Safety Rules Will Be The Death Of Us All

Well, that kid does look like he's 7.

Gonna repeat two things I said earlier:

1: 

One of the good things about baseball is that it allows us to find common ground with many we disagree with completely on other issues.

2:

Over and out.

Poor example. Somalia is fragmented and run by warlords. Too much government is Venezuela, North Korea, etc. Too much government is the United States when they can raid a house on a bad tip, an assumption and no evidence. To much government is the United States. Where they can charge my house and rough me up and put me in the hospital when I offered no resistance. Yet put on the report I struggled. Yes, I struggled when they were beating me up. Just leave me alone, provide basic services and let me live in peace. I don't ever want my house raided by thirty federal agents at gunpoint and torn apart again for something I didn't do. When I asked who was going to clean up my house and fix all the damage the agent suggly said, "Looks like you better invite your friends over for a clean it, fix it party. Then he added to the report "I" was arrogant.

There was a situation a few years ago where they raided the wrong house. The guy they "subdued" died of a heart attack. The agents expressed their condolences to the family in that situation. How nice!

The late great Richard Daley:  "The police are not there to create disorder...they are there to preserve disorder" - An all time create malapropism.

Limited government does not equal no government and anarchy. The US managed to navigate Four score years, a couple of wars and grow to a continental power before the Civil War by having what we would consider today to be a nearly invisible Federal presence.

As we slowly accept less privacy and the coming of implanted computer chips for all kinds of "helpful" reasons I do think technology is ahead of the average citizen's comprehension of the data available to the government about your life.  Should the government choose to it can track your whereabouts and activity almost 24/7 just by following your telephone, internet and financial transactions.   If they want to bear down hard enough they can probably watch you doing it.

Before Eric Snowden I'd wager 10% or less of the people ever heard of the NSA and even now less than half could give a clear explanation of what that was all about.  If you want to know about Jay-Z and Beyoncé or Kim Kardhasian...80 or 90% can tell you.  In the end that might be the thing to be most worried about...Idiocracy.

But keeping track of pitch counts and getting good history on arm troubles.  They haven't got it.    Thank god they cleaned up steroids though ...huh!

I’m not quite sure of how keeping track of the number of pitches a pitcher throws and keeping track of his health history is much of a threat to the American way of life. But judging by the response of some, the group of folks out there who sees those who want nothing more than to protect kids who aren’t being protected, and to have a history that can be studied to see if there is a “better” way, as evil “revinoorers” or jackboot wearing government troops kicking down doors seems a tad reactive.

Personally, I’d love to see the data to finally have a way to figger out just what the truth really is, and I don’t care which side the truth stands behind. If it were proven that pitch counts are a waste of time, or that it wouldn’t help anyone to know what a person’s health history is, I’m all for stopping using them. But somehow I just can’t picture any scenario where reducing the number of pitches would prove to be unhealthy, or EVER going to the Dr. and not being asked about my medical history.

In Massachusetts the governor Deval (Obama Lite) Patrick wants every car to have a device that tracks where every car travels and when. The intent is to tax people for where they drive and at what times. But imagine how privacy could be violated with this kind of device. 

Federal presence was not nearly invisible. I suggest you look at how potent Federal power was in the first generation of the United States, and how comparatively totalitarian it was compared to today.

In 1800 the government spending per capita was $16.  When inflation is factored in that number adjusted to 2013 is $216.  Federal Spending this year will be roughly $11,000 per person.  The military was a fraction of the size of today on a per capita basis and there was virtually no federal policing.

The federal presence everywhere is significantly more immense now than 210 years ago.  FBI, ATF, IRS, OSHA, FDA, FTC, ICC on and on there are agency's impacting every aspect of life that were unthinkable then.  Even if someone thought of it ....the money would not be there to fund it.  DC was mud pit on the banks of the Potomac with a few nice buildings here and there. 

If you are talking about the Shay or Whiskey Rebellions ...well...those colonists were still a little rambunctious after tossing the Brits out and limits were necessary to avoid constant civil wars.  The one we really had was bad enough.

But since baseball hadn't been invented yet they couldn't fight about pitch counts.  But every now and then having a VP around willing to shoot someone can come in handy.  Wait we have that now too!

Oh where to start. Oh where to start. Being as I've likely been called one of those "safety nazis" I feel like if you don't like it, then leave. As a Certified Athletic Trainer, it is my job at all times to put the safety of the kids first. I take my job very seriously.

Today, I sat in an auditorium with all of the coaches at my school for nearly 4 hours. We did first aid and CPR training along with a 2 hour training on concussions. All of that mandated by the TAPPS organization which is our state association

Also, I can tell you there IS a national database for high school sports injuries. It's just a matter of finding the people to submit the data into it. I am one of those people. Now that I have started my new job, one of my responsibilities is to participate in a couple of different research studies. But one of the requirements for me is that I am a Certified Athletic Trainer. Way too few schools have an Athletic Trainer on staff... 

Yes I remember as a kid choosing up sides and playing baseball all day.Not an adult in sight. We said who was safe or out. If there was a problem we figured it out. We did not wear helmets. Nobody told us we could not use a certain bat( we used a wood bat we were lucky we had 1 and if it cracked we put a nail and some tape) Nobody counted pitches. Well I guess you get the idea. Believe it or not we all survived. 

Anyone posting here anecdotally is unlikely to have a horror story to tell because 1) they're alive to post, and 2) the absolute rates of accidental death in children have been relatively low for some time.  That said, the rates of accidental deaths among children have improved substantially in the last 30 years. I didn't try looking for breakdowns, but it's quite likely that a lot of this is improved car safety, especially for the teens (since that's the been the biggest accidental killer of teens for as long as they've been driving).

Drinking age changing probably a bigger factor.  I'd bet there are a lot less 16 -18 year old boys driving around hammered in 2014 compared to 1978 when I was one of them...but managed to live to tell.  Too many kids my age did not.

Originally Posted by Bulldog 19:…

Also, I can tell you there IS a national database for high school sports injuries. It's just a matter of finding the people to submit the data into it. I am one of those people. Now that I have started my new job, one of my responsibilities is to participate in a couple of different research studies. But one of the requirements for me is that I am a Certified Athletic Trainer. Way too few schools have an Athletic Trainer on staff... 

Kool. Who can submit injuries, and is there any criteria?

Yawn.

Do you remember when black people couldn't eat in the same restaurant as white people? Or when women couldn't vote?

"I did it a certain way and it worked fine for me, so why change it?"     Once again, yawn.

This thread has taught me a lot. 

And, for the record, I was born in 1990 and we played pickup baseball in the park too.

I think it may be best to close this thread. There isn't much valuable information in here.