rating affiliation and showcase provider in the country. That being said, their entry fees have gone up roughly 20% for next year.
IMHO - For what's it worth.... :
The PG team idea is not sound. If you could find all the best players per age groups in the country, get them all agree to play for one particular program. Then maybe you would have something. However, wiser heads usually prevail once travel and cost are considered. To me, it also seems to border on Analist/Client type privilages when it comes to player evaluations.
I do not recall a PG team winning a WWBA or BCS event in the past. I'm not sure if they play together year round or not. If so I'm sure they have won some other events, just none that I'm aware of.
Triple Crown, got the ball rolling for next year showcasing 14u in Omaha. Charge $1100 for a "4 game guarantee tournament" Non Showcase.
Then they want to charge every player $95 for measurments. Which consist of
60's, home to first, radar bull pen, radar of, catcher's pop.
Another $95 per PLAYER to play in one showcase game with a college coach at the helm for the game. Of coarse, you can get the package deal for $175.
Talk about Revenue!!!!
Somehow.............I hope talent overcomes all this.
PG, more than likely felt like they have to keep up, with Triple Crown.
PG is without a doubt the top rating affiliation and showcase provider in the country. That being said, their entry fees have gone up roughly 20% for next year.
IMHO - For what's it worth.... :
The PG team idea is not sound. If you could find all the best players per age groups in the country, get them all agree to play for one particular program. Then maybe you would have something. However, wiser heads usually prevail once travel and cost are considered. To me, it also seems to border on Analist/Client type privilages when it comes to player evaluations.I do not recall a PG team winning a WWBA or BCS event in the past. I'm not sure if they play together year round or not. If so I'm sure they have won some other events, just none that I'm aware of.
Triple Crown, got the ball rolling for next year showcasing 14u in Omaha. Charge $1100 for a "4 game guarantee tournament" Non Showcase.
Then they want to charge every player $95 for measurments. Which consist of
60's, home to first, radar bull pen, radar of, catcher's pop. Another $95 per PLAYER to play in one showcase game with a college coach at the helm for the game. Of coarse, you can get the package deal for $175.
Talk about Revenue!!!!
Somehow.............I hope talent overcomes all this.
PERFECT GAME TO LAUNCH YOUTH DIVISION
By Allan Simpson
Perfect Game USA is recognized as the industry leader in the showcasing and scouting of the nation’s top high school-age baseball talent. With the establishment of Perfect Game Youth, a new organization for top players aged 11-14, Perfect Game plans to establish a foothold in the youth baseball arena.
Perfect Game Youth (PGY) will launch immediately, with two National Invitation Showcase events scheduled for the Christmas holidays in Orlando, Fla., and Riverside, Calif. The events will be by invitation-only and extended to the top 200 prospects in each of the 11-, 12-, 13- and 14-year-old age groups. The 14-year group is limited to players of that age who not currently enrolled in high school.
From those introductory showcases, PG Youth will host events throughout the country on a year-round basis as it becomes actively involved in the development and promotion of the top prospects in each age group. It will focus on programs and events that emphasize instruction, skills testing, education (for both players and parents) and game competition at a national-caliber level.
PG Youth, however, won’t be limited to just the elite young players in the country. There will also be opportunities available for players of all skill levels, both at the recreation level and travel-ball level of competition, to participate in PG Youth Challenger events throughout the country. Through skills testing and related activities, players will be able to measure their ability against their own standards over the course of time, and also relative to other players of differing skills sets.
“Our primary mission is to identify and develop the top youth players in the country, to better prepare them for and expose them to the various levels of participation that lie ahead,” said PG Youth president Tim Dulin, who has been actively involved in the development and instruction of youth players since 1991. “We’ll provide them with the skills they’ll need to eventually participate in Perfect Game’s showcase events and tournaments, and also at the collegiate level and beyond. But we’ll also provide something of substance for young players of all abilities.”
Dulin is a former University of Memphis All-American and played seven years of professional baseball. Over the last 10 years, Dulin has built a reputation throughout the country as one of the leading developers of youth baseball complexes while being instrumental in the growth of travel baseball competition in all youth age groups. His elite Dulin’s Dodgers youth teams have won six national championships with 288 of his former players receiving college scholarships.
