Science takes over in game coaching

Along those lines, a story in NY Times two days ago about use of IPads in dugout.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08...n-baseball.html?_r=0

Interesting concept. Certainly worth tracking to see if this creeps into MLB, MiLB and college baseball .

I know for a fact my oldest son's heart rate and blood pressure went up significantly when the HC coach came out to talk him.  Now with this technology, it could be possible to measure those metrics.  :-)

Ripken Fan posted:

Along those lines, a story in NY Times two days ago about use of IPads in dugout.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08...n-baseball.html?_r=0

The Giants might be better off going back to the binders.

RJM posted:

This isn't baseball. But I thought it might be of interest from a competitive standpoint. I'm watching the women's field hockey game. One of players is a neighborhood kid and childhood friend of my daughter.

Technology has been available for quite a while to do analysis and mechanics comparison. But women's field hockey has taken technology to another level.

The players are wearing heart monitors. They also have gps on them. An assistant on the sideline is tracking how far they've run and their heart rate to determine substitutions.

GIven this strategy I could see some kind of similar technology to determine pitcher fatigue rather than using pitch counts. It would be more accurate rather than arbitrary.

Working on it!

http://bleacherreport.com/arti...t-new-mlb-technology

Go44dad posted:

RJM posted:

This isn't baseball. But I thought it might be of interest from a competitive standpoint. I'm watching the women's field hockey game. One of players is a neighborhood kid and childhood friend of my daughter.

Technology has been available for quite a while to do analysis and mechanics comparison. But women's field hockey has taken technology to another level.

The players are wearing heart monitors. They also have gps on them. An assistant on the sideline is tracking how far they've run and their heart rate to determine substitutions.

GIven this strategy I could see some kind of similar technology to determine pitcher fatigue rather than using pitch counts. It would be more accurate rather than arbitrary.

Working on it!

http://bleacherreport.com/arti...t-new-mlb-technology

That article is more than 2 years old.....any other updates?  Did the sleeve work?

I haven't heard of it being used in this particular manner, but you're going to start seeing more of these systems out there. I talked with a rep this year from a company called Catapult. They sell a GPS tracking unit that the athlete wears and is monitored by a computer. This particular system was mostly for training I believe and not game use. I explored it briefly... until he sent me a quote. There's a reason it's used at the major college level and a very small number of high schools across the country...

CaCO3Girl posted:

Go44dad posted:

RJM posted:

This isn't baseball. But I thought it might be of interest from a competitive standpoint. I'm watching the women's field hockey game. One of players is a neighborhood kid and childhood friend of my daughter.

Technology has been available for quite a while to do analysis and mechanics comparison. But women's field hockey has taken technology to another level.

The players are wearing heart monitors. They also have gps on them. An assistant on the sideline is tracking how far they've run and their heart rate to determine substitutions.

GIven this strategy I could see some kind of similar technology to determine pitcher fatigue rather than using pitch counts. It would be more accurate rather than arbitrary.

Working on it!

http://bleacherreport.com/arti...t-new-mlb-technology

That article is more than 2 years old.....any other updates?  Did the sleeve work?

link to article was for mind expansion only.  read at your own risk.  

It is about time. MLB Teams spend millions on analytics, Players, facilities and other stuff and yet in the minor leagues they hire a former pro telling their hitters to get the foot down early and hit grounders to second (famous example because buxton who is a struggling top prospect said it).

That is slowly changing and many Teams already use more modern stuff but there are still Teams like that out there. That is just a huge hole of ineffectiveness, shouldn't really happen.

In pitching the analytics is a Little farther along the way than in hitting though, I think.

From May this year.  Nothing significant added from older article except that they were the first wearable technology device to gain MLB approval for in game use.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/fea...injury-epidemic.html

Dominik85 posted:

It is about time. MLB Teams spend millions on analytics, Players, facilities and other stuff and yet in the minor leagues they hire a former pro telling their hitters to get the foot down early and hit grounders to second (famous example because buxton who is a struggling top prospect said it).

That is slowly changing and many Teams already use more modern stuff but there are still Teams like that out there. That is just a huge hole of ineffectiveness, shouldn't really happen.

In pitching the analytics is a Little farther along the way than in hitting though, I think.

Rick Peterson is the furthest along with analysis. More are following his lead like Brian Bannister. There is also similar hitting analysis available.

But my original post was about going as far as tracking devices on the athletes bodies as they perform. In the case of the USA field hockey team it's tacking data that determines if their performance is falling off due to fatigue. It's tracking what is the optimal point for each athlete before their performance drops.

USA field hockey finished last in the 2012 Olympics. In four years of using this system they've risen to 5th in the world. They're 3-0 in pool play this week beating #2 and #3.

From what I've read (don't know the game well enough) it's not the talent is so much better. They're getting optimum performance from players and getting them out and rested before going back in.

I've noticed the kid from our neighborhood isn't on the field quite as much. They were relying on her too much and fatiguing her in the past.

Honestly, at the high school level as an AD I would love to have this for our Cross Country team.  I truly believe it would help identify potential health issues and the GPS would allow us to locate injured runners more quickly.  Right now we have to rely on other runners to let us know and / or our random spotters on the course working with walkie talkies.  But since CC is a non-revenue sport it would be next to impossible to implement this for just them.  This is where we could purchase a set and then use it for various sports to help justify the costs.  The only bad thing is we are a poor school and no way will we ever be able to justify getting something like this over required equipment.

The Astros have a guy called Jeff Albert who seems to be pretty modern in his approach too. His is not a hitting coach for the big league team but the minor league hitting coordinator though.

minor league instruction is probably more important anyway as MLB coaches talk more about strategy (what pitch is that pitcher throwing statistically most often in which count) than about mechanics.