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well i guess 3 more players can get some money, i don't see it helping high school srs much!!
I am sure the coaches were glad to see the minimum percentage lowered to 25%, it's too bad they didn't do something to give the low percentage player or walk on a little more leeway when it comes to transfers.
I am curious if players are getting bombarded with emails now that the text ban is on? Does the NCAA not realize that most teenagers can get email on their phones as well? I thought it was funny that one coach we have been talking to was happy to get a brand new treo phone so he could do more email from his phone.
I am curious if players are getting bombarded with emails now that the text ban is on? Does the NCAA not realize that most teenagers can get email on their phones as well? I thought it was funny that one coach we have been talking to was happy to get a brand new treo phone so he could do more email from his phone.
I flunked out of Lawyer school...
In the new rules, what does "The Board decided to lower the percentage of required aid to individual players to 25 percent and to allow all countable aid to be included in the calculation toward the minimum, not just athletics aid" mean?
In the new rules, what does "The Board decided to lower the percentage of required aid to individual players to 25 percent and to allow all countable aid to be included in the calculation toward the minimum, not just athletics aid" mean?
Apparently, the initial changes enacted a few months ago allowed only monies from the school's athletic scholarship funds (the equivalent of up to a maximum of 11.7 scholarships) to count toward what was then a 33% minimum scholarship for each player. Now, the minimum scholarship amount has been reduced to 25%, and schools can combine monies, using both athletic and academic scholarship funds to give at least a 25% scholarship to players. Apparently, many northern schools have not fully funded their 11.7 scholarships; thus, they are probably relieved that they can use academic monies to help reach the 25% minimum.
The winners? Good students and pitchers, as even more of them will be needed than before because of the compressed playing schedule this coming year.
The losers? Most likely position players, especially those who garnered only books or 10-20% scholarships in the past. They will probably be asked to walk on, and I wouldn't be surprised if many decide to go the D2 or JUCo route instead.
The winners? Good students and pitchers, as even more of them will be needed than before because of the compressed playing schedule this coming year.
The losers? Most likely position players, especially those who garnered only books or 10-20% scholarships in the past. They will probably be asked to walk on, and I wouldn't be surprised if many decide to go the D2 or JUCo route instead.
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VERY good question...
This...
...is either REALLY poorly written...
or...
Academic and need aid are now included in the 25% calculation...
...which has HUGE ramifications for parents...
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VERY good question...
This...
quote:"The Board decided to lower the percentage of required aid to individual players to 25 percent and to allow all countable aid to be included in the calculation toward the minimum, not just athletics aid"
...is either REALLY poorly written...
or...
Academic and need aid are now included in the 25% calculation...
...which has HUGE ramifications for parents...
44.
observer44, I hadn't thought about need-based aid.
Could you please elaborate on the perceived ramifications for players and parents?
Could you please elaborate on the perceived ramifications for players and parents?
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It is possible to construe this...
..."allow all countable aid to be INCLUDED in the calculation toward the minimum, not just athletics aid"
...to mean that ALL finaicial aid counts twards the 25% baseball. If the total of need and financial and and baseball aid is over 25% the baseball program is charged for a higher scholarship %.
Correct me if I am wrong...
but either I am reading it wrong....or it was REALLY poorly worded...or it is a major change...
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It is possible to construe this...
..."allow all countable aid to be INCLUDED in the calculation toward the minimum, not just athletics aid"
...to mean that ALL finaicial aid counts twards the 25% baseball. If the total of need and financial and and baseball aid is over 25% the baseball program is charged for a higher scholarship %.
Correct me if I am wrong...
but either I am reading it wrong....or it was REALLY poorly worded...or it is a major change...
44.
