Ron Polk article

Got a link?

no I don't. Read it in a hard copy. Will search for 1 though.

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We argued this rule pretty extensively a month ago. I was assured by influential posters that...

1. We can trust the NCAA to have our son's best interests at heart, and...

2. That it is after all a competive environment. If you are not a star by your sophomore year YOU made a bad choice, you should be playing in another division and so the whole thing in reality is YOUR fault. For this reason is a fair and just rule.

I hope that helps. I certainly felt much better after hearing these things.


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I missed it O44. What is the rule?

Here it is:


Save College Baseball

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...and the result is that because they can, many programs are increasing the size of their recruiting classes and culling the non-freshmen heavily each year (baseball $). But thankfully we have been assured that it's all just an illusion (and Polk is an idiot). And even if such changes are happening, the new rule interpretation is both fair, well thought out by the NCAA, and in the best interest of the players/families to be told that they have been shifted from baseball $ to walk on status.

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ob44

Have you ever met Coach Polk?

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Originally posted by observer44:
many programs are increasing the size of their recruiting classes and culling the non-freshmen heavily each year (baseball $).

Many programs culling heavily. Sounds like an epidemic problem. It's funny we don't hear more about it.

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Originally posted by observer44: ....the new rule interpretation is both fair, well thought out by the NCAA, and in the best interest of the players/families to be told that they have been shifted from baseball $ to walk on status.
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Exactly as I said....all is well. The NCAA has it all taken care of. The are always trustworthy and and always have the best interests of the student athletes at heart. It is pretty clear that it is all working just fine and everybody is happy with the development. Sorry if I insinuated otherwise. And also sorry for the term "many". CA really doesn't count, fruits and nuts you know...


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TR...

Nope, never met coach Polk...but would love to...

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If you meet him you will readily realize that Coach Polk is far from an "idiot" as you term him

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If I'm not mistaken I think OB44 was just being sarcastic and was actually agreeing with Coach Polk. Coach Polk makes no secret of his dislike of many of the NCAA's rules...and I think that was OB44's point...

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Who me? Sarcastic? Nahhh. I'm buying right into the program...

now could you pass me that coolaid, please...

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If programs are not winnowing out their non-freshman ranks each year, how could anyone explain away North Carolina's 19 recruits that they intend to sign?

I don't think that many juniors will sign professionally nor do I think more than a couple of the high school kids on their list will sign professional contracts either.

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Coming right up 44!






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igball..you just have to trust the system. Besides as stated above...

...it is after all a competitive environment. If a player is not a star by his sophomore year He and his family made a bad choice, he should be playing in another division and so the whole thing in reality is his and his families fault. The reversion to walk on status, or the year sit out simply and understandable justifyable penalty for the mistake. For this reason it is a fair and just rule.

Don't worry, Be happy!

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Woodman...what a team!...the minute I typed that I KNEW you'd come through...

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44 you're right. Don't know what I was thinking. I was delusional enough to imagine that ethics and integrity played some role in college sports. Cue the Kool-Aide.

Few are naiive enough not to realize that over recruiting and its after affects have been staples of many top programs, however it seems that with the new rules it may now be affecting programs that have always had very good reputations.

igball i must come to the defense of UNC.

First of all they have 33 players on the roster right now. In spite of your comments several of the 19 2010 hs players will be drafted and several will probably sign. This has been the case the last few years. When you recruit on a national level you expect to lose players to the draft. There are several players on this years roster that will be draft elgible. And there will be at least 5 and probably more that will be drafted. And depending on the kind of Jr season some others have there very well could be more. There are two srs that will graduate and as with every program there will always be a couple who will decide to transfer for various reasons. Taking this into account as I am sure the coaching staff has it is very easy to see how this can play out. If you look at the 08 class and the 09 class there were several players that never made it to campus.

If you only recruit enough players to replace those you know your going to lose then you can end up in a mess real quick. And more importantly I have never heard of a single player that took care of business in the classroom and off the field and wanted to remain a part of this program not allowed to continue to be a part of this program. You could have made your point without nameing programs and it would have saved me alot of time thats for sure.

Over recruiting does happen and will continue to happen. But I think its unfair to make statements about a program without knowing all the facts and baseing those statements on pure numbers. There is alot more to this than just looking at numbers.

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"Cue the Kool-Aide."

Cue?

Actually "hoist" comes to mind...






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The simple truth is NC coaches have a sterling reputation and my point was not an attempt to diminish their program.

Nevertheless 19 is a staggering number of recruits to be digested, professional signings not withstanding.

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Well over 1/2 the roster by my count...

But at a program of that quality, players will get drafted and signed...could work...

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44 wasn't saying that Polk is an idiot. There's sarcasm and there's in your face blatant sarcasm. How many times does O44 have to repeat it?

iggy no problem at all. I can certainly see where people would come to that conclusion based on the number of players that have been signed. Now back to the topic.

Dez Bryant was just denied his appeal. What a shame imo. And I believe Coach Polk is working very hard to help college baseball and the guys that play the game. This rule and others are a reason many feel the way they do about the NCAA.

Rumor had it back in the day deans scholorships carried big school baseball teams over the 11.7 allowed.

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Originally posted by CADad:
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44 wasn't saying that Polk is an idiot. There's sarcasm and there's in your face blatant sarcasm. How many times does O44 have to repeat it?

Veiled negativity and clubhouse lawyer!

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Originally posted by bhick33:
Rumor had it back in the day deans scholorships carried big school baseball teams over the 11.7 allowed.

Since the 10% mandated reduction in scholarships from 13, there have been academic minimums that must be met in order to receive aid and have it not counted as athletic aid.