Joining Dulin in playing a major role in the development of Perfect Game Youth are Garth Iorg, a nine-year major league veteran with a lengthy coaching resume that includes being the third-base coach of the Milwaukee Brewers in the 2008 National League playoffs, and David West, a 10-year major league veteran.
Much of the PG Youth’s agenda will involve the interaction of youth players with current and former major league players. Most of the activities and events will take place on location at various baseball training sites and competition centers around the country, but players and parents will also be able to access pertinent information on a new website (www.perfectgameyouth.com) dedicated to PG Youth.
They will also have full access to a parallel site operated by Alabama-based Travel Ball Select, an online newsletter and website (www.travelballselect.com) that is geared towards players aged 9-14. Travel Ball Select has been providing national team rankings and identifying All-America players in the 9-14 age groups since 2002. PG Youth will work closely with Travel Ball Select in identifying the nation’s top youth-level prospects.
Perfect Game’s primary mission for almost two decades has been to scout and identify the top prospects of high school age, and to provide a forum—through both regional and national showcases, and national tournaments—for players to be exposed to scouts and college recruiters, while playing against the best competition possible.
“Perfect Game Youth will give youth players a better foundation as they move on to high school baseball and beyond, and it will give us a head start in identifying the top young players in the country.” said Perfect Game USA president Jerry Ford. “Young players will be given an excellent opportunity to get top-notch instruction from some of the best teachers in the game including Major League Stars like Abert Pujols and others. It will also provide young players a forum to measure their skills, while also getting a greater opportunity to play with and against the top players in the country in their age group. Perfect Game greatly supports PGYouth as it falls in line with our most important goal of promoting the game of baseball at all levels.”
The PG Youth’s own independent website is active, and has also been launched as a sub-site on the Perfect Game, PG Crosschecker and Travel Ball Select websites.
By Allan Simpson
Perfect Game USA is recognized as the industry leader in the showcasing and scouting of the nation’s top high school-age baseball talent. With the establishment of Perfect Game Youth, a new organization for top players aged 11-14, Perfect Game plans to establish a foothold in the youth baseball arena.
Perfect Game Youth (PGY) will launch immediately, with two National Invitation Showcase events scheduled for the Christmas holidays in Orlando, Fla., and Riverside, Calif. The events will be by invitation-only and extended to the top 200 prospects in each of the 11-, 12-, 13- and 14-year-old age groups. The 14-year group is limited to players of that age who not currently enrolled in high school.
From those introductory showcases, PG Youth will host events throughout the country on a year-round basis as it becomes actively involved in the development and promotion of the top prospects in each age group. It will focus on programs and events that emphasize instruction, skills testing, education (for both players and parents) and game competition at a national-caliber level.
PG Youth, however, won’t be limited to just the elite young players in the country. There will also be opportunities available for players of all skill levels, both at the recreation level and travel-ball level of competition, to participate in PG Youth Challenger events throughout the country. Through skills testing and related activities, players will be able to measure their ability against their own standards over the course of time, and also relative to other players of differing skills sets.
“Our primary mission is to identify and develop the top youth players in the country, to better prepare them for and expose them to the various levels of participation that lie ahead,” said PG Youth president Tim Dulin, who has been actively involved in the development and instruction of youth players since 1991. “We’ll provide them with the skills they’ll need to eventually participate in Perfect Game’s showcase events and tournaments, and also at the collegiate level and beyond. But we’ll also provide something of substance for young players of all abilities.”
Dulin is a former University of Memphis All-American and played seven years of professional baseball. Over the last 10 years, Dulin has built a reputation throughout the country as one of the leading developers of youth baseball complexes while being instrumental in the growth of travel baseball competition in all youth age groups. His elite Dulin’s Dodgers youth teams have won six national championships with 288 of his former players receiving college scholarships.
Joining Dulin in playing a major role in the development of Perfect Game Youth are Garth Iorg, a nine-year major league veteran with a lengthy coaching resume that includes being the third-base coach of the Milwaukee Brewers in the 2008 National League playoffs, and David West, a 10-year major league veteran.
