So I just heard that the high A team will have what is called a piggyback rotation. Pitcher pitches every 4 days with limited pitch counts and innings, start then relieve every other outing.
They did this last year in Quad City, I was wondering if other teams do this.
Anyone know?
Eugene did it last year. Pitchers were paired, and alternated starting with relief with, of course, pitch counts.
ALLL my baaagss are paaaackccked.
I'm ready to go.........
Just can't say where, yet.
Watching closely, its.
My son played for Kane County last year against Lansing.
It's a fun league.
I only got to see a weekend of games.
I think I'll get to make a few more this year.
I'm ready to go.........
Just can't say where, yet.
quote:got assigned - movin' on up from short season to Lansing A
Watching closely, its.
My son played for Kane County last year against Lansing.
It's a fun league.
I only got to see a weekend of games.
I think I'll get to make a few more this year.
quote:Originally posted by Orlando:
Eugene did it last year. Pitchers were paired, and alternated starting with relief with, of course, pitch counts.
yes some teams in ss and low A will do that especially with an abundance of pitchers, but not sure if it was done in high A. Also helps in SP development. Instead of 5 you have 8, in a four day rotation.
I think it might be a good thing, because the starter doesn't have to go the distance (more than 5) each outing, especially in the first half of season. And if it's based on pitch count that's even better.
Ours found out yesterday that he is heading back to Mo-beel and as much as I would have loved to have him closer to home in Tucson, nevertheless he is fine with the move. He and wife will leave Sunday morning and should be there late Monday or mid-day Tuesday.
The front office decisions of these MLB clubs are so complicated and at times not very understandable ... son gets to finish his spring training by joining the major league guys for 2 exhibition games in Phoenix today and tomorrow, and he should get into one of them. (We may make a turn-around trip tomorrow if he doesn't get into today's game ...) So, he isn't ready for AAA but he has been with the major league sqaud at least 5 or 6 times this spring, and competed in two games (has an ERA of 0.00), and gets to drive to Mo-beel after the final two games. How does one make sense of these things?
Orlando ...
Please let me know if I should order season tickets for Elsinore ...
The front office decisions of these MLB clubs are so complicated and at times not very understandable ... son gets to finish his spring training by joining the major league guys for 2 exhibition games in Phoenix today and tomorrow, and he should get into one of them. (We may make a turn-around trip tomorrow if he doesn't get into today's game ...) So, he isn't ready for AAA but he has been with the major league sqaud at least 5 or 6 times this spring, and competed in two games (has an ERA of 0.00), and gets to drive to Mo-beel after the final two games. How does one make sense of these things?
Orlando ...
Please let me know if I should order season tickets for Elsinore ...
Most moves a very thought out.
It could be they are planning on making a change at a higher level, when they make the room he will be moving up.
It could be they are planning on making a change at a higher level, when they make the room he will be moving up.
njbb ...
Understand completely what you are saying ... but the front office still drives me crazy ... !
Understand completely what you are saying ... but the front office still drives me crazy ... !
FO,
As always - thanks and likewise!
Another season.
As someone who really has always loved this game (and as a Dad ) - I am thankful for each and every additional pitch and play.
I kid you not.
Thanks again FO!
As always - thanks and likewise!
Another season.
As someone who really has always loved this game (and as a Dad ) - I am thankful for each and every additional pitch and play.
I kid you not.
Thanks again FO!
quote:Originally posted by FutureBack.Mom:
njbb ...
Understand completely what you are saying ... but the front office still drives me crazy ... !
I was out in ST a few weeks ago and had the pleasure of going out to dinner with Son and some of his buddies who were at Minor lg camp. They were pretty much saying that the Minor lg rosters were set except for some tweeking. The guys working out with the AAA squads understand that with the roster moves that the Big Club has to make, next week they could be working out with the AA squad. Then its a trickle down effect for the rest of the squads but I would have to say that the minor lg player director knows were everybody is heading. Its also hard as Sons AAA squad carries and pretty sure all AAA squads do is what they call roster fillers. I was surprised last year when son was in AAA and his team was playing a squad where the average age was over 30.
