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PLAYWITHEFFORT....what I do with the information is exactly what I DID do:  I said OK and told him he didn't need to throw.  He took ground balls without throwing and then we played a game during which, he threw a tennis ball.  Now, he didn't have to play, it was just something all the kids decided to do.  I'm guessing he had to make 3 or 4 throws with the tennis ball in about 20 minutes.  You know what though? I would have been much more comfortable if he had warmed up for 10 minutes like everybody else so that he didn't go out and play a game with a "cold" arm, and then mess it up.........Also, I'm still trying to decide if my irritation was with the other coach, or with the young man and how he presented it to me.  If it was how he presented it to me, then I will possibly have a chance to explain to him how he should have approached it.    Don't know when that will happen as he hasn't shown up at any Open Gyms since...

Just curious — does this change as kids get older and grow into their bodies? We too had a no throw November and December throughout HS, but now son is in college and is continuing to throw. Not pitching, just throwing pretty regularly. Is it different now that he's physically more mature, or is it something we should be concerned about?

Iowamom23 posted:

Just curious — does this change as kids get older and grow into their bodies? We too had a no throw November and December throughout HS, but now son is in college and is continuing to throw. Not pitching, just throwing pretty regularly. Is it different now that he's physically more mature, or is it something we should be concerned about?

The Pitch Smart guidelines say no throwing at all for one month at ages 19-22.  IMO that’s as reliable and evidence-based as any source out there, but I don’t think any collegiate programs have agreed to use those guidelines (nor have MLB or MiLB, even though MLB sponsors Pitch Smart).  Here is the link:

 https://www.mlb.com/pitch-smar...uidelines/ages-19-22

Chico Escuela posted:
Iowamom23 posted:

Just curious — does this change as kids get older and grow into their bodies? We too had a no throw November and December throughout HS, but now son is in college and is continuing to throw. Not pitching, just throwing pretty regularly. Is it different now that he's physically more mature, or is it something we should be concerned about?

The Pitch Smart guidelines say no throwing at all for one month at ages 19-22.  IMO that’s as reliable and evidence-based as any source out there, but I don’t think any collegiate programs have agreed to use those guidelines (nor have MLB or MiLB, even though MLB sponsors Pitch Smart).  Here is the link:

 https://www.mlb.com/pitch-smar...uidelines/ages-19-22

... and this is obviously strong arm care advice in theory.  And many are able to do so.  But in practice, it is often much more difficult.  Once in college, the only breaks of that length are the Christmas break and summer.  A month is just long enough that it probably requires a bit of a ramping back up after rest.  The Christmas break is usually only about that long, so if a player shuts down for a month, he can find himself behind trying to ramp back up as the team jumps into the key Spring season of competition.  I think many will at least give their arms a 2-3 week rest during this time, just long enough for a little break but not so long that they will have to do a full ramp up program upon return.

Then, for summer, a large portion of college players are assigned to summer college ball, which starts immediately after the Spring season and runs right up to fall.  So, for those players, finding that full month break is again a challenge.  

Fortunately, there is at least an awareness at the college level to monitor P's and have them pull back in the summer if they threw significant innings in Spring (or have them go easy in fall if they had an active summer).  

Oops, sorry... we got off topic from OP a bit.

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