Much of the PG Youth’s agenda will involve the interaction of youth players with current and former major league players. Most of the activities and events will take place on location at various baseball training sites and competition centers around the country, but players and parents will also be able to access pertinent information on a new website (www.perfectgameyouth.com) dedicated to PG Youth.
They will also have full access to a parallel site operated by Alabama-based Travel Ball Select, an online newsletter and website (www.travelballselect.com) that is geared towards players aged 9-14. Travel Ball Select has been providing national team rankings and identifying All-America players in the 9-14 age groups since 2002. PG Youth will work closely with Travel Ball Select in identifying the nation’s top youth-level prospects.
Perfect Game’s primary mission for almost two decades has been to scout and identify the top prospects of high school age, and to provide a forum—through both regional and national showcases, and national tournaments—for players to be exposed to scouts and college recruiters, while playing against the best competition possible.
“Perfect Game Youth will give youth players a better foundation as they move on to high school baseball and beyond, and it will give us a head start in identifying the top young players in the country.” said Perfect Game USA president Jerry Ford. “Young players will be given an excellent opportunity to get top-notch instruction from some of the best teachers in the game including Major League Stars like Abert Pujols and others. It will also provide young players a forum to measure their skills, while also getting a greater opportunity to play with and against the top players in the country in their age group. Perfect Game greatly supports PGYouth as it falls in line with our most important goal of promoting the game of baseball at all levels.”
The PG Youth’s own independent website is active, and has also been launched as a sub-site on the Perfect Game, PG Crosschecker and Travel Ball Select websites.
I may be in the minority...but I don't see it as a bad idea.
There are all sorts of organizations putting on youth tournaments.....I would rather my "youth" participate with a company that has a reputation like PG rather than an organization I know nothing about.
Also, it looks like it is for all levels of skill..
There are all sorts of organizations putting on youth tournaments.....I would rather my "youth" participate with a company that has a reputation like PG rather than an organization I know nothing about.
Also, it looks like it is for all levels of skill..
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PG Youth, however, won’t be limited to just the elite young players in the country. There will also be opportunities available for players of all skill levels,
quote:Originally posted by FCBarcelona:
11-14 year olds. Am I the only one who thinks this is a bit overboard?
Way overboard. Save your money.
cheapseats, I understand your opinion, as far as you being the father of a youth player. However, when does it stop, C-pitch, T-Ball, Birth. Maybe all quality players can be pre ranked before birth!
Two of the most important development tools are most often garnered during age 12 - 14. Head and Heart, the Skillset is equally important, however it changes daily, if not connected to the big two.
JMHO
Two of the most important development tools are most often garnered during age 12 - 14. Head and Heart, the Skillset is equally important, however it changes daily, if not connected to the big two.
JMHO
quote:Originally posted by Old School79:
cheapseats, I understand your opinion, as far as you being the father of a youth player. However, when does it stop, C-pitch, T-Ball, Birth. Maybe all quality players can be pre ranked before birth!
Two of the most important development tools are most often garnered during age 12 - 14. Head and Heart, the Skillset is equally important, however it changes daily, if not connected to the big two.
JMHO
OS... good post... One thing scouts can't factor in is the size of the kid's heart and his savvy...
There is a current thread on this topic in the Pre-HS forum in which Jerry Ford from PG is involved:
http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6206007535/m/9751073603/p/1
http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6206007535/m/9751073603/p/1
Retired GM - Thanks for pointing us to the thread where this is being discussed...some of us (me) don't get out of the Texas forum very often. 
In fairness to Perfect Game, basketball (hoop scoop I believe) has ranked kids from 5th or 6th grade up for some time now.
I just think the whole notion is ridiculous. I played with a guy who never picked up a baseball till eigth grade and ended up being drafted. Also, how will this effect the psyche of some these kids?? Being told you're an all star or not very good at 11 can be equally damaging in my opinion.
Kids today have to grow up too fast...They're always in competition to be the best or most talented at such a young age. Ok, I'm off my soap box now.
I just think the whole notion is ridiculous. I played with a guy who never picked up a baseball till eigth grade and ended up being drafted. Also, how will this effect the psyche of some these kids?? Being told you're an all star or not very good at 11 can be equally damaging in my opinion.
Kids today have to grow up too fast...They're always in competition to be the best or most talented at such a young age. Ok, I'm off my soap box now.