Steroids in High school?

Was it random testing or is everyone subject to the same test? What rules does your state have regarding such use?

I don't beleive in kicking young kids who probably have no idea what harm they are causing their bodies to be prohibited from ever playing sports, but imposing suspensions, education and retests after the suspensions. Second time you get the boot.

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Originally posted by rain delay:
How many of you guys have had the issue of steroids being taken in your son's high school? Apparently, there is a Freshmen kid that looks like Popeye this year after lifting weights this past winter. The rumor is that someone requested a steroid test to be taken on this kid to see what is going on. People are saying that he flunked the test and the state athletic association has kicked him out of playing any sports for the remainder of his high school career in this state. I guess technically he could cross state lines and play for a private school in another state. The only concern I ever had with my son and steroids was the pounds of McDonald's chicken he ate and the growth hormones in that stuff.

rain delay, if you don't give out the link of that story, I can only assume that you fabricated the story. There's no way HS could do a steroids test on any kids. The law suit is waiting to happen if that's the case. And the kid has every right to refuse the test if he is singled out by the school.

I wouldnt say anyone fabricated something but it does sound half baked.

Links are helpful.

There is no mandatory banned substance testing at the high school level that I know of. Tests are voluntary and parents of the implicated can refuse testing without penalty.


Steroids happen in hs all the time. Until governing bodies crack down with enforced testing/sanctions it will never be any different.

A step in the right direction is that MLB teams may select up to 200 prospects to test this year at draft time.

Uh as someone who has dealt with the KHSAA - governing body of Kentucky HS sports - they do not have any type of testing or punishment in place for athletes. Secondly a test of this nature probably wouldn't happen on an individual student. Only way schools can test is if every kid who is part of any extracurricular activity at that school. That is sports, band, art, drama, theater etc... Third the only test I heard about by talking to other coaches dealt with drugs. Fourth drug testing is up to each individual school district.

Maybe the kid is doing steroids but based on what you provided it's not going to be any truth to that. You can look at the bylaws on www.khsaa.org/bylaws/ and see that they do not have any type of policy in regards to testing of any kind. So if they do not have a policy on testing then they cannot have a punishment if someone is busted. If a kid is caught through a drug test then it falls to the school and / or school district to handle the punishment.

It might be on the horizon but right now I don't think any school has a steroid test in the state of Kentucky. I can't say that for certain but from the people I know all over the state never heard of one.

Throwing a kid out of sports entirely for a steorids positive test is way too harsh. Kids busted for drugs are only out of sports for about a year and I think drugs are way worse than steroids.

Don't put any faith into this story.

Who administered the test?

Who requested that the young man be tested?

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Maybe the kid is doing steroids but based on what you provided it's not going to be any truth to that. You can look at the bylaws on www.khsaa.org/bylaws/ and see that they do not have any type of policy in regards to testing of any kind. So if they do not have a policy on testing then they cannot have a punishment if someone is busted. If a kid is caught through a drug test then it falls to the school and / or school district to handle the punishment.

Frankly, this is what I thought too. I didn't think KHSAA had anything in place and I didn't think an individual could single out any one person for a steroids test. However,to my understanding the kid in question is no longer allowed to participate in playing any sports of any kind for his high school. It may be a district thing or it may be because of other reasons. I really don't know the validity of the rumor. I was just wondering if other schools across the nation have rules in place for steroid testing in high schools.

If you do not know the validity of the "rumor" why are you posting this so called information?

I have to agree with the above.

It's rumor and speculation, that's why I asked those questions.

This the problem with the parents of today involved in sports----they are too concerned with what others are "supposedly" doing----you might want to start watching your own garden before you look for rotten tomatoes in someone elses.

The internet has allowed all the "rumor mongers" to prosper

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Originally posted by TRhit:
This the problem with the parents of today involved in sports----they are too concerned with what others are "supposedly" doing----you might want to start watching your own garden before you look for rooten tomatoes in someone elses.

The internet has allowed all the "rumor mongers" to prosper

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Originally posted by TRhit:
This the problem with the parents of today involved in sports----they are too concerned with what others are "supposedly" doing----you might want to start watching your own garden before you look for rotten tomatoes in someone elses.

The internet has allowed all the "rumor mongers" to prosper

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Originally posted by justbaseball:

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Originally posted by TRhit:
This the problem with the parents of today involved in sports----they are too concerned with what others are "supposedly" doing----you might want to start watching your own garden before you look for rooten tomatoes in someone elses.

The internet has allowed all the "rumor mongers" to prosper

Florida had mandatory testing last year 07'/08' and discontinued it this year due to two things 1) cost of program ($100,000 for 600 tests) & 2) they only had 1 positive test out of 600 students tested.

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Originally posted by rain delay:

Frankly, this is what I thought too. I didn't think KHSAA had anything in place and I didn't think an individual could single out any one person for a steroids test. However,to my understanding the kid in question is no longer allowed to participate in playing any sports of any kind for his high school. It may be a district thing or it may be because of other reasons. I really don't know the validity of the rumor. I was just wondering if other schools across the nation have rules in place for steroid testing in high schools.

Regardless of why this kid isn't playing ball, it's really not anyone's business. Rumors have no place in anyone's lives and most especially that of a teenager. If the story that you shared earlier on is circulating, I hope you will help lay it to rest since Coach shared the exact rules. Gossip can ruin a good baseball program for your own son and the team he plays for... not to mention the life of the young man in question.

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Originally posted by TPM:
Was it random testing or is everyone subject to the same test? What rules does your state have regarding such use?

I don't beleive in kicking young kids who probably have no idea what harm they are causing their bodies to be prohibited from ever playing sports, but imposing suspensions, education and retests after the suspensions. Second time you get the boot.

Some schools are starting programs to educate and prevent PED and other drug use.
At my son's school the parents must sign a release allowing the student to be tested in order to be involved in extracurricular activities or drive and park on school property. Below is a quote from the drug testing program. Failure to submit to the test will be the same as testing positive. The first offense is around 15 days suspension not your entire HS years.

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Random urine drug testing of public school interscholastic athletes is legal
determined by the United States Supreme Court in case of Vernonia School District 47j
(Oregon) vs. Wayne and Judy Action. Random urine drug tests of public schools extracurricular
activity students are legal as determined by Pottawatomie County Independent
School District #94 vs. Earls. The students subject to testing will be determined by the
**** school board. ******* School District reserves the right
to test any participant in extracurricular activities if there is a justified suspicion

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Originally posted by fsmjunior:
Florida had mandatory testing last year 07'/08' and discontinued it this year due to two things 1) cost of program ($100,000 for 600 tests) & 2) they only had 1 positive test out of 600 students tested.

This is why testing conducted by schools really isn't a good idea - it's not cost efficient. You pay a lot of money per test to see if someone is doing something illegal. Honestly that's a waste of money that could be spent on other things that are needed more.

Only way it's effective is if every testing period you catch about 60% or the people being tested. Of course the problem now is MUCH worse than wasting money on tests.

Besides if someone wants to challenge it in court they will probably win or the school will back down. See that happen before.

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If you do not know the validity of the "rumor" why are you posting this so called information?

TRhit

Because it is in the newspaper this week. It didn't metion the kid by name but did mention the high school and the steroids test. I'm looking for a link now.

Rumor or not I'm just trying to find out if any high school out there has steroids testing in place. The rumor is now apparently a fact if it is being reported in my newspaper. Of course you can't believe everything you read in the newspaper.

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Regardless of why this kid isn't playing ball, it's really not anyone's business. Rumors have no place in anyone's lives and most especially that of a teenager. If the story that you shared earlier on is circulating, I hope you will help lay it to rest since Coach shared the exact rules. Gossip can ruin a good baseball program for your own son and the team he plays for... not to mention the life of the young man in question.

It is not a rumor anymore if it is in the newspaper now is it.

What part of Kentucky are you in? Not looking for anything specific just geographical region.

Northern Kentucky Coach

rain delay - Hopefully you'll take this in a constructive manner.

When it comes to youth, HS or even college kids...we generally don't report any (negative) specifics on here. Sure, we can ask a question about a situation you're hearing about...but try and make it as anonymous as you can.

TRHit and I battle from time to time over different things, but we are in complete agreement when he said:

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...start watching your own garden before you look for rotten tomatoes in someone elses.

Personally, I don't want the link. I don't want rumors (which is all you had when you began this thread). One can simply ask about this issue with something like, "Have any of you ever heard of HS kids getting tested for steroids and what do you think about that?"

Period.

That was close to your first sentence of the thread. That was enough. It would have focused the entire discussion on an issue that may or may not be facing parents soon. And you wouldn't have had to defend yourself.

Think about the impact to a family...whether or not their son did something wrong...when you cite specifics.

Thank You!!!!!!!

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Let's try it this way.

Have any of you ever heard of HS kids getting tested for steroids and what do you think about that?"

rain delay

Why change the original post????

Pennsylvania looked into testing and decided it was too expensive. New Jersey was looking into random testing. I don't know if it happened.

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Originally posted by RJM:
Pennsylvania looked into testing and decided it was too expensive. New Jersey was looking into random testing. I don't know if it happened.

NJ has had random drug testing for a few years. It applies if the student and/or team qualifies for state tournaments.

The state of Florida put together a random steriod testing program for high school athletes in 2006. The cost was over $100,000. They tested thousands of athletes and got one positive test result. The program was canceled after one year. It turned out to be a bunch of malarkey and a big bruhaha about nothing.