Grand Park is having a college summer league. First day of spring training started yesterday. When he signed up I had to wonder what level of competition/players they would have. Turns out quite a few players from Louisville, IU and Purdue. The various DI schools and some DII. It will be interesting to see if they can keep it going or the inevitable case or two of covid will shut it down.
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.....a glimmer of hope for baseball.... I am glad your son has a place to play!
(Now I am wondering if Grand Park is drivable as a place to vacation...hummmm....)
Son got invited to pitch for a town team this weekend. Had to turn it down because he's not ready to pitch to batters, but will be soon.
Arizona Collegiate Wood Bat League scheduled to start June 18 or 22. Son's team held first meeting and workout yesterday. There are no guarantees that it will happen, but he's optimistic! And I thought we were done with baseball in the blazing heat...;-)
Saw Joliet (IL) is also having a college league at Slammers stadium. Over 250 players registered from big D1 through NAIA. 23 players per team, pitchers can't throw more than 5 innings per week.
I don't think any of these will be shut down for covid because 1) this age group is shown to be almost 100% asymptomatic and 2) the virus doesn't transmit outdoors at any high rate 3) heat and sunlight kill it.
Only politics will shut these down. Don't let that happen
You can be asymptomatic, yet still transmit the disease. That is fact, not politics.
Correct you can. But the facts on that are it's not happening outdoors, in the heat, or from young people. Most recent studies are showing kids under 18 have about a 1/4 of viral load compared to adults for transmitting a virus. 18-25 year olds almost the same. Virtually zero risk for healthy kids 0-25 playing baseball outside with no ppe or restrictions. Same for coaches. Asymptomatic spread happening in closed quarter indoor spaces with unhealthy people. Assess the risk and let it fly.
This is a science experiment. We'll know in a month or two what happens. I hope that James G. is right. The more data, the better.
@James G posted:Asymptomatic spread happening in closed quarter indoor spaces with unhealthy people. Assess the risk and let it fly.
I don't disagree with your overall assessment, but asymptomatic spread happens in indoor spaces between healthy people, too. They then bring it to "unhealthy" and older people, some of whom get very sick and sometimes die.
And by unhealthy, I don't mean obviously sick. It can be people who are fit as a fiddle, but have immune system disorders, asthma, or diabetes.
And by older, I mean over 50, which is probably most of us on this board.
So, while it may not be life-threatening for (most of) the boys playing baseball, it could pose a serious health risk to people they love if they manage to bring it home.
@baseball mom2020 posted:Can you cite references for this? I'm frontline and have not seen this reported. I would like to read the article. Thanks
Here is an example that cites a yet to be reviewed study from China (as things are all pretty new).
https://thehill.com/policy/hea...it-comes-to-covid-19
It can happen outside, but is less likely, which should be obvious, since that is the case for most infectious diseases.
LuckyCat, I found this article very interesting looking at the death rate from different causes.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opin...u-driving-fatalities
@Viking0 posted:
LuckyCat, I found this article very interesting looking at the death rate from different causes.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opin...u-driving-fatalities
A variation on a theme. This article uses micromorts to conclude that an average-aged person (38) being infected with the virus is on a par with climbing Mount Everest in terms of risk of dying. If you're older, it's on a par with doing four bombing raids over WWII Germany.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/0...-in-perspective.html
This is not particularly comforting, however, given that I am more than a decade past 38 and would never dream of climbing Mt. Everest.
@James G posted:Saw Joliet (IL) is also having a college league at Slammers stadium. Over 250 players registered from big D1 through NAIA. 23 players per team, pitchers can't throw more than 5 innings per week.
I don't think any of these will be shut down for covid because 1) this age group is shown to be almost 100% asymptomatic and 2) the virus doesn't transmit outdoors at any high rate 3) heat and sunlight kill it.
Only politics will shut these down. Don't let that happen
What is the benefit of a college player joining a league this summer?
I would assume the benefit is to play baseball somehow opposed to not playing at all? Illinois is one of the most locked down states in the country so I'm betting all the IL boys at home are chomping at a chance to do something and work on their games.
@Viking0 posted:Here is an example that cites a yet to be reviewed study from China (as things are all pretty new).
https://thehill.com/policy/hea...it-comes-to-covid-19
This New England Journal of Medicine article by a treating physician is interesting, has a handy risk chart, and relies (I believe) on the same study from China.
@PABaseball posted:What is the benefit of a college player joining a league this summer?
Um, why play summer baseball even without coronavirus? Why play baseball at all?
@anotherparent posted:Um, why play summer baseball even without coronavirus? Why play baseball at all?
I meant to say pitcher, that is my mistake. Ramping up, shutting down, ramping up. Just doesn't seem like the best idea given the uncertainty about fall.
Mine has never really ramped down. He has continued his throwing during this whole time just like he was on campus. Has faced other guys and done full bullpens with pitch counts that mimicked his past games to recreate some of the atmosphere. Most of the pitchers at his school are supposed to be continuing their pitching. He will ramp it up a little after this week to be ready July 1. He has been told he is starting their first game.
@PABaseball posted:What is the benefit of a college player joining a league this summer?
