Southeastern District Games: April 30-May 5 (Week 7)

The Lakeland @ Indian River game on April 30 will be played at Harbor Park

teams qualified for the playoffs
western branch
nansemond river
hickory

Homestretch and WB gets the full test this week with NR and GB. If they beat NR they might put it away. Lose both and NR has inside track.

Still a little early for this but what if there are ties for 2md and 3rd when it's all over. Very good chance that teams split regular season games so will they play tie breakers for seeding in district?

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Originally posted by luv baseball:
Homestretch and WB gets the full test this week with NR and GB. If they beat NR they might put it away. Lose both and NR has inside track.

Still a little early for this but what if there are ties for 2md and 3rd when it's all over. Very good chance that teams split regular season games so will they play tie breakers for seeding in district?

There is also a scenario where three teams could be tied for 1st. I'm aware that in the event of a two-way tie for first that there is, in fact, a tiebreaker game to be played. Not sure how tiebreakers work down the standings. I have no clue how a tiebreaker would be determined in the event of a three-way tie. Any ideas out there?

I may have dreamed this, but it may be a coin flip in the event of a 3 way tie for first.

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There is also a scenario where three teams could be tied for 1st. I'm aware that in the event of a two-way tie for first that there is, in fact, a tiebreaker game to be played. Not sure how tiebreakers work down the standings. I have no clue how a tiebreaker would be determined in the event of a three-way tie. Any ideas out there?
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The beach district had a similar situation last year. Never did come to be but if there was a 3 way tie no team got the automatic bid. Not sure about the SED?

Shortest way to three tie is:

WB loses to NR & Hickory
NR loses to GB

It's reasonably possible.

This assumes all other games by this group are won.

could be wrong but kellam, f.c, and pa tied for first and they drew straws and kellam came out the winner for district.kellam did win district and played fc in championship game for beach and won that too, but fc was awarded the #2 seed.

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Originally posted by CARDS FAN:
could be wrong but kellam, f.c, and pa tied for first and they drew straws and kellam came out the winner for district.kellam did win district and played fc in championship game for beach and won that too, but fc was awarded the #2 seed.

PA ended up 3rd and Kellam and FC had a playoff game to decide reg season champ and #1 seed and then met again for the tourneyment championship. PA was eliminated in first round.

play right that is wrong, there was no playoff game between fc and kellam, kellam ended #1seed, fc was #2 seed, and pa was # 3 seed. they were all tied for first but kellam won the drawing. PA did lose to cox in first round and kellam and fc advanced to title game and kellam also won that game. Therefore fc got the #2 seed from the beach cause they played in championship game vs kellam which already had clinched #1 seed by winning district

Redbird, where are you? You can solve this issue!

elgato, trust me that is what went down at the beach last year

http://hsbaseballweb.com/eve/f...6002781/m/8277069306

CardsFan,

I admit that the grey cells are getting fuzzier but my recollection is that PA had a late season loss which eliminated the three-way tie scenario. That recollection is supported by the tourney posting at the link above. My recollection also is that someone had posted that if there was a Beach three-way tie, there would be no automatic bid to the Regionals for a regular season winner but that the top two teams from the Beach tournament would go. Also, remember that each District can set its own tiebreaker rules. Again, pulling on the grey cells, I vaguely remember reading that for the SED, there was a coin toss or drawing of some type but it was only to decide the order in which the three tied teams would have to play one another to get the automatic bid for the regular season. There was a lot of posting on this subject last year for both the Beach and Southeastern Districts.

there was a playoff game last year, Kellam won, it was on the Wed nite before the districts playoffs started.

Tight night in the Southeastern District.

Great Bridge just defeated King's Fork, 2-0.

Hickory and Grassfield are in the 8th inning. Grassfield had been leading most, if not all, of the game. Hickory tied it up in the top of the 7th and held them.

Western Branch is leading Oscar Smith 5-4 in the top of the 7th inning.

Final: Western Branch 6, Oscar Smith 4.

Hickory 4 Grassfield 2. 8 innings

Nansemond River 9R 8H 0E 6LOB
Deep Creek 0R 2H 2E 4LOB

A 2-0 game after 3 innings. Nansemond River pulled away adding 2 in the 4th, 2 in the 5th and 3 in the 7th.

Pitching
NR
TY Brown (W) 5IP 0R 2H 8K 2BB
Zach Rice 1IP 0R 0H 2K 0BB
Travis Johnson 1IP 0R 0H 1K 1BB

DC
Troy Bettinger (L) 6IP 6R (3ER) 6H 3K 2BB
Brad Mutter 0.1IP 3R 1H 0K 2BB
Matt Wilder 0.2IP 0R 1H 0K 0BB

Hitting
NR
Tyler Brown 2-2, RBI, run scored
Brandon Lowe 1-2, 2B, 2 RBI, run scored
Kyle Moore 204, 3B, 2 runs scored

DC
Seth Winslow 1-3
Jason Cole 1-3

Hickory 4 Grassfield 2 8innings final

Wonder if Great Bridge and Western Branch were looking ahead to Wednesday? Anybody know the pitching matchup or spread?