I'd think it would be only athletic + "blended academic aid" -quote:by o44: Academic and need aid are now included in the 25% calculation...
need based has NEVER been "counted aid"
dissagree - yes .. good student-athletes will be winnersquote:by if8: The winners? Good students and pitchers, as even more of them will be needed than before because of the compressed playing schedule this coming year ... The losers? Most likely position players, especially those who garnered only books or 10-20% scholarships in the past.
AND - winners will also be position players who were formerly less than 25% guys
BUT - LOSERS WILL BE PITCHERS .. their full ride/high % days are over and they'll NOW be forced to become "team players re: spreading the aid $$ around" ..
or else they will be on the mound w/NO DEFENSE behind them ..
what pitcher thinks that's a good deal??
jmo, but a good one
quote:Originally posted by Bee>:
BUT - losers will be pitchers .. their full ride/high % days are over and they'll be forced to be "team players re: spreading the aid $$" ..
or else they will be on the mound w/NO Defense behind them .. what pitcher thinks that's a good deal??
jmo, but a good one
That's the perception I had as well.
In my opinion, I say the losers are the position players. My son is a centerfielder and was offered $1000 and book money back on April 13 to a major D1 SEC school. Now they are asking him to walk on and be one of the 35. I'm going to ask the coach one more time if he can keep his pittance of a scholly since they added 3 more from 27 to 30 schollys. If not, we will walk away and pursue his football offers. Thank goodness we have this option, because what is happening to our glorius sport of college baseball has me stick to my stomach!
ASSUMPTION: The school is fully funded at 11.7, and the dollars equated are in-state COA.
QUESTION: With the combined monies aspect, does 11.7 truly remain 11.7 of baseball monies, or does the University benefit from countable academic and outside monies to minimize the athletic funds account?
EXAMPLE:
30 baseball grants at 25% equates to 7.5 leaving 4.2 grants available. Those grants and associated dollars could be allocated amongst the 30 players to sweeten the pot, I imagine.
Say the value of a grant is $20,000. If thats the case, my initial question is this. If the 30 players include, as an example, 5 highly successful academic kids who received academic grants of $20,000, how are these monies applied to countable aid.
The legislation appears to say these kids, considered countable don't delve into the 11.7. Are the source of the funds considered in the equation?
Where does the pie start being distributed??
Take the State of Georgia, with the HOPE credit. They(players) basically get 1/2 paid by that. If that equated to 50% of their COA, then does a school like GT have excess funds for every player that doesn't qualify for the HOPE ??
ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT:
30 in-state grants of $20,000 at 25% is a pool of $150,000.
The funding of that $150,000 for a fully-funded school comes from the baseball grant fund. If player number 1 with a 4.5 GPA with an academic grant of $ 15,000 is rostered, does his $15,000 reduce the fund to $135,000, or is this gravy money for the coaches to garner blue-chippers?
Please clarify.
QUESTION: With the combined monies aspect, does 11.7 truly remain 11.7 of baseball monies, or does the University benefit from countable academic and outside monies to minimize the athletic funds account?
EXAMPLE:
30 baseball grants at 25% equates to 7.5 leaving 4.2 grants available. Those grants and associated dollars could be allocated amongst the 30 players to sweeten the pot, I imagine.
Say the value of a grant is $20,000. If thats the case, my initial question is this. If the 30 players include, as an example, 5 highly successful academic kids who received academic grants of $20,000, how are these monies applied to countable aid.
The legislation appears to say these kids, considered countable don't delve into the 11.7. Are the source of the funds considered in the equation?
Where does the pie start being distributed??
Take the State of Georgia, with the HOPE credit. They(players) basically get 1/2 paid by that. If that equated to 50% of their COA, then does a school like GT have excess funds for every player that doesn't qualify for the HOPE ??
ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT:
30 in-state grants of $20,000 at 25% is a pool of $150,000.
The funding of that $150,000 for a fully-funded school comes from the baseball grant fund. If player number 1 with a 4.5 GPA with an academic grant of $ 15,000 is rostered, does his $15,000 reduce the fund to $135,000, or is this gravy money for the coaches to garner blue-chippers?
