MR SANDERS
Again I ask you why the Big east school is the only school not named. I just find it interesting
As for anyone on this site hiding behind me I doubt it very much--they have no need to
quote:You seem to hide behind TRhit...is there a middle name to that?
quote:As for anyone on this site hiding behind me I doubt it very much--they have no need to
TR, I think what Bob Sanders meant was that you hide behind your poster name and not your real name.
Although it has now been pointed out that your real name can be found in your profile or on your website.
I am still waiting for Sanders to answer the question I asked?
Talk about hiding!!!!
As for my name--it has been on the profile from day one when this site began---again I go back to what I say over and over--people need to do research before they post---the info is all there if they look
Talk about hiding!!!!
As for my name--it has been on the profile from day one when this site began---again I go back to what I say over and over--people need to do research before they post---the info is all there if they look
Most people don't know how or where to look for desired information when they are new on this site. They don't know how to do PM's or research information using the "Find" key, much less look at poster's profiles. That comes with experience, something new posters don't have.
Bobsanders,
You make it sound like you are in a unique situation and you have something to teach us - but to me it sounds like nothing more than badmouthing people by name - and whining.
Perhaps you might reflect on the fact that many people on this site have gone through "unfair" experiences. In some cases - far worse than what you describe.
So what?
Life is tough - you fight through it - you try to retain some dignity - and you dont whine.
That is my personal opinion.
You make it sound like you are in a unique situation and you have something to teach us - but to me it sounds like nothing more than badmouthing people by name - and whining.
Perhaps you might reflect on the fact that many people on this site have gone through "unfair" experiences. In some cases - far worse than what you describe.
So what?
Life is tough - you fight through it - you try to retain some dignity - and you dont whine.
That is my personal opinion.
At first I doubted that this was a genuine post, but after doing some searching, I am comfortably convinced that there is a real player in the middle of this situation.
So here are some of the pertinent facts:
The player graduated from a midwest high school with one season of travel ball experience after his junior year. He signed with Arkansas in July 2005, and was one of 18 recruits. He hoped to play first base and catch after the incumbent catcher left. He transferred to a junior college in Kansas and played extensively in 2006, including the three games that his JC played in the JC World Series. Statistically he was probably the 6th best hitter on the team. He played the latter part of the 2006 season in the Northwoods league. In 2007, he played a little less, but still 87% of the JC games, and statistically was probably the third best hitter on the team. Both years most of his play came as a catcher. He returned to the same Northwoods team for 2007.
He is now playing sparingly for one of the weaker teams in the Big East as a DH. Although he doesn't have a lot of at bats, he is clearly one of the better hitters on the team. Based on the substitution patterns, I'd guess that he is one of the less able base runners, and his defensive skills take back seat to his hitting.
Of course I don't know if he has been "screwed over", but I think the bare facts are easily explained by supposing this is a two tool player. If so, then I think everything holds together, and no malevolent intent would be needed.
I also think that he has had a fair amount of exposure between JC and Northwoods. My suggestion would be to keep his chin up, dismiss any sense of being a victim, and focus on being mentally ready to play when he gets the chance.
So here are some of the pertinent facts:
The player graduated from a midwest high school with one season of travel ball experience after his junior year. He signed with Arkansas in July 2005, and was one of 18 recruits. He hoped to play first base and catch after the incumbent catcher left. He transferred to a junior college in Kansas and played extensively in 2006, including the three games that his JC played in the JC World Series. Statistically he was probably the 6th best hitter on the team. He played the latter part of the 2006 season in the Northwoods league. In 2007, he played a little less, but still 87% of the JC games, and statistically was probably the third best hitter on the team. Both years most of his play came as a catcher. He returned to the same Northwoods team for 2007.
He is now playing sparingly for one of the weaker teams in the Big East as a DH. Although he doesn't have a lot of at bats, he is clearly one of the better hitters on the team. Based on the substitution patterns, I'd guess that he is one of the less able base runners, and his defensive skills take back seat to his hitting.
Of course I don't know if he has been "screwed over", but I think the bare facts are easily explained by supposing this is a two tool player. If so, then I think everything holds together, and no malevolent intent would be needed.
I also think that he has had a fair amount of exposure between JC and Northwoods. My suggestion would be to keep his chin up, dismiss any sense of being a victim, and focus on being mentally ready to play when he gets the chance.
