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baseballhs posted:

Is this just since The new director because I can’t say enough good things about Bicknell the last two years. The events were good and he went above and beyond for kids.

Showcases were a joke. Run poorly. UH location. Hurry up and pitch 10 and be done. They got the types of pitch wrong. My son felt rushed. He’s only there to pitch. 

Another showcase at A&M pitchers were supposed to show at 1:15, we got there early at 12 and they started pitchers at 12:20. They sent out a public tweet, not an email to the attendees, a tweet. I don’t check twitter when driving so we were thankful we were early. Others weren’t as lucky. 

They don’t use or update pitch speeds accurately even though I had video which included their radar and Shooter even tweeted the speeds in his post about my son at the PBR Tourney at UH. Emailed director video and shooter’s tweet and nothing. 

@22and25 posted an even worse review of PBR Texas.

I won’t go into other reasons publicly as I’m sure certain people are on here. Needless to say I’m, and many others, are not fans and won’t go to anything in Texas.

PBR NY and PA Director is awesome. Great guy to follow and I hear their events are much better. 

Maybe bickell had “the outs” this summer but it was bad. Really bad. 

Glad your situation and experience was better. 

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RJM posted:

The objective shouldn’t be to attempt to accumulate college baseball offers. The objective should be to obtain offers that are an educational, baseball, financial, social and cultural fit. 

A player should sit down with a parent(s) and define the potential college conference level he can compete. This isn’t about wishing. It’s about being realistic. Then from those conferences decide which schools fit. Then target those schools. Email coaches and find out where to get in front of them. Don’t do camps unless they’ve seen you and invite you to a legitimate prospect camp. 

Despite what most D1 players think going in (they’re going on to pro ball) most  will play four years of college ball and hit the real world. Education and becoming prepared for the real world needs to be an important part of the college decision making process.

Rogers3 - I'm a big believer in what RJM is saying here.   You and your son have to have a general idea of what he wants to do during his 4 years of college and 40+ years out of college.   You asked for a starting point, there it is.  Once you have a handle on that, then figure out how baseball & education is going to fit into your son's future plans. Create a list of schools that meet his requirements then cross-reference with available showcases, tournaments, camps.  Once your son begins attending these showcases, camps, etc...he will get a feel of where he fits and most importantly where he is wanted.   If you are like most people compromise between athletic/academic/financial factors will be part of this search, but don't get ahead of yourself by compromising before you start the process.   You want targeted showcases, tournaments, camps that meet your son's goals.    These baseball events are very expensive which is another reason you want to target these events that matter to you and your son.   EOKERHOLM listed a handful of showcases.    There are many more showcase & events that you will be able to identify once your son can clearly tell you what he wants for college baseball and what degree he wants to pursue.   Help him learn about different schools, conferences, NCAA Division levels and education options then he'll be better prepared to answer the question.  Small steps....this is a process that starts and ends with your son.

As always, JMO.

He has a list of schools he would like to attend for his degree as a Sports Physician. I didn't realize that he could email coaches to at least put his name out there, I was under the understanding they had to contact either the player or parent showing interest from either profiles or showcases or camps he had been to. I now know alot more then I did 3 days ago. All of which is VERY HELPFUL in me helping him find a good match. Because after all is said and done his Education comes first, and he knows that too. There is no point in going to a school he is miserable at it would show in every aspect of his performance. So I think between not knowing alot about how all this works , we came up with cast the net as far as he could and see what comes up and decide from there. Thank you all for the information! Im always open to new thoughts or little things that have been learned along journeys that have already been done.. 

Eokerholm posted:
baseballhs posted:

Is this just since The new director because I can’t say enough good things about Bicknell the last two years. The events were good and he went above and beyond for kids.

Showcases were a joke. Run poorly. UH location. Hurry up and pitch 10 and be done. They got the types of pitch wrong. My son felt rushed. He’s only there to pitch. 

Another showcase at A&M pitchers were supposed to show at 1:15, we got there early at 12 and they started pitchers at 12:20. They sent out a public tweet, not an email to the attendees, a tweet. I don’t check twitter when driving so we were thankful we were early. Others weren’t as lucky. 

They don’t use or update pitch speeds accurately even though I had video which included their radar and Shooter even tweeted the speeds in his post about my son at the PBR Tourney at UH. Emailed director video and shooter’s tweet and nothing. 

@22and25 posted an even worse review of PBR Texas.