Please clarify.
Ahhhhhh,...me head is spinning!!!!! 
Yeah, that post gave me tired head.
This is my interpretation, though I may be wrong:
Before: Minimum scholarship allowed is 33% of 1 "fully-funded" scholarship (of the 11.7 allowed). For example, if one scholarship is equal to $12,000, the minimum scholarship allowed is $4,000.
After: Minimum scholarship allowed is 25% of 1 "fully-funded" sholarship. With the same basis ($12,000), the minimum scholarship is now $3,000. But, that $3000 may also include academic scholarships.
Case A: $3,000 athletic -- Baseball program saves $1,000 with updated rule
Case B: $2,000 athletic, $1,000 academic -- Baseball program saves $2,000.
I think this helps universities if they bring in kids that can qualify for academic scholarship, as it saves them money that they can spend on better talent.
This is my interpretation, though I may be wrong:
Before: Minimum scholarship allowed is 33% of 1 "fully-funded" scholarship (of the 11.7 allowed). For example, if one scholarship is equal to $12,000, the minimum scholarship allowed is $4,000.
After: Minimum scholarship allowed is 25% of 1 "fully-funded" sholarship. With the same basis ($12,000), the minimum scholarship is now $3,000. But, that $3000 may also include academic scholarships.
Case A: $3,000 athletic -- Baseball program saves $1,000 with updated rule
Case B: $2,000 athletic, $1,000 academic -- Baseball program saves $2,000.
I think this helps universities if they bring in kids that can qualify for academic scholarship, as it saves them money that they can spend on better talent.
tr0ss-
Good assessment.
I try and look at the glass half full.
IF I am a student with good grades, that becomes an "key" part of my resume'.
If I really want to go to a particular school, a coach can offer athletic $$$ that are definitely less than 25%, but with the academic $$$$ I as a player get over the 25% (as tr0ss explains).
I wouldn't be surprised at all if we will NOW start seeing/hearing more offers/commitments.....since coaches have their revised numbers to work with.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!
Good assessment.
I try and look at the glass half full.
IF I am a student with good grades, that becomes an "key" part of my resume'.
If I really want to go to a particular school, a coach can offer athletic $$$ that are definitely less than 25%, but with the academic $$$$ I as a player get over the 25% (as tr0ss explains).
I wouldn't be surprised at all if we will NOW start seeing/hearing more offers/commitments.....since coaches have their revised numbers to work with.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!
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Sorry but this is "head spinning" that we all will need to understand...
...unless we want to trust our sons fates to the momentary whims of the NCAA...
...oh, and by the way, make a mistake and it will now cost your son a year without baseball.
44
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Sorry but this is "head spinning" that we all will need to understand...
...unless we want to trust our sons fates to the momentary whims of the NCAA...
...oh, and by the way, make a mistake and it will now cost your son a year without baseball.
44.
I know I am probably simplifying, but a non-counter is a walk-on (no athletic $$$)
my heads not spinning (but the floor is 
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simply stated, each player must have at least 25% of the COA in "free money"
(merit + athletic) - that's alot better deal than parents had yesterday
it sounds good & gives coaches back the ability to be flexible w/their baseball $$
a huge edge will go to athletes who are good students and programs who recruit & land that kind of player
) - simply stated, each player must have at least 25% of the COA in "free money"
(merit + athletic) - that's alot better deal than parents had yesterday
it sounds good & gives coaches back the ability to be flexible w/their baseball $$
a huge edge will go to athletes who are good students and programs who recruit & land that kind of player
Basic beginner question: When you say 25% - its 25% of what?? Everything? or just tuition??
I have mixed feelings about it all. My son is a good student so that is good, but he's not a pitcher (he's a hitter) and probably would have been one of those 10 to 20% guys).
Let the games begin (again).
Thanks everyone for all the info and help!!