I also want to say that first experience with the "piggyback" system was when son was playing in the MWL as a few of the clubs did it. I haven't seen it done anywhere else son has played. I can say that while son was in High A his club had strict pitch counts and early in the season was tough to make it to the 5th inning.
I would also like to add that in the past few days sons club have made some releases of players that were highly drafted. One player was drafted in 2003 early rds and million dollar bonus had a great year in 05 and was told he didn't fit into the clubs future. I also know of players who were at AAA last year and are being headed back to AA this year.
Baseball is a tough business as my Son and I have had this talk numerous times about the ups and the downs. You can't get caught up in what is going on around you with the player movements, you have to go out there and perform.
quote:Baseball is a tough business as my Son and I have had this talk numerous times about the ups and the downs.
"Three Surprising Cuts"
"X X X X X Let GO"
"continuing the difficult task of trimming their minor league ranks"
"Release Four More Minor Leaguers "
I need to do that again.....................
Just 'watched' scoreboard as Dbacks finished their ST with another exhibition game at Chase Field. Son was invited to go with the team yesterday and today, and got to finish the game in the 9th inning, giving up 1 hit. His ERA with the major league players is 0.00 after 3.1 innings. And tomorrow, early a.m., they head out the I-10 eastbound for Mobile. Travel mercies on their trek ... and for all our boys as they head out for the season.
quote:It's a fun time to be in A's camp and it's not just because of those aforementioned arms -- there are some guys with some pretty ridiculous power throughout the system as well. Many of them are spending their first time in the Athletics' organization.
Carlos Gonzalez, Cunningham and young first baseman Chris Carter are just three of the hitters who have been regularly flexing their muscles at Papago Park. How can the A's tell they've got more pop than they have had in past years? Simple accounting, really.
"We've used over 500 dozen baseballs for the first time," Lieppman said. "We're usually at about 350 dozen. Something good is happening in our organization.
"With our influx of strong hitters, it's been fun to watch. They're banging balls out of the park and losing a few. Our accounting department may not be thrilled we had to dip into the reserve, but it's worth the investment."
A lot of player movement in ST is done to accomodate the big leaguers who don't have to fight for a spot, this cuts down on innings and gives position players some rest.
It's also to give some an opportunity to play the game at a different level.
Plain and simple, baseball is business, you have to put all the stuff aside which includes player movement, player drama, organizational decisions and go about your business as told everyday to succeed.
It's also to give some an opportunity to play the game at a different level.
Plain and simple, baseball is business, you have to put all the stuff aside which includes player movement, player drama, organizational decisions and go about your business as told everyday to succeed.
Congrats to all who got their assignments. Mine is staying in extended ST. Hasn't got his walking papers yet. He said they cut around 16 players including a pitcher who was an all-star last season.
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Phillies Camp broke y'day. OfcrKID, LT. KB has been granted permission to play for the Lakewood Blueclaws (low A NJ). Please don't ask any details about how. TPTB are supposed to issue a statement soon.
BUT, he gets to play ball!
cadDAD
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Phillies Camp broke y'day. OfcrKID, LT. KB has been granted permission to play for the Lakewood Blueclaws (low A NJ). Please don't ask any details about how. TPTB are supposed to issue a statement soon.
BUT, he gets to play ball!
cadDAD
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Awesome, cadDAD!!!
Mine, alas, didn't get an assignment either. Extended ST for now.
They, too, had a number of surprising cuts, including a pitcher with some exceedingly tasty stuff, but a garbage attitude.
Mine was told, loudly and in front of others, by several of the pitching coaching staff that he had been (explitive deleted). Mine replied with "they were all catchers that had serious bonuses. I'm the NDFA". Coaches confirmed that was exactly how the decision had been made.
There are silver linings, however. Talking WS '06 with Jim Edmonds and catching Mark Pryor, for example!
All part of life's rich tapestry....