I won’t go into other reasons publicly as I’m sure certain people are on here. Needless to say I’m, and many others, are not fans and won’t go to anything in Texas.

PBR NY and PA Director is awesome. Great guy to follow and I hear their events are much better. 

Maybe bickell had “the outs” this summer but it was bad. Really bad. 

Glad your situation and experience was better. 

Re: PBR NY, I agree my kids have done their events going on 3 years. Dan who ran NY took over PA I believe. He's still involved in NY though.

Rogers3 posted:

He has a list of schools he would like to attend for his degree as a Sports Physician. I didn't realize that he could email coaches to at least put his name out there, I was under the understanding they had to contact either the player or parent showing interest from either profiles or showcases or camps he had been to. I now know alot more then I did 3 days ago. All of which is VERY HELPFUL in me helping him find a good match. Because after all is said and done his Education comes first, and he knows that too. There is no point in going to a school he is miserable at it would show in every aspect of his performance. So I think between not knowing alot about how all this works , we came up with cast the net as far as he could and see what comes up and decide from there. Thank you all for the information! Im always open to new thoughts or little things that have been learned along journeys that have already been done.. 

At the D1 level pre-med is going to be difficult if not impossible. Be prepared for push back. My son was considering ATC and eventually PT. while the HC/RC on his visit were potentially ok with it on his recruiting visit, turned when talking to the head of the department it would almost be impossible. My son then researched salaries out of school for those and decided he didn't want to do them ;-)..

Agree with NYCDAD, Pre-Med is not going to be an option. Depending on the program they will limit or mandate the amount of classes and hours taken. So will their schedule. UVA mandated 15 hrs/semester and you must graduate in 4 years. GT is only 12 hrs/semester. Pre-Med in either scenario will be difficult, especially with the schedule and travel constraints. When you get to it, you should ask the coach on a visit how many days of school they miss a season.....Some schools are affected by travel more than others. You'll want to know.

My son (PO) sent videos, tweets, and his baseball profile to the top PG rated National Travel programs in the fall in order to get on a team that was going to WWBA in Ft Meyers for his grade (2021) and WWBA in Jupiter (2020 to play up).

Showcasing is fine to get you the PG grade and be seen by area scouts, if you're spreading the wealth and traveling to different region showcases. But like others have said. The BIG events are what is going to draw the most coaches/scouts.

College camp evals usually suck and are equivalent to a paper napkin review. We ponied up for the $100 pitching evaluation at Duke and that was really good and informative.

We enjoyed our local travel team, but they didn't get outside of Texas much and my son wanted to go East. So we had to go East. We did a few camps that helped open his eyes. But getting on East Cobb in the fall and his performance at both events is what really exploded his recruitment and he committed within 3 weeks of Jupiter after flying all over the country. 

Getting exposure on a top team will grease the skids for you a lot more than individual showcases, in my opinion. Most of these top tier travel coaches have colleges programs on speed dial and can go to bat for your son to help him get seen/recruited.

Make sure when you travel to these various showcases you get on campuses. That is really important for him to get the look and feel of the campus and city to make sure he still wants to go there.

You also need to check with schools to see what majors they have and don't have. My son was big on Vandy for some time. Went to their 5 day camp (AMAZING!!) but upon further research we found out that they don't have business or finance, so that dropped them down on his list. Though we LOVE LOVE LOVE Nashville and the area.

Other programs quickly dropped to the bottom as soon as my son stepped foot on campus or saw they city they were in. Others immediately rose to the top. All based on getting on campus.

Virtual tours help to in order to whittle down the list, but they're only going to show you their best stuff.....

That really helped shuffle and then solidify schools on my son's top 10+ target list.

Your situation may be different but for our son, his mom and I assured him that he was going to a good school to play baseball. Not a crappy school with a good baseball team.

Check out some sites and do your research

https://www.collegefactual.com/tools/college-combat/  is a great one to compare schools head to head on a lot of different factors. You can toggle them if they don't apply to get a more accurate comparison.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges  search for the school and see how they compare....you'll be shocked...

Other things like business school or engineering school rankings, etc. 

A lot has happened since your original post, but you have to have a plan and work the plan. This is a grind and you need to stay on top and ahead of it when you can.

Summer showcases are going to be packed this summer given no HS season and dead period. Get on a good national/regional travel team if you can.  Assuming we have summer travel season....

Do whatever you have to do to get to WWBA (July) and definitely the 2 in the Fall for the most/best exposure....

 

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