I have mixed feelings about it all. My son is a good student so that is good, but he's not a pitcher (he's a hitter) and probably would have been one of those 10 to 20% guys).
Let the games begin (again).
Thanks everyone for all the info and help!!
HitaHomer1, he can still be a 10-20% guy and add in an academic or other scholarship to meet the 25%.
Granted, things are a still bit more difficult under the new guidelines, but certainly an improvement over what was there before.
Granted, things are a still bit more difficult under the new guidelines, but certainly an improvement over what was there before.
Yes, I think he is definitely better off than he was 24 hours ago!
quote:by hh1: Basic beginner question: When you say 25% - its 25% of what?? Everything? or just tuition??
"COST OF ATTENDANCE (COA)
The United States Department of Education allows financial aid to cover certain educational expenses. Those educational costs are called the Cost of Attendance (COA). The COA is based on average costs for two semesters and includes allowances for tuition, fees, room, board, books and supplies, transportation and miscellaneous personal expenses."
very much agree! it seems like a thoughtful deal.quote:Yes, I think he is definitely better off than he was 24 hours ago!
even guys expecting high % can benefit IF their lower % team-mates are getting academic $$
hh1-
I am going to make your head spin even more!
First, one little tidbit. In the NCAA by-laws and/or DI manual, it does state that for the calculation of the COA, books are valued at $400. How about that for mindless trivia.
But here is where your head will spin......the COA for a private school is pretty straightforward. All the costs are the same for every student (assuming no aid of any kind, of course). But at state schools, it gets a bit trickier. To calculate the COA, you have to look not only at the in-state/out of state TUITION costs, BUT ALSO the MIX of in-state/out-of-state students at a school! Kind of like a weighted average. Believe you me, there are some pretty significant differences in both of those inputs (tuition, student mix).
At the end of the day, though, as a parent, once your son finds the right fit, the key will be what is it going to cost you (and possibly your son) to attend the school of choice........GOOD LUCK!
I am going to make your head spin even more!
First, one little tidbit. In the NCAA by-laws and/or DI manual, it does state that for the calculation of the COA, books are valued at $400. How about that for mindless trivia.
But here is where your head will spin......the COA for a private school is pretty straightforward. All the costs are the same for every student (assuming no aid of any kind, of course). But at state schools, it gets a bit trickier. To calculate the COA, you have to look not only at the in-state/out of state TUITION costs, BUT ALSO the MIX of in-state/out-of-state students at a school! Kind of like a weighted average. Believe you me, there are some pretty significant differences in both of those inputs (tuition, student mix).
At the end of the day, though, as a parent, once your son finds the right fit, the key will be what is it going to cost you (and possibly your son) to attend the school of choice........GOOD LUCK!
"The baseball legislation originally required individual financial aid packages for baseball student-athletes to include at least 33 percent athletics aid. The Board decided to lower the percentage of required aid to individual players to 25 percent and to allow all countable aid to be included in the calculation toward the minimum, not just athletics aid."
I think the addition to the legislation allowing all countable aid, which was never mentioned in the previous draft of proposed changes may change the process some.
I suppose the key to all of this is how one arrives at the "institutions financial aid maximum", section 15 in the NCAA bylaws.
What types of financial aid other than athletic monies are counted toward the 11.7 ? If that remains unaffected by these changes, and it appears it was, then the only real difference the change makes favors the student-athlete, which was the intent all along.
It appears many rosters historically had players who received no baseball monies since they received non-countable academic funds. Some players had combined packages of both.
With a countable roster of 30, and a total roster cap of 35, coaches should have 4.2 full grants to use toward their 30 counters in addition to the 25% already allocated.
What about the State-assisted schools, like those in Georgia and Louisiana ? I read that GT coach Danny Hall had plenty to say about how he didn't like anyone legislating how he slices his pie.
http://www.hsbaseballweb.com/stockpiling_4.htm
If his HOPE credit can now be used to satisfy the 25% rule, his entire in-state roster of players have been accounted for. Does this give that program basically a full 11.7 to shop around the USA and offer near full athletic grants while the rest of the coaches have 4.2 to go shopping with ?
