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Can a team break up the scholarships into pieces in order to offer more players or do they only have 11.7 to offer whether its a 100 percent offer or a 25 percent offer? If a school has 11.7 scholarships to offer its baseball players and they have to offer at least 25 percent to a player. Can they divide the scholarships up meaning they could have 44 scholarships at 25 percent (A 25 percent scholarship to 4 players = a 1 full scholarship) or 11.7 scholarships at 25 percent? Trying to figure out how a baseball team and its scholarships work. thanks
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Sometimes you'll see some other terms used, and here is the same info as already given using different terminology.

Baseball is an equivalency sport, which means that scholarships can be split among players. (Football and basketball are examples of head-count sports, and they usually give only full scholarships.) D1 baseball gets 11.7 equivalencies to divide (starting next year) among a maximum of 27 players. One equivalency is, well, equivalent to the value of a full grant-in-aid, which is defined as room, board, tuition and fees, and books. A player may receive a total grant of up to the Cost of Attendance (COA), which is generally more than a full grant-in-aid, since it includes some other expenses. The COA is calculated and published each year by every college, according to Federal guidelines.

Roughly speaking, when we refer to a full ride, we mean a full grant-in-aid. A specific equation is used to calculate the equivalent value of an individual player's grant, and some parts of the grant may be exempt, and don't count in the equivalency. For example, if an incoming player has met an academic threshold set by the NCAA, the college may elect to give him exempt academic money, and he won't count against the 11.7 equivalency limit. Some grants awarded by other agencies, not part of the college, may also be exempt, if the grant doesn't consider athletic performance as a major criterion.
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Originally posted by ducbollea:
So, a team can split the 11.7 scholarships as much as they can in order to maximize the number of players that receive at least 25 percent. Thats cool, even though 11.7 is too small a number.


25% is minimum and can be combined with academic aid. So in reality he may get 10% BB money and 15% academic. Breaks the 11.7 down even further.

For the NCAA, the rule in awarding baseball money is minimum or nothing.
Also consider that the max number of scholarships for a program is 11.7. Many of the smaller, or second tier, DI's don't fully fund the 11.7. This is something you need to know as you go through the recruiting process. Don't be afraid to ask.

The new 25% rule should help distribute the talent somewhat. Now there won't be as much stockpiling of talent where schools gave kids just "book money", usually around $500.

The reality of baseball scholarships is there ain't no "full rides". If you hear that a kid got one it's probably a combination of athletic and academic monies. 25% to 35% is a good baseball scholarship. A kid that is offered over fifty percent is probably a pitcher, is probably a lefty, can probably throw 90+, and will probably get drafted out of high school!

The lesson to learn here, especially for younger players, is get it done in the classroom! That can pay off big when it comes to getting your education.
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Originally posted by TPM:
25% is minimum and can be combined with academic aid. So in reality he may get 10% BB money and 15% academic. Breaks the 11.7 down even further.

You sure are persistent! Smile

A player who consumes any part of the pool of 11.7 equivalencies must consume at least 0.25 of an equivalency. That is the consequence of:
"15.5.4.1 Minimum Equivalency Value. An institution shall provide each counter athletically related and other countable financial aid that is equal to or greater than 25 percent of an equivalency."

All of the aid which makes up the 25% must be countable. So the 11.7 can be broken no finer than 0.25.

ducbollea,
College generally don't try to maximize the number of players receiving 25% or more. Take a look at this thread, where you'll see different perspectives. You'll see that some knowledgeable posters suggest that pitchers get the lion's share of the money.
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Originally posted by ducbollea:
So, a team can split the 11.7 scholarships as much as they can in order to maximize the number of players that receive at least 25 percent. Thats cool, even though 11.7 is too small a number.


3FG,
Wanted the poster to know that the 25% is not necessarily all baseball money.

As far as being persistant, Mr. TPM might agree with you. Smile
just to chime in on this.. everyone is has been correct in what has been said. it is 11.7 minimum scholarship is 25%. that doesn't have to be baseball money. what it does have to be is countable aid. countable aid is any scholarship that you might receive that wasn't based on standards available to the general population of the school. that may be say a baptist scholarship, or maybe a high school alum has a scholarship endowed that he offers you. that's all countable money. what that means is that it won't come out of the schools' budget, but it will count against the 11.7 when academic scholarships are awarded from the institution based on standards set for everyone in the school, that money is not countable. you can receive that money on top of whatever you're getting for baseball and it doesn't affect the programs scholarship above what they awarded you.

Here's my "save you thousands" tip for the day. Make sure you know what you're being awarded academically. What some coaches do is they offer you a package lets say $15,000 on a $30,000 dollar education. What some of them try and do is lets say you get a $5000 academic scholarship. They will then decrease your baseball package to $10,000 to get you to the total that you agreed on when you signed instead of adding the $5,000 to your package and honoring what they offered you. Granted this doesn't happen at most programs but it does happen.

In my mind if a kid has earned academic and athletic money then he should receive it. I don't think that a program should benefit from a kid taking care of business in the classroom. I feel that the kid should benefit.
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Originally posted by dannymac_18:
when academic scholarships are awarded from the institution based on standards set for everyone in the school, that money is not countable.


That actually has nothing to do with academic aid being countable. Academic aid is excepted when any one of the following criteria are met (for D1)... the incoming student has a GPA over 3.5 in core classes, or is top 10% of thier class, or scores a cumulitive 105 ACT or SAT of 1200.
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That actually has nothing to do with academic aid being countable. Academic aid is excepted when any one of the following criteria are met (for D1)... the incoming student has a GPA over 3.5 in core classes, or is top 10% of thier class, or scores a cumulitive 105 ACT or SAT of 1200.


Kindly pull out your manual again and read the first sentence of that bylaw before you go calling someone out on something!

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