Is it not possible that in cases like these it is the parents who are IN THEIR MIND have been screwed over????
I apologize if I have offended anyone in anyway with my opinions. Suggestions are dueley noted and appreciated. TRhit sounds as if he wants to call me out to the middle of the street and fight me...I can easily see what kind of personality you are and choose to avoid people like you in my life. So with that, I will thank you all for your pros and cons, it has given me alot to think aboutand to improve on as a parent of a student athlete. And I think it is time to end the conversation blog and move on....God Bless
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
Is it not possible that in cases like these it is the parents who are IN THEIR MIND have been screwed over????
That may be possible. So it is our job to help the parent to understand what really goes on may just be
what goes on and not a screw over.
Why is it my or your job?
Are you looking to save the baseball world?
Are you looking to save the baseball world?
Oh TR...aren't we all???
No I am looking to help people understand it ain't easy out there.
I thought that was the purpose of the HSBBW.
I thought that was the purpose of the HSBBW.
puma
save yourself first!!!!
save yourself first!!!!
Bob,
I have a question.
Your son came into the program this year, through a contact, not necessarily through being recruited.
Let's say the coach gave him position as catcher, what happens to the player who had been recruited and brought in to be the catcher last year?
Wouldn't that catcher have been screwed over?
I just wanted to try to see if we could put this in perspective, everyone sees things differently.
I have a question.
Your son came into the program this year, through a contact, not necessarily through being recruited.
Let's say the coach gave him position as catcher, what happens to the player who had been recruited and brought in to be the catcher last year?
Wouldn't that catcher have been screwed over?
I just wanted to try to see if we could put this in perspective, everyone sees things differently.
Bob,
The one thing you should have learned from your own experience, is that you have no business talking to your sons coach about baseball matters unless your son is in danger. It didn't turn out well last time. Coming on a message board and firing at people past and present in your sons baseball career is just going about the same behavior in a different manner. It probably won't work out well again.
Let your son do the baseball and handle baseball matters, it's not your job.
The one thing you should have learned from your own experience, is that you have no business talking to your sons coach about baseball matters unless your son is in danger. It didn't turn out well last time. Coming on a message board and firing at people past and present in your sons baseball career is just going about the same behavior in a different manner. It probably won't work out well again.
Let your son do the baseball and handle baseball matters, it's not your job.
quote:Originally posted by Bob Sanders:
I apologize if I have offended anyone in anyway with my opinions. Suggestions are dueley noted and appreciated. TRhit sounds as if he wants to call me out to the middle of the street and fight me...I can easily see what kind of personality you are and choose to avoid people like you in my life. So with that, I will thank you all for your pros and cons, it has given me alot to think aboutand to improve on as a parent of a student athlete. And I think it's a good time to end this conversation blog and move on ....God Bless
I think that's a good idea!
Good luck!!
They have probaly already read this thread anyway. Believe me many people here have no idea who reads this site.
Dang it. I need to check these threads earlier so I can get in on the fun. These "flash-in-the-pan" posters are getting too quick for me. 
Bob, key word from your last quote, your sons shoes. Exactly! If I may, you need to back off, Your son is out of your domain, release him. He will stand taller in his own shoes! If he is good enough and he wants it bad enough then let him obtain it. You sound like a great father and I know you want to fight his battles but you may have fought one too many.
OLDSLUGGER--He's doing just that--hadn't been in the line up for almost 2 weeks--went 2-5 4 RBI's and a 3 run HR last night. It's tough out there but he is determined to contribute to the teams success when ever he gets a chance. Patience is a virtue!
Bob
Nice to see he is making things happen
Nice to see he is making things happen
Bob Sanders,
Congratulations to your son. There are a lot more games left. Hope your son gets a lot of ABs in the second half of the season.
Congratulations to your son. There are a lot more games left. Hope your son gets a lot of ABs in the second half of the season.
Bob Sanders,
That is a very cool report! Your son is obviously working hard at the things he can control. A 3-run homerun is one pretty hard-to-ignore stat!
^ Look at those boys grinning as they cross home plate!
Best wishes to your son for a great remainder of the season!
Julie
That is a very cool report! Your son is obviously working hard at the things he can control. A 3-run homerun is one pretty hard-to-ignore stat!
^ Look at those boys grinning as they cross home plate!
Best wishes to your son for a great remainder of the season!
Julie