Are coaches going to seek out players who also have the academic achievements to garner non-countable academic monies in an effort to satisfy the 25% rule a little bit more?
One thing that needs to be reiterated, regardless of old rules-new rules.........get good grades to increase your options.
FEEL FREE to correct anything that appears wrong.
Maybe someone will post the laundry list of baseball "institutional countable aid" facts. Once that basis is set, a better understanding of how a college coach may end up recruiting kids can be made.
http://www.hsbaseballweb.com/scholarship_blending.htm
I think the addition to the legislation allowing all countable aid, which was never mentioned in the previous draft of proposed changes may change the process some.
I suppose the key to all of this is how one arrives at the "institutions financial aid maximum", section 15 in the NCAA bylaws.
What types of financial aid other than athletic monies are counted toward the 11.7 ? If that remains unaffected by these changes, and it appears it was, then the only real difference the change makes favors the student-athlete, which was the intent all along.
It appears many rosters historically had players who received no baseball monies since they received non-countable academic funds. Some players had combined packages of both.
With a countable roster of 30, and a total roster cap of 35, coaches should have 4.2 full grants to use toward their 30 counters in addition to the 25% already allocated.
What about the State-assisted schools, like those in Georgia and Louisiana ? I read that GT coach Danny Hall had plenty to say about how he didn't like anyone legislating how he slices his pie.
http://www.hsbaseballweb.com/stockpiling_4.htm
If his HOPE credit can now be used to satisfy the 25% rule, his entire in-state roster of players have been accounted for. Does this give that program basically a full 11.7 to shop around the USA and offer near full athletic grants while the rest of the coaches have 4.2 to go shopping with ?
Are coaches going to seek out players who also have the academic achievements to garner non-countable academic monies in an effort to satisfy the 25% rule a little bit more?
One thing that needs to be reiterated, regardless of old rules-new rules.........get good grades to increase your options.
FEEL FREE to correct anything that appears wrong.
Maybe someone will post the laundry list of baseball "institutional countable aid" facts. Once that basis is set, a better understanding of how a college coach may end up recruiting kids can be made.
http://www.hsbaseballweb.com/scholarship_blending.htm
It sounds like a better program, however they still need to address parity and the easiest way to do this is through equality in scholarship distribution. I still believe that equal scholarship offers spread out over entire roster fosters team unity. And this would leave academic money for other university sports golf, softball etc
More head spinning and questions:
What if you are out-of-state but your A.C.T. score qualifies you for in-state tuition. Is the difference considered academic money???
Most schools (unless they have a pat formula) don't let you know until second semester if you got any of the academic scholarship money (deadlines to apply for the scholarships aren't even until 12/1 to 2/1), so does that leave coaches hanging until they know what academic money a kid is going to get. I think its going to get very confusing for the coaches and kids.
What if you are out-of-state but your A.C.T. score qualifies you for in-state tuition. Is the difference considered academic money???
Most schools (unless they have a pat formula) don't let you know until second semester if you got any of the academic scholarship money (deadlines to apply for the scholarships aren't even until 12/1 to 2/1), so does that leave coaches hanging until they know what academic money a kid is going to get. I think its going to get very confusing for the coaches and kids.
OMG ,I AM CONFUSED BEYOND BELIEF
Now that is funny right there, I don't care who you are.
How can a student loan be considered "Aid"
To me Aid is free money, either athletic, or academic. A loan is merely delayed tuituion etc..
with the interest to further burden
To me Aid is free money, either athletic, or academic. A loan is merely delayed tuituion etc..
with the interest to further burden
Thanks for the link.
I supposed it could be called "financial aid", but the piper still has to be paid. I suppose it is aid to the degree that it enables/aids a student to attend school.
