Couple of videos up on Youtube. Meh. One hitting from the outfield view and one from the side view. Also, can see the throws from the outfield. It's not good. I'm not a scout or have any experience evaluating talent. But, it's not good. I would definitely want this guy on my slowpitch team.
He's a good looking guy with a great college football resume. And he's inspirational and a good guy. He should stick to SEC Network. Or become an H-back/fullback/tight end in the NFL.
The envelop please.
And the most desperate team in MLB baseball appears to be ....
.... drum roll please
.... The Atlanta Braves
He'll look like the Hulk next to those fresh out of high school kids in Danville, VA next summer.
He'll also give them someone to look up to, will provide a good positive influence upon the team and will be able to model dedication, humility, persistence and the over-all value of working hard, having goals and challenging the odds as well as the nay-sayers. All key intangibles for aspiring big leaguers. Braves end up the winners by inviting him into their clubhouse.
uuhhh, not a "nay-sayer", but just feeling an old illness coming back.
Teaching Elder posted:He'll also give them someone to look up to, will provide a good positive influence upon the team and will be able to model dedication, humility, persistence and the over-all value of working hard, having goals and challenging the odds as well as the nay-sayers. All key intangibles for aspiring big leaguers. Braves end up the winners by inviting him into their clubhouse.
Or he'll foster animosity that he's getting all the attention despite not being as good (or as dedicated) at baseball as them and that he's taking a roster spot that should be going to someone with a potential baseball future (or that he's taken the spot of someone they knew and liked).
That's not idle speculation, many of Jordan's baseball teammates were reported to feel similarly back in the day, in spite of his financial generosity towards the team (as I recall, he wasn't interested in travelling in MiLB style, so he anted up for better transportation for the team).
I am a TT fan. I don't get whether this is a publicity stunt on his part, or just goes to show you how desperate teams are to sell tickets. Always remember folks, this business is all about business.
The season is just about over for milb teams. So I am assuming he has to go through spring training next year to make a roster. He will be 30, which means he has to make a AAA roster, which means he will be taking someone else's spot who has worked years to get there.
Mind boggling.
He did. He bought them a nice bus.
If they felt that way, then they should have looked in the mirror. Most of them were just roster fillers as well. Jordan took the place of absolutely zero true prospects.
Baseball players are notoriously arrogant, petty and disparaging of others. Those guys needed to get some perspective.
Teaching Elder posted:He did. He bought them a nice bus.
If they felt that way, then they should have looked in the mirror. Most of them were just roster fillers as well. Jordan took the place of absolutely zero true prospects.
Baseball players are notoriously arrogant, petty and disparaging of others. Those guys needed to get some perspective.
This may well be true. Having Tebow taking up a likely undeserved roster spot isn't going to make that problem better.
Very few of them "Deserve" a roster spot. That's why they get paid $1500/month. Almost all are expendable crew members who will get killed when they teleport down to the planet to check things out.
Teaching Elder posted:Very few of them "Deserve" a roster spot. That's why they get paid $1500/month. Almost all are expendable crew members who will get killed when they teleport down to the planet to check things out.
I was talking AAA and most of them makevptwtty good mobey being former MLB guys.
And yes, there is always some type of resentment when this happens.
Is there some rule saying that 30 year olds must be on a AAA roster?
I disagree with a lot of the people in baseball that are against what Tebow is trying to do.
He is a Heismann Trophy winner and arguably one of the most "famous" football players ever. Many say that if he would have switched positions he would still be in the NFL.
How many other people can create this much attention for the game of baseball? I really don't care if he makes it or not, that will be up to him and whoever gives him the opportunity. Tebow must have more than a million football fans and it would be great if he plays baseball, but most important is that he is out there showing people he "wants" to play baseball.
Most baseball fans don't know much about first round picks and prospects. But pretty much everyone knows who Tim Tebow is! Baseball people should thank him for showing so much interest and bringing so much attention to the game we love.
Teaching Elder posted:Is there some rule saying that 30 year olds must be on a AAA roster?
Why not look up a minor AAA league roster and do the homework yourself.
While I am a fan of TT, I dont agree with Jerrys post. How many football fans are going to follow milb baseball because thats where he is going to start, not on a ML roster.
In spring training Tebow will get more attention than established players and top prospects. That's going to piss off a lot of ball players. About a week after being assigned to a minor league team he will be forgotten news except on ESPN. Every time Tebow hits a homer or drives in a run he will be on ESPN. They use Tebow for ratings.
I'm guessing he starts the season in low full season A. But there will be an expectation to be AAA ready by the end of the season. If he's not in AAA next spring with an expected call up by July 1 it's all a waste of time given his age.
He would have been better off trying to comeback as a knuckleballer. They're just getting started in their 30's. They pitch into their 40's.