They, too, had a number of surprising cuts, including a pitcher with some exceedingly tasty stuff, but a garbage attitude.
Mine was told, loudly and in front of others, by several of the pitching coaching staff that he had been (explitive deleted). Mine replied with "they were all catchers that had serious bonuses. I'm the NDFA". Coaches confirmed that was exactly how the decision had been made.
There are silver linings, however. Talking WS '06 with Jim Edmonds and catching Mark Pryor, for example!
All part of life's rich tapestry....
Hometeam: Stockton Ports (Single A Oakland A's affiliate)
Favorite team (as of yesterday): LAKEWOOD BLUECLAWS (Single A Phillies affiliate/NJ)
Maybe you can join me for a game in Stockton..................
Favorite team (as of yesterday): LAKEWOOD BLUECLAWS (Single A Phillies affiliate/NJ)
Maybe you can join me for a game in Stockton..................
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FO...
Your kid coming to play here in Mudville? You bet I'll join you for a game. I'm buying the hotdogs.
cadDAD
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FO...
Your kid coming to play here in Mudville? You bet I'll join you for a game. I'm buying the hotdogs.
cadDAD
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FO, he is going to be playing in a nearly new(one year old) ball park that is a beauty in the downtown area.
The park is a beauty, the downtown....somewhat of a work in progress.
They built the park a bit like AT&T so homeruns, hit a long way, head into the Delta for splash effect.
It is a great park, not large, and they get pretty good local support.
He is about 70 or so miles from us(and about 30 or so degrees warmer come June).
If there is anything we can do to help, don't be bashful.
The park is a beauty, the downtown....somewhat of a work in progress.
They built the park a bit like AT&T so homeruns, hit a long way, head into the Delta for splash effect.
It is a great park, not large, and they get pretty good local support.
He is about 70 or so miles from us(and about 30 or so degrees warmer come June).
If there is anything we can do to help, don't be bashful.
FO ...
If y'all want to make a nice summer vacation in So Cal, pick a time when Stockton comes down to play Elsinore, Rancho Cucamonga, and/or Inland Empire. Since Stockton is in the north division, they don't play the southern teams very many times so I am not even sure it would work. But it would be a nice trip anyway.
If y'all want to make a nice summer vacation in So Cal, pick a time when Stockton comes down to play Elsinore, Rancho Cucamonga, and/or Inland Empire. Since Stockton is in the north division, they don't play the southern teams very many times so I am not even sure it would work. But it would be a nice trip anyway.
Mudville, it is.
He got there today.
First game (exhibition) against the Sacramento AAA team is tomorrow night. It will be an interesting game. The Ports are reportedly loaded with pitching. (Some of them I am familiar with)
I wanted to get out there for the two exhibitions games at home and away with Sacramento, but was not sure he would be there until yesterday.
Little uneasy as to the assignment. He is again ahead probably because of an injury and a suspension, so he could go back to Kane County, later, depending on how he hits of course.
They are in a hotel for three nights so they can hook up with a host family. He's thinking about getting an apartment. It is hard for him to feel "at home" with a host family.
And, their schedules are so weird.
But, the uncertainty of staying lends itself to a host family.
He'll work it out.
There is a radio internet stream, so I'll be listening in tomorrow night.
I would expect Morris to start tomorrow night.
The pictures that I've seen of the ball park are exciting, but I am familiar with the real estate story that is going on there.
The bus rides are going to be a little longer, but through some beautiful country.
I think he pushed too hard in ST, and, after traveling today seemed very tired on the phone.
I'll be glad when he gets on a normal routine, if you can call the baseball schedule normal.
It's pretty easy to get on Southwest here in Dallas.
Ya'lls recommended airport to get into Stockton?
I'll buy the tickets if ya'll will buy the hotdogs.
He got there today.
First game (exhibition) against the Sacramento AAA team is tomorrow night. It will be an interesting game. The Ports are reportedly loaded with pitching. (Some of them I am familiar with)
I wanted to get out there for the two exhibitions games at home and away with Sacramento, but was not sure he would be there until yesterday.