So if loans are allowed to be included toward the 25%, I could see some weird things going on.
Say if COA is 10k, Coach may say to a kid, since you are planning on taking out loans (2500yr)to help finance your education, I can go ahead and offer you book money!!!
Can that be right???????
I supposed it could be called "financial aid", but the piper still has to be paid. I suppose it is aid to the degree that it enables/aids a student to attend school.
So if loans are allowed to be included toward the 25%, I could see some weird things going on.
Say if COA is 10k, Coach may say to a kid, since you are planning on taking out loans (2500yr)to help finance your education, I can go ahead and offer you book money!!!
Can that be right???????
NOquote:are loans and work study considered to be "countable" aid?
some confusion is caused by mixing similar terminology from the NCAA & the US Dept of Education guidelines
countable is merit & grants which do NOT have to be paid back
Good students are winners to a certain degree. Coaches will want them, as they always have, because they can get by with giving them very little athletic money.
HOWEVER, parents of good students are losers, at least compared to what they would have gotten under the original proposal. Under the original proposal good students were guaranteed a minimum of 1/3 PLUS their athletic money. Under the new rule they get a minimum of 1/4 MINUS their academic money.
Compared to the original 1/3 proposal, the new 1/4 rule actually PUNISHES good students.
Compared to the EXISTING rules, the new 1/4 rule is basically a wash or a very minimal improvement for good students.
HOWEVER, parents of good students are losers, at least compared to what they would have gotten under the original proposal. Under the original proposal good students were guaranteed a minimum of 1/3 PLUS their athletic money. Under the new rule they get a minimum of 1/4 MINUS their academic money.
Compared to the original 1/3 proposal, the new 1/4 rule actually PUNISHES good students.
Compared to the EXISTING rules, the new 1/4 rule is basically a wash or a very minimal improvement for good students.
quote:One thing that needs to be reiterated, regardless of old rules-new rules.........get good grades to increase your options.
MTH
You can look at it another way. And this was a big concern of mine since only one of my 3 boys pitch.
With the 33% rule, after schollys have been allocated to pitchers, your gonna need to be dam
good position player to garner a 33% scholly at a top school. In other words, a coach may say "I like you alot kid, I would really like to have you on my team, but as a frosh position player I can't give you 33% to ride the pine and wait for you to develop. If want to play for me I can invite you to walk on."
With the new rule that has changed considerably.
(I think))????
I am still trying to think through the ramifications of the new rule, and my little peanut is about ready fry.
You can look at it another way. And this was a big concern of mine since only one of my 3 boys pitch.
With the 33% rule, after schollys have been allocated to pitchers, your gonna need to be dam
good position player to garner a 33% scholly at a top school. In other words, a coach may say "I like you alot kid, I would really like to have you on my team, but as a frosh position player I can't give you 33% to ride the pine and wait for you to develop. If want to play for me I can invite you to walk on."
With the new rule that has changed considerably.
(I think))????
I am still trying to think through the ramifications of the new rule, and my little peanut is about ready fry.
I think ya took a wrong turn there - academic $$ and grants are NOT juggled to fit athletic %'squote:by mth: parents of good students are losers .. Under the original proposal good students were guaranteed a minimum of 1/3 PLUS their athletic money. Under the new rule they get a minimum of 1/4 MINUS their academic money.
if ya had the grades/act to get academic $$ + your 25% athletic aid could exceed COA
certain type schools seem to attract good students & they could have an advantage recruiting
What about the two sport athletes? There are some who are competing in baseball and another sport other than basketball or football.
If an athlete is getting athletic money from both the baseball team and another team, does this mean that his non-baseball scholarship money would be countable Aid? Would that lead the baseball coach to cut his funds accordingly?