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Originally posted by El gato:
Wonder if Great Bridge and Western Branch were looking ahead to Wednesday? Anybody know the pitching matchup or spread?

Can't answer the first question, and can't guarantee the second. BUT, Troy Jones threw yesterday, which tells me that GB is going to throw the proverbial kitchen sink at WB tomorrow. That would be an extra-healthy dose of Connor Jones, with Cooper in relief, if needed.

I think Bennett throws Friday for WB against NR. That would leave Johnsonbaugh or Rutherford (not sure who threw yesterday) for GB tomorrow. All of the above is just an educated guess.

The next several days is going to be off the charts!

Let's not forget that as far as Great Bridge concerned, they're still in it! They believe they can still earn a tie for first, or a no. 2 seed. With all of the heavyweight games still to be played, someone has to lose.

Go Heels, Rutherford threw against Oscar Smith on Monday.

Need help from the experts to resolve a "dispute" behind the backstop.
How many teams qualify for the districts/regionals-I have heard everything from 3-6.

THANKS!

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Originally posted by SE_DAD:
Need help from the experts to resolve a "dispute" behind the backstop.
How many teams qualify for the districts/regionals-I have heard everything from 3-6.

THANKS!

I'm no expert, but I think I can handle this one! In the Southeastern District, six qualify for the District tournament. The top two from each District qualify for the Regional.

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Originally posted by SE_DAD:
Need help from the experts to resolve a "dispute" behind the backstop.
How many teams qualify for the districts/regionals-I have heard everything from 3-6.

THANKS!

Won't claim to be an expert, but if the number is the same as last year, and I have not heard of nor found any information that says otherwise, for the Southeastern District, it is 6 teams. Last year was the first year for a 6-team rather than 4-team playoff, at least for a long time. The number for the Eastern Regionals is 8, the regular season winner from each of the 4 districts in the Eastern Region and the tournament winner from each of the 4 districts. If there is a tie for the regular season winner, each district can have its own method for determining the automatic bid to the Eastern Region. (And FWIW, not all of the four AAA Regions have the same number of teams advance to their regional tournament.) I had found "noise," which I posted earlier, that there was some early proposal this year to increase the number of teams advancing to the Eastern Region but could not find any evidence that any proposal was acted upon. BTW, for the past couple of years, I have posted a "Path to the State Tournament" bracket which details all of the Regional tournaments and probably will do so again this year.

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Originally posted by WB Reporter:
Go Heels, Rutherford threw against Oscar Smith on Monday.

I figured as much, but wasn't sure. Thanks for the update!

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Originally posted by GoHeels:

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Originally posted by El gato:
Wonder if Great Bridge and Western Branch were looking ahead to Wednesday? Anybody know the pitching matchup or spread?

Can't answer the first question, and can't guarantee the second. BUT, Troy Jones threw yesterday, which tells me that GB is going to throw the proverbial kitchen sink at WB tomorrow. That would be an extra-healthy dose of Connor Jones, with Cooper in relief, if needed.

I think Bennett throws Friday for WB against NR. That would leave Johnsonbaugh or Rutherford (not sure who threw yesterday) for GB tomorrow. All of the above is just an educated guess.

The next several days is going to be off the charts!

Let's not forget that as far as Great Bridge concerned, they're still in it! They believe they can still earn a tie for first, or a no. 2 seed. With all of the heavyweight games still to be played, someone has to lose.

Problem for GB getting back into it is the NR and WB play so one of them has to win. It is hard to see both of them getting to 4 losses even if GB wins out.

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Originally posted by ofs10:
if its a 3 way tie for 1 place they still would play it off right?

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Originally posted by luv baseball:

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Originally posted by GoHeels:

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Originally posted by El gato:
Wonder if Great Bridge and Western Branch were looking ahead to Wednesday? Anybody know the pitching matchup or spread?

Can't answer the first question, and can't guarantee the second. BUT, Troy Jones threw yesterday, which tells me that GB is going to throw the proverbial kitchen sink at WB tomorrow. That would be an extra-healthy dose of Connor Jones, with Cooper in relief, if needed.

I think Bennett throws Friday for WB against NR. That would leave Johnsonbaugh or Rutherford (not sure who threw yesterday) for GB tomorrow. All of the above is just an educated guess.

The next several days is going to be off the charts!