TPM posted:I am a TT fan. I don't get whether this is a publicity stunt on his part, or just goes to show you how desperate teams are to sell tickets. Always remember folks, this business is all about business.
The season is just about over for milb teams. So I am assuming he has to go through spring training next year to make a roster. He will be 30, which means he has to make a AAA roster, which means he will be taking someone else's spot who has worked years to get there.
Mind boggling.
Many of the best baseball players in MLB are not recognizable by the casual fan. If Adidas wants to promote their line of baseball gear, or football gear too, or crossfit gear or whatever, Tebow is more recognizable that most anyone currently playing.
Let's say there's a cutout figure in Dick's Sporting goods of Altuve and another of Tebow. Whether he makes it or not, who will most people recognize?
TPM posted:Teaching Elder posted:Is there some rule saying that 30 year olds must be on a AAA roster?
Why not look up a minor AAA league roster and do the homework yourself.
While I am a fan of TT, I dont agree with Jerrys post. How many football fans are going to follow milb baseball because thats where he is going to start, not on a ML roster.
I'm not trying to be snarky. I have never heard of such a rule. If it exists I'd like to know.
I would assume he would start out at low A or Rookie ball just like most others. He would get a chance to move up as he performed appropriately at various levels. He won't get a chance to hold back any true prospects, and won't be gifted the show any more than MJ was. He is very little different than the scads of late round guys that get taken each year on the off chance that maybe they might pan-out only to end up getting let go within two years. The fact is, if a players doesn't go in the top 2 rounds, they are likely roster fillers and won't make it. Yet they hang on, sometimes for years, much to the chagrin of their parents and significant others who wish they'd get a real job.
If Tebow wants to while his time away in the minor leagues, he's good enough to do it. Go ahead, be my guest. He absolutely will NOT be keeping any true prospects out of the league anymore than another late rounder.
I just think it is great that Tebow is big news these days and it is because of baseball. In some ways he is the biggest story in baseball the last few weeks. The same thing would happen if he decided to be a stock car driver. This is a Heismann Trophy winner wanting to play baseball. I like it when baseball is the biggest story out there. And just like Michael Jordan it says a lot about the game, that these type guys want to play baseball.
He can either do it or he can't. If he can't do it, he will be out of the game. I don't think he can do it. But what on earth is wrong with him trying. I'm hoping it is more than just a publicity stunt, don't think he needs the publicity.
As far as pissing off teammates, I actually know a guy that was on Jordan's baseball team. He loved it! Big crowds, luxury bus, lots of fun, etc. Jordan drew so much interest that the rest of the team was very relaxed.
I know everyone doesn't share my opinion and that is OK, too.
Teaching Elder posted:Is there some rule saying that 30 year olds must be on a AAA roster?
It's kind of an unwritten rule of development once 27 and in AA it's, " See ya, enjoy the rest of your life."
I know the Seadogs (Red Sox AA) have a 27 year old. But they had huge holes in their roster, a second consecutive last place season and decreasing crowds. Tavares hit .335. He was needed. He was actually sent down from AAA when there wasn't room for him.. He's a career AAAA player at best.
AAAA - A lifer AAA player who goes up and down from AAA with occasional two week roster filler stints in MLB when someone hits the DL. He gets released every couple of years. But he always finds a new AAA home until he's in his 30's. Then they go home or become MiLB coaches.
Teaching Elder posted:TPM posted:Teaching Elder posted:Is there some rule saying that 30 year olds must be on a AAA roster?
Why not look up a minor AAA league roster and do the homework yourself.
While I am a fan of TT, I dont agree with Jerrys post. How many football fans are going to follow milb baseball because thats where he is going to start, not on a ML roster.
I'm not trying to be snarky. I have never heard of such a rule. If it exists I'd like to know.
I would assume he would start out at low A or Rookie ball just like most others. He would get a chance to move up as he performed appropriately at various levels. He won't get a chance to hold back any true prospects, and won't be gifted the show any more than MJ was. He is very little different than the scads of late round guys that get taken each year on the off chance that maybe they might pan-out only to end up getting let go within two years. The fact is, if a players doesn't go in the top 2 rounds, they are likely roster fillers and won't make it. Yet they hang on, sometimes for years, much to the chagrin of their parents and significant others who wish they'd get a real job.
If Tebow wants to while his time away in the minor leagues, he's good enough to do it. Go ahead, be my guest. He absolutely will NOT be keeping any true prospects out of the league anymore than another late rounder.
Where did I say it was a rule. The milb system is based on age. 30 year olds are not found in low A or rookie ball. He is not a draft prospect he is a free agent never played the pro game.
Why would he do that?
Where do you get info from that anyone past the second round is just a roster filler.
Did you see his swing?