I believe at GP it's to give scouts a chance to see some of these kids before the draft. That's one reason listed at least.
@PABaseball posted:What is the benefit of a college player joining a league this summer?
So is this a serious question?
Son has hit, thrown, and fielded 6/7 days a week since baseball season was halted. He was fortunate to find a summer league with no host family's involved, and fields within 60 miles of our home. Lucky break. His league plans to get going June 15ish...
@SomeBaseballDad posted:I believe at GP it's to give scouts a chance to see some of these kids before the draft. That's one reason listed at least.
When is that? The draft is in 2 weeks.
@baseballhs posted:When is that? The draft is in 2 weeks.
IDK, can't say I've paid attention to when the draft occurred, but I could swear they listed that as a perk. They have a two-week "spring training" happing right now. I guess if I were a scout interested in any of the kids from IU, Louisville, etc I know where I'd be.
I think that may have been listed before this all happened. I don’t think scouts can be out right now. I could be wrong, but they just okayed them seeing video that happened after March about 2 weeks ago. Still looks like a good opportunity for kids.
@SomeBaseballDad posted:So is this a serious question?
Corrected myself to say pitcher in an earlier response.
News coming out of Texas for fans in the stands for professional events.
Texas sports fans will be allowed to experience live sports in person in 2020. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott approved an order Thursday that would allow outdoor sports facilities to operate at 25 percent capacity this summer.
Abbott, 62, has already given the green light for sports to resume in Texas on May 31. In order to host fans, teams will have to apply and receive approval from the Texas Department of State Health Services, according to the Texas Tribune.
The order would allow the Dallas Cowboys, Houston Texans and Texas Rangers to host fans in 2020. All three teams play in stadiums with retractable roofs. Fans will not be allowed to attend sporting events at indoor stadiums.
Abbott has also expressed optimism that the college football season will take place as scheduled in Texas, and expects fans will be able to attend those games.
I believe Texas has more than a couple of weeks before they allow any youth games to be played, though. In Louisiana, over a third of the teams in many of the tournaments are from Texas, and this weekend will be the third weekend games have been played.
@PABaseball posted:Corrected myself to say pitcher in an earlier response.
My bad. I meant to quote the guy you quoted. The one asking why play baseball at all.
I'm just gonna sit here, in the front row.
@baseballhs posted:I think that may have been listed before this all happened. I don’t think scouts can be out right now. I could be wrong, but they just okayed them seeing video that happened after March about 2 weeks ago. Still looks like a good opportunity for kids.
I don't know such detail as to opportunity. I know that in a year like this, if my job were to find talent, I might hire on as maintenance at GP because not much else going on. Or I'd be super in their ear.
@Viking0 posted:I believe Texas has more than a couple of weeks before they allow any youth games to be played, though. In Louisiana, over a third of the teams in many of the tournaments are from Texas, and this weekend will be the third weekend games have been played.
Technically games are not supposed to start until June 15th in Texas. But there is one facility I know of who has already started hosting tournaments.
additionally here are the collegiate leagues and schedule of who is still playing and when.
follow for updates.
@Eokerholm posted:additionally here are the collegiate leagues and schedule of who is still playing and when.
follow for updates.
I think Coastal Plains canceled for summer
@baseball mom2020 posted:Can you cite references for this? I'm frontline and have not seen this reported. I would like to read the article. Thanks
One study from Europe. 3,700 patients.
Prospect League just canceled
Do not understand the thinking....deaths, hospitalizations all in decline.
@baseballhs posted:Do not understand the thinking....deaths, hospitalizations all in decline.
None of this makes sense anymore. Very hard for anyone to realistically argue these types of decisions do (from top of government mandates down to local decisions). Virus is not a hoax, but it's looking more and more each day that there are bigger things at play here.
There's no guarantee that anything will change by September, December, next April. Because we have let this happen without real opposition, there's no guarantee there will be sports even in 2021.
@James G posted:None of this makes sense anymore. Very hard for anyone to realistically argue these types of decisions do (from top of government mandates down to local decisions). Virus is not a hoax, but it's looking more and more each day that there are bigger things at play here.
There's no guarantee that anything will change by September, December, next April. Because we have let this happen without real opposition, there's no guarantee there will be sports even in 2021.
In my mind it was always going to be next to impossible for these summer leagues that use host families to go forward. You put however many kids in a bus, go play ball, then come back into their home.
I get that mindset from back in March. But now there isn't an excuse. We've got white house doctors telling us the virus dies outside in heat and sun, and it transmits at a miniscule rate outdoors. We've got the CDC telling us it really doesn't spread on surfaces. And various other medical studies showing the decreasing need to worry about it. So these boys coaches and umpires could be easily playing. They aren't going to get it playing outside. They aren't going to get it touching anything. They aren't going to be bringing it home to anybody. The host families would have a higher chance of dying from driving to the games, and sadly that isn't an exaggeration anymore
Coastal Plains is still on today. At least one team is not playing but today they are scheduled to start practicing June 18 and play July 1
@PitchingFan posted:Coastal Plains is still on today. At least one team is not playing but today they are scheduled to start practicing June 18 and play July 1
I thought they announced canceled? When did they reverse course? All good, and terrific if true.