Let's not forget that as far as Great Bridge concerned, they're still in it! They believe they can still earn a tie for first, or a no. 2 seed. With all of the heavyweight games still to be played, someone has to lose.

Problem for GB getting back into it is the NR and WB play so one of them has to win. It is hard to see both of them getting to 4 losses even if GB wins out.

I completly agree with you! GB does have the benefit of playing each of them though. Theoretically, if GB beat both, they would each have one more loss. If NR beats WB, both NR and WB have 3 losses (in this case study). WB beats Hickory, but loses at Indian River, and all four clubs would have four losses.

The likelihood that this plays out just so...not good at all, and I wouldn't bet a nickel on it. However, when you look at each matchup individually, it's not that far flung, and makes for interesting conversation.

Otherwise, I personally feel that one club is going to get the job done and win this thing outright.

Assuming everything goes to your scenario I think NR ends up with three losses. If NR beats WB and loses to GB they would have to lose to either KF or OS to get to 4 loses.

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Originally posted by luv baseball:
Assuming everything goes to your scenario I think NR ends up with three losses. If NR beats WB and loses to GB they would have to lose to either KF or OS to get to 4 loses.

Ahhh...you are correct. Anything is possible, but don't see that happening. Oh well, it was fun for a minute! A very exciting couple of weeks nonetheless!

Don't know all the possible combinations but the schedule certainly looks challenging. The top four teams have four games to play with the exception of Great Bridge which has five.

WB - GB, at NR, at IR and Hickory
NR - at KF, WB, at OS and at GB
Hickory - Lakeland, at DC, KF and at WB
GB - at WB, OS, at Lakeland, at Grassfield and NR

Would appear that Hickory has the easiest schedule, and WB the hardest. Gotta give the nod to NR especially if they win on Friday.

Great Bridge 3, Western Branch 0

Nansemond River 15 Kings Fork 0

Hickory 12, Lakeland 2

Grassfield 5, Oscar Smith 4

Nansemond River 15R 9H 0E 9LOB
Kings Fork 0R 1H 4E 2LOB

0-0 through 2 innings, NR sends 15 batters to the plate scoring 11 runs on 6 hits and 5 walks. Highlighted by a 2 run single by Zach Vann, a 2 run double by Brandon Savage, and a 3 run homerun by Brandon Lowe.....game over.

Pitching
NR
Colin O'Brien 3IP 0R 1H 0K 1BB
Kyle Moore 1IP 0R 0H 3K 1BB
Ryan O'Hara 1IP 0R 0H 2K 0BB

KF
#14 2.1IP 6R 3H 2K 3BB
#12 0.0IP 4R 1H 0K 3BB
#10 0.2IP 1R 2H 0K 0BB
#40 0.2IP 3R (1ER) 1H 0K 2BB
#7 1.1IP 1R (0ER) 2H 2K 1BB

Hitting
NR
Zach Vann 2-3, 2RBI
Brandon Lowe, 1-2, HR, 4RBI, 2 runs scored
Tucker Rhoads 1-2, 2RBI

KF
#7 1-1, 2B

GB and WB (based upon my scorekeeping)

GB 3R 8H
WB 0R 3H

Pitching Lines:
WB Johnsonbaugh 7IP 3R, 8H, 2BB, 4K 32 batters faced
GB Con.Jones 7IP 0R, 3H, 2BB, 4K 24 batters faced

Hitting Lines:
WB:
McPherson 1-2, BB
Johnsonbaugh 1-3
Z.Rutherford 1-3, 2B

GB:
C.Cody 2-4, 2 runs scored
A.Owens 4-4
Con.Jones 2-3 2B

GB scored one run in the first inning on a single by Cody, stolen base and an RBI single by Owens. They added 2 more in the third on a single by Cody, walk to Beard, wild pitch advancing both runners and an RBI single by Owens. The third run scored on a double play.

WB had an opportunity in the first inning when G.Brooks drew a walk, but was picked off first via a run down. The next 2 batters walked and singled but the inning was over on a double play.

WB got runners in scoring position in the 2nd on a 1 out double and in the 6th on a two out single and an error, but could not score. The rally in the 6th ended with the runners stealing and the lead runner being thrown out at third.

Pretty much sums it up. WB did not take advantage of Connor Jone's early difficulty in throwing strikes. After the first two innings, Jones settled in. At least one of the radar guns had him touching 91. Great Bridge kept the pressure on WB. In only 1 inning did GB go 3 up, 3 down. GB did strand eight runners, six in scoring position. So although GB did get on base, WB did a fairly good job in leaving them there (other than the 3 which scored. ) Agree with your hitting tally except have Owens as 3-4, reaching on an error for his third AB. WB #15 is Zach Rutherford. (Alex Hunt is #5.)

king's fork no 7 is gromkoski