Pickoff Moves Video??

The book "The Move" by Mike Maack (spelling?) is awesome. I know you said video, and I am not sure if he produces a video with it yet, but the book explains the move clearly and provides drills to reinforce the basic moves.

Awesome - thanks...

Just a followup - the book arrived earlier this week and I highly recommend it...

It is written for Left Handed pitchers throwing to first - or righties throwing to third.

Contains numerous pictures as well as drills to teach the player how to make a proper move to first. Pictures make it look extremely deceptive - looking forward to seeing how it works for real...

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Originally posted by Ryno23:
The book "The Move" by Mike Maack (spelling?) is awesome. I know you said video, and I am not sure if he produces a video with it yet, but the book explains the move clearly and provides drills to reinforce the basic moves.

I actually learned my move through Mike Maack. In fact he has used the video of me when he has done a presentation on The Move. If you would like me post a video of it let me know.

Yes. Please post it.

I'm with info, please post it.

same here would love to see that video.

Yes, my son is a 15 yr old lefty and your video would be a great tool for him.

Sherman

Love to see the video... my son is also a 15YO lefty and while he is working on the move, seeing video would be a useful input...

I coached a kid 2 years ago as a Senior in McKinney, TX that learned his move from Mike. He had the best move I had ever seen and still to this day, have not seen one better. There was no way to steal off of him. The book is supposed to be phenomenal, but I haven't read it, so I can't guarantee. I can only say that when my lefty was on the mound, the ground game was done.

He actually picked 3 kids off that summer while they were taking their secondary and they were tagged out while looking at home plate for the pitch.

Video.

Sorry about the quality, I'm not really a guru on converting and editing movies.

Anyways, this is my move after 4 sessions with Maack back in December. It's the most recent video I have.

Thanks for posting this - much appreciated...

It is hard to see but it appears to be a balk. The lift leg has to go at a 45degree angle from the rubber. Again I am having a hard time judging the angle but it appears to be a balk.
Your stride leg appears to be at too great an angle closer to 75degrees.

I looked at it in full mode and you are definitely balking. Your foot plant on PO is only about 15 inches away from your plant going to the plate. When you lft leg is at full lift your hips should rotate slightly to allow you drop foot to go directly towards 1st. 45 degrees othyerwise it is a balk.

It's not a balk. I know very well the 45* rule, and so does Mike Maack (he videoed this). I'm stepping right inside the 45* line, which I mark on the ground before everytime I practice. Then I check the footprints afterwards to make sure it's a legal move.

What may be throwing you off is that my feet are staggered when I come set. My lift foot's heel is inline with the toes of my back foot. This is so more of my stride is going towards home, but still inside the 45* line.

Yes it could be the way you settup on the rubber that gives the illusion.

I think a real key to that move is the arm action. And the shoulders.

The knee doesn't cross the plane of the rubber which is necessary. You step to the 45 line. All very well done.

But, deception is further than that. It's in the arm and shoulders. In fact, I'm guessing you can't do this and throw hard to first base. Everything is committed to forward down the 45 line. Your weight is moving forward down the 45 line.

So you go further by actually committing the body to throw down the 45 line..........but you don't. So, not much left on the throw to first. But, you don't need it because the deception is so strong.

Curious. You have to trust umpires. And, my experience is most won't call this a balk even if it is. However, how often are you called for a balk even though you don't? Do you show the move to the umpire before you use it? Pre-inning...pregame? To get his ok? The reason I ask is that in a two man umpiring crew, they have absolutely no angle to make this call. And, most won't make the call if "they don't see it". So, another question. Do you use that fact to your advantage and ever balk intentionally, taking a chance to nail a threatening runner.

I find the angle of the video deceptive. When I look at it closely he appears to be lined up at a 45 angle to home plate so it looks like he is balking.Lead hip is pointed toward 1stb.
I think his knee should be closed a lot more at full lift to allow more power to be generated. I also felt he commited everything down the line. ie weight forward too soon rather than holding a balance position a little longer. Arm dosen't have any force behind it.

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Originally posted by BobbleheadDoll:
I find the angle of the video deceptive. When I look at it closely he appears to be lined up at a 45 angle to home plate so it looks like he is balking.Lead hip is pointed toward 1stb.
I think his knee should be closed a lot more at full lift to allow more power to be generated. I also felt he commited everything down the line. ie weight forward too soon rather than holding a balance position a little longer. Arm dosen't have any force behind it.

If you're saying that is a negative, I disagree. A runner taking one step and leaning to second base is in big trouble even with the soft throw. Especially if he's moved his eyes.

I will give you this.....I've seen runners just go as fast as they can to second base and beat the throw from first. The slow move by the pitcher would be a big part of this.

I have a feeling he picks off as many non-basestealers as basestealers. Kids who simply take their secondary too soon.