Wouldn't this lead to a ripple affect across the other teams? My son was recruited by some schools for both baseball and swimming. I know that when my son went on official visits - even if he was invited by the swim coach, the visit counted against baseball. That is, if he was also being recruited by baseball at that school.
If your heads were spinning considering one sport, imagine trying to figure our how it will affect two.
If an athlete is getting athletic money from both the baseball team and another team, does this mean that his non-baseball scholarship money would be countable Aid? Would that lead the baseball coach to cut his funds accordingly?
Wouldn't this lead to a ripple affect across the other teams? My son was recruited by some schools for both baseball and swimming. I know that when my son went on official visits - even if he was invited by the swim coach, the visit counted against baseball. That is, if he was also being recruited by baseball at that school.
If your heads were spinning considering one sport, imagine trying to figure our how it will affect two.
you can't recieve athletic aid for more than 1 sport NCAA DI -
there is an ncaa priority table that basicly tells you which sport's aid you will receive & where the visits count
there is an ncaa priority table that basicly tells you which sport's aid you will receive & where the visits count
I don't doubt that I took MANY wrong turns. :-) But let's make sure we understand each other.
Hypothetical:
#1 Son has 1500 SAT and 4.7 GPA. Before the 1/3 proposal comes out he gets a purely athletic baseball offer of less than 25%. Due to academics he will get some amount of academic money. At this school, probably not over $2500. The academic money is not in any way related to his going there to play baseball.
Under the new proposal, he is guaranteed a minimum of 25%, which at this school is probably around $4000. However, if I understand the latest proposal correctly, the $2500 he will probably qualify for in academic achievement related scholarships is credited against the $4000. Meaning the baseball program is really contributing only $1500 (about what they offered originally).
Are you telling me this is incorrect?
if ya had the grades/act to get academic $$ + your 25% athletic aid could exceed COA
certain type schools seem to attract good students & they could have an advantage recruiting[/QUOTE]
Hypothetical:
#1 Son has 1500 SAT and 4.7 GPA. Before the 1/3 proposal comes out he gets a purely athletic baseball offer of less than 25%. Due to academics he will get some amount of academic money. At this school, probably not over $2500. The academic money is not in any way related to his going there to play baseball.
Under the new proposal, he is guaranteed a minimum of 25%, which at this school is probably around $4000. However, if I understand the latest proposal correctly, the $2500 he will probably qualify for in academic achievement related scholarships is credited against the $4000. Meaning the baseball program is really contributing only $1500 (about what they offered originally).
Are you telling me this is incorrect?
I think ya took a wrong turn there - academic $$ and grants are NOT juggled to fit athletic %'squote:Originally posted by Bee>:
if ya had the grades/act to get academic $$ + your 25% athletic aid could exceed COA
certain type schools seem to attract good students & they could have an advantage recruiting[/QUOTE]
ya, i believe in your example it'd be
4000 baseball offer + 2500 academic grant = 6500 total aid
4000 baseball offer + 2500 academic grant = 6500 total aid
Bee>
It may be rare, but you can obtain scholarship money from more than one D1 team at a school. Most D1 coaches consider their sport to difficult to allow competition in another sport. There are a handfull of athletes doing it.
You are right in that there is a chart that shows what team official visits must be counted against.
The question still stands. Will the new baseball rule affect my son's scholarships in both swimming and baseball?
It may be rare, but you can obtain scholarship money from more than one D1 team at a school. Most D1 coaches consider their sport to difficult to allow competition in another sport. There are a handfull of athletes doing it.
You are right in that there is a chart that shows what team official visits must be counted against.
The question still stands. Will the new baseball rule affect my son's scholarships in both swimming and baseball?
I like your interpretation a lot better than mine. :-) BUT, what does it mean when they say the Board voted to "allow all countable aid to be included in the calculation toward the minimum, not just athletics aid?"
quote:Originally posted by Bee>:
ya, i believe in your example it'd be
4000 baseball offer + 2500 academic grant = 6500 total aid