Little uneasy as to the assignment. He is again ahead probably because of an injury and a suspension, so he could go back to Kane County, later, depending on how he hits of course.
They are in a hotel for three nights so they can hook up with a host family. He's thinking about getting an apartment. It is hard for him to feel "at home" with a host family.
And, their schedules are so weird.
But, the uncertainty of staying lends itself to a host family.
He'll work it out.
There is a radio internet stream, so I'll be listening in tomorrow night.
quote:The early-season feel-good story is the return of catcher Jed Morris. Morris, who spent most of the 2005 season with the Ports, is making his way back through the A’s farm system after battling acute lymphocytic leukemia. He was diagnosed with the disease halfway through the 2006 season, and missed considerable time due to chemotherapy treatments
I would expect Morris to start tomorrow night.
The pictures that I've seen of the ball park are exciting, but I am familiar with the real estate story that is going on there.
The bus rides are going to be a little longer, but through some beautiful country.
I think he pushed too hard in ST, and, after traveling today seemed very tired on the phone.
I'll be glad when he gets on a normal routine, if you can call the baseball schedule normal.
It's pretty easy to get on Southwest here in Dallas.
Ya'lls recommended airport to get into Stockton?
I'll buy the tickets if ya'll will buy the hotdogs.
quote:Elsinore, Rancho Cucamonga, and/or Inland Empire.
Already mapped the teams out, FBM.
He played some AAU 13 and 14 teams from Rancho Cucamonga
Planning on coming to your area.
Gotta get the calendar posted to mine so I can see when I can come.
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I travel for a living, so trust me on this. Sacramento (SMF) is the closest and easiest (not always cheapest) to travel in and out of. Next choice would be Oakland... only about 15 minutes further, but more susceptible to traffic congestion.
Stockton can be a tricky town, safety wise, so maybe have him contact us about where/when/why. The mortgage story is certainly true, but doesn't effect too many not directly involved. Don't get me started on that discussion. I know most of the guys who sold those lousy mortgages, and it now creeps me out to see them making even more money moving the distressed inventory.
'the EH' is a host family for the Ports so can answer a lot of your questions... we're just not real aware of how that all works... but we would love to assist where we can.
I'm headed out to move OfcrKID out of his FL digs and drive his car to NJ... what a Dad... but will look forward to spending many an evening out at the Ballpark with you.
Stockton.... hot days... sometimes 115, but the old addage... it's a dry heat? Less than 30% humidity. Works here, where we get a wonderful 'Delta Breeze' in the evenings and the temp often drops to 55F.
cadDAD
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I travel for a living, so trust me on this. Sacramento (SMF) is the closest and easiest (not always cheapest) to travel in and out of. Next choice would be Oakland... only about 15 minutes further, but more susceptible to traffic congestion.
Stockton can be a tricky town, safety wise, so maybe have him contact us about where/when/why. The mortgage story is certainly true, but doesn't effect too many not directly involved. Don't get me started on that discussion. I know most of the guys who sold those lousy mortgages, and it now creeps me out to see them making even more money moving the distressed inventory.
'the EH' is a host family for the Ports so can answer a lot of your questions... we're just not real aware of how that all works... but we would love to assist where we can.
I'm headed out to move OfcrKID out of his FL digs and drive his car to NJ... what a Dad... but will look forward to spending many an evening out at the Ballpark with you.
Stockton.... hot days... sometimes 115, but the old addage... it's a dry heat? Less than 30% humidity. Works here, where we get a wonderful 'Delta Breeze' in the evenings and the temp often drops to 55F.
cadDAD
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FO,
You can fly Southwest into Sacramento, about 70 miles North, Oakland, about 70 miles Northwest, or San Jose, about 70 miles West.
Pretty much easy freeway access from each airport.
Depending on your time and day of arrival, the most traffic congestion will be from Oakland, but there may be the greatest number of flights there also. San Jose and Sacramento are a little smaller but still have plenty of available through both Las Vegas and Phoenix.
You can fly Southwest into Sacramento, about 70 miles North, Oakland, about 70 miles Northwest, or San Jose, about 70 miles West.
Pretty much easy freeway access from each airport.
Depending on your time and day of arrival, the most traffic congestion will be from Oakland, but there may be the greatest number of flights there also. San Jose and Sacramento are a little smaller but still have plenty of available through both Las Vegas and Phoenix.
quote:'the EH' is a host family for the Ports so can answer a lot of your questions... we're just not real aware of how that all works... but we would love to assist where we can.
I think they meet some of the host families today or tomorrow.
That'd be cool if he meets 'the EH'.
He's looking at sharing a two-bedroom apartment with a teammate.
I won't ever forget Matt's host 'mom' from last season. They know what to do. They just pull 'em and adopt 'em. She was out at ST, and I heard her encouraging Matt, but I didn't get to say hi.
Kinda like a covered dish meal at a Baptist church. It just all comes together.
You'll find that it is a convenient way for your son to settle in, and, once you see how they just get up and head across the country, you'll see why it is really necessary. (Not to mention the money issues)
They just live out of those duffel bags, buy a TV from Walmart and take it back at the end of the season, and play baseball.
When ever possible I fly Southwest Airlines. I'm always checking months ahead to get the "sale price" There is no charge to cancel or change your ticket(unless the price of the ticket has increased) If you paid full price for your ticket the money can be returned. if you paid discounted price you are given credit for ANYONE to use on a future flight. Credit is good for one year.
So far it works out well.... with all the player movement you need the flexibility.
I've also booked a flight and a few weeks later the price went down so I changed the flight and recieved credit.
So far it works out well.... with all the player movement you need the flexibility.
I've also booked a flight and a few weeks later the price went down so I changed the flight and recieved credit.
Host families are great. Son didn't have a host family his first 2 seasons or transportation he lived in motel, it was tough for a young player and expensive.
Well, I have been avoiding posting on this forum for fear of jinxing mine. Didn't work.
Got invited to Major league spring training as a non roster invitee, was his third major league invite in three years, first year pitched three innings, second year got sent down when minor leaguers started playing games. Year three, started in the rotation due to some injuries. As some healed, others went done. Pitched great. Made a lot of waves and drew real attention from manager and ML pitching coach. Last week was in contention for 5th spot. Had a bad outing in last big league start, but interesting enough slightly out pitched the NL 2006 Cy Young award winner, but both pitched poorly. Was called in and sent to Triple A the last day of camp, before the team went to play exhibitions. Devastated. Really thought he made it for a while. Last thing manager said to him as he shoke his hand was "be ready your're next."
After the initial disappointment, got fired up, and whatever was burning before turned into a full fledged conflagration. My advice was take 15 minutes feel sorry for yourself then get your a$$ back to work.
Have to admit I dreamed a little. Got mad a little. Felt some pain, like when your kid falls off his bike and tears up their knee. Not much you can do except throw a band aid on it and get them back on the bike.
Great experience all around made some great strides. Keep them pushing. A dream doesn't die until the dreamer kills it.
Got invited to Major league spring training as a non roster invitee, was his third major league invite in three years, first year pitched three innings, second year got sent down when minor leaguers started playing games. Year three, started in the rotation due to some injuries. As some healed, others went done. Pitched great. Made a lot of waves and drew real attention from manager and ML pitching coach. Last week was in contention for 5th spot. Had a bad outing in last big league start, but interesting enough slightly out pitched the NL 2006 Cy Young award winner, but both pitched poorly. Was called in and sent to Triple A the last day of camp, before the team went to play exhibitions. Devastated. Really thought he made it for a while. Last thing manager said to him as he shoke his hand was "be ready your're next."
After the initial disappointment, got fired up, and whatever was burning before turned into a full fledged conflagration. My advice was take 15 minutes feel sorry for yourself then get your a$$ back to work.
Have to admit I dreamed a little. Got mad a little. Felt some pain, like when your kid falls off his bike and tears up their knee. Not much you can do except throw a band aid on it and get them back on the bike.
Great experience all around made some great strides. Keep them pushing. A dream doesn't die until the dreamer kills it.
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DelDAD,
They keep telling us (all parents) that it will be like a roller coaster ride. It just seems a lot more like a bungy jump at times. I do like your logic and advice, though.
Blue skies & calm seas!
cadDAD
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DelDAD,
They keep telling us (all parents) that it will be like a roller coaster ride. It just seems a lot more like a bungy jump at times. I do like your logic and advice, though.
Blue skies & calm seas!
cadDAD
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Shoot, deldad, that's a nice run at it......
Be ready are really good words to hear.
I'd say congratulations!
Ditto on the bungy jump.................
Be ready are really good words to hear.
I'd say congratulations!
Ditto on the bungy jump.................
deldad,
I am grinning ear to ear just thinking of what it must be like to hear those words, "be ready, you're next".
What a hoot of an experience...the ups, the downs....so alive, soooooooo way cool.
I am grinning ear to ear just thinking of what it must be like to hear those words, "be ready, you're next".
What a hoot of an experience...the ups, the downs....so alive, soooooooo way cool.
FO,
Great news about Matt!
Deldad,
Your son has such a bright future in front of him, he's gonna make it real soon.
The best things in life are worth waiting for!
Great news about Matt!
Deldad,
Your son has such a bright future in front of him, he's gonna make it real soon.
The best things in life are worth waiting for!
Deldad,
I was reading every update about Nick I could find on MLB. The nice thing is there were more than a few.
In a sense, I can understand his deep disappointment. Heck, reading those articles and what Sciossia was saying, it seemed like he was the 4th, not the 5th guy.
The thing that impresses me most is how hard it is to get over the top, when they have a veteran on board. As they say, control only what you can and that is what he does on the field.
Pretty clear their won't be many more plane tickets to AAA for him.
I was reading every update about Nick I could find on MLB. The nice thing is there were more than a few.
In a sense, I can understand his deep disappointment. Heck, reading those articles and what Sciossia was saying, it seemed like he was the 4th, not the 5th guy.
The thing that impresses me most is how hard it is to get over the top, when they have a veteran on board. As they say, control only what you can and that is what he does on the field.
Pretty clear their won't be many more plane tickets to AAA for him.
deldad - I just wanted to thank you for sharing the ride and your thoughts.
We're all pulling awfully hard for Nick and its really refreshing to read you speaking so openly and frankly about it all.
Its only a matter of (short) time. I am tremendously thrilled for your whole family. Keep posting!
We're all pulling awfully hard for Nick and its really refreshing to read you speaking so openly and frankly about it all.
Its only a matter of (short) time. I am tremendously thrilled for your whole family. Keep posting!
Well,
I am off for opening milb night, a first for us!
Seems so strange being able to do that and spend lots of time this summer at the ball park and get to see our fav pitcher pitch!
Good luck everyone!
I am off for opening milb night, a first for us!
Seems so strange being able to do that and spend lots of time this summer at the ball park and get to see our fav pitcher pitch!
Good luck everyone!
Enjoy the game, TPM!
quote:Originally posted by TPM:
Well,
I am off for opening milb night, a first for us!
Seems so strange being able to do that and spend lots of time this summer at the ball park and get to see our fav pitcher pitch!
Good luck everyone!
Is DK on the bump tonight? Have fun!
Enjoy
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If you're interested in listening to your favorite MiLB team on the radio (Internet), try the following:
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/multimedia/audio.jsp
In the bottom of the first, OfcrKID drilled a linedrive to RF for the team's first hit of the season.... Priceless..... batting as a DH in the 3 hole.
Life is good.
cadDAD
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If you're interested in listening to your favorite MiLB team on the radio (Internet), try the following:
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/multimedia/audio.jsp
In the bottom of the first, OfcrKID drilled a linedrive to RF for the team's first hit of the season.... Priceless..... batting as a DH in the 3 hole.
Life is good.
cadDAD
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