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Son's HS team has gone from bad to worse, in League play we lost again by in town rival. So bad, I don't even like watching them. Scout was watching other kid from opposing team. I wonder what scout thought? Son is struggling as are all the others on team. Kids go into practice, coach rips into them, then excuses them. Word is no one likes this coach, including parents. This is the first team that has started from the freshman year under his tenure. Each year, the teams get weaker and play worse. My question is to the coaches out there, if a team has no confidence in their coach and themselves when is it time to make a change. I see a direct relationship to son's performance between his summer team and the HS team. Coach preached about the "Select teams" taking kids money, we tried his Legion team, no competition and why spend the summer with a coach your son don't like. I would love to save $$ and play local ball, maybe we should have.

Son would quit, but being his senior year, he knows the "baseball" powers that be would frown on it, and he knows he would be labeled a quitter. He has never been so upset with any of his coaches over the years, I was surprised he felt so strongly, first time he ever told me anything about his baseball life.

Should son "man up" and stand up to this guy, maybe he would respect him more, or as I suspect, take it and try harder and hope for the best?

Pop up Hitter Dad

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PUHD,

hey hows everything? were in Vaisalia for Easter tourney. Anyway season is going , arent going to change coach at this time.More importantly the players need to team together and get out of the negative mindset that losing can cause.
You yourself are saying its hard to watch, pump your son up to step up and be aleader. There is a saying that winning is a cheap perfume, and its really true. When a team is losing it can go from bad to worse.
Coaches get riled up at times, and it happens in college as well.Try and not talk about coach so much, about their losing. ask your son what he can do to make the team better. Only control what you can control , leave the rest alone, it will mkae you crazy.
I know its tough when everything is going wrong. its great that your son shared his feelings with you, I would grab onto that if its the only positive for the year.
Teams have bad seasons, coaching, chemistry, but its your sons season dont let anything try and ruin that. Good luck.
Sned me a PM sometime, well talk more. ill let you know a litle more about JC ball. God Bless
There are many types of coaches out there. On one side of the spectrum are the coaches everyone likes-a players-coach. These coaches usually get along with everyone and have a good relationship with players and parents. They are not always the best coaches but people tend to like them. But then again, there are these types of coaches who are great.
Then on the other side are the coaches everyone cannot stand. With these coaches the team usually comes together to hate the coach. It sounds like it doesn't make sense, but it does. The team needs to band together to overcome this bad coach.
Your son should talk to the other players and try to make the best out of the situation. Obviously being his senior year, he cannot do much. However, he can continue to work hard,along with his teammates, and maybe end up winning more games and becoming more of a team.
When teams win, the coach is good, when they lose the coach is bad and no one likes him.

It may very well be that he is not a good coach, too late to think of quitting now.

When things aren't going right, Fan is correct, coaches seem to get uptight, the team gets uptight, FYI, if he wants to play beyound HS, it happens at every level.

Everyone has a responsibility, can't always point the finger towards the coach. What has the individual player done to improve himself in the game, extra time in the cages, hitting, pitching lessons? Has off season conditioning ceased? Does the team practice on their own? And parents being vocal about their feelings can make it that much worse.
Quitting means one only cares about what's good for you, if your son feels the way he does, he needs to provide leadership for those below him. Sometimes the team all working on the same page can turn things around, even without good coaching.
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Originally posted by Pop Up Hitter dad:
Son would quit, but being his senior year, he knows the "baseball" powers that be would frown on it, and he knows he would be labeled a quitter.


Just a thought. If HS baseball is for fun and this has turned to c***. If he's already made a decision and is afforded the opportunity to play in college. Would he not be better served to use the time spent practicing and playing HS games to get in supurb condition and prepare himself for summer ball and the physical demands a college program would impose?
PUHD, Sorry to hear it is going so badly. I hope things turn around quickly, more likely they will not. We've experienced some of the same issues, almost in the same fashion. It's a tough spot to be in. Coaching and game situations, playing time, team unity, etc. Lil' Pops gotta handle. But, if it turns to a coach's behavior, that's a different issue.

I hope you guys can salvage something!! Good luck... GED10DaD
My son went thru that when he played and the echoes didn't just come from one player or only players that sat. It came from all the players and from different years. Parents heard the things players were talking about. Whether they played, rode the bench. There were at least one or two seniors quitting every year. Some were starters others were reserves. It didn't matter.

To my son's credit, he hung in there despite a tough environment which sapped the fun out of the game for most players, with some players feeling the pressure on the field trying not to mess up as opposed to just playing the game. He just blocked it out when he played and stayed focused on the game. He also worked hard in practice (he's always liked intense practices that covered everything because he didn't want to be caught unprepared in a situation) and always came prepared to play. He played carefree and none of that stuff got to him which probably explains why he played well under pressure. Plus he never quit before so he wasn't about to walk away from it in his senior year. Especially since the coaching staff finally figured out he was a good ballplayer and had a direct impact on all of their wins. He, himself didn't have any problems with the coaches because he was a no-nonsense player but it was tough for some players for whatever reason.

IMO, just because it's high school baseball don't mean it can't be fun. It's not like there weren't any good players that came into the program. Most of these players experienced sucess at other levels, so they knew how to win. However, the overall theme was it wasn't fun.

It can be tough and if it points back to the HC, there's not much you can do other than go out and play your game.
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Zombywolf, team has been on spring break this week and after chewing out, they got together several times to hang together. Yesterday they got some good tonic, a team weaker than they are and a much needed 10 to 1 victory. At least one of the three teams in our league we can win against. The test tomorrow will come against the stronger team in league. Hopefully we can at least